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I am putting a budget car for the boy. Using a 72 Dart 727 manual valve body 2500 b&m converter with 355 rear gear. The power plant is a +40 318 fresh stock lower end. I am trying to decide if I am going to use 360 Heads or a set of 273 closed chamber heads. The cam is the Summit 450 lift and intake is a sp2p with an eddy 600.
I am trying to build something that will run respectable. The 360 heads will drop compression but the 273 heads are restrictive.
Any advice????
 
Here's what I think.........

Use the 273 heads (other opinions will differ), up grade the valves to 1.88 intake, 1.6 exhaust, cut them .030 to reduce the chamber volume, loose the sp2p, there is a member on here with a Holley Street Dominator intake for sale, BUY IT! Not familiar with the cam but it's lift range will work well with the rest of your combination.

Good luck, have fun.

Rumblefish has the intake for sale..........
 
With the SP2P i'd use the 273 heads, the intake has small runners and will be a bottleneck on the 360 heads. Why not do a little clean up porting on the 273 heads and a good valve job. It will run nicely. With a better intake the 360's will work. Check out 318willrun, he did a nice article on small block head porting.
 
Thx. Was just watching that video. I know the sp2p is restrictive. I do here a cast iron 4 bbl intake but a little concerned about the port mis-match.
 
If you have an iron intake, I'd run that instead of the sp2p, the port mis-match isn't that big of a deal.
 
The 273 heads are most likely the exact same head that was on your 318 from the factory. Valve size won't matter much unless you're looking for a 500 hp 318, which you aren't. 318's just don't move that much air.
 
Any motor will benefit from a bowl cleanup and a port match. I'd use the 273 heads and remove the factory ridges that are cast into the bowl area, you don't have to go crazy, just smooth them out to be flush with the rest of the surfaces in the bowl area. I also gasket match the intake/exhaust ports and smooth everything in following the factory contours. Besides the cost of buying a cheap electric die grinder from someplace like Harbor Freight, this is free horsepower. Also use the thin Mopar composite head gasket to get optimal quench with your factory type pistons. Unless the valves are in bad shape, I'd stick with the factory valves for cost and performance reasons. You get better flow with the bigger valves (assuming you bowl port to remove the flow restriction), but your motor build will likely not notice the valve size difference. I'd stay away from the SP2P, too restrictive, find a good aluminum dual plane at a swap meet, or use your factory 4 barrel manifold. 318s aren't the baby engines everybody labels them as, it's only 9 CID smaller than a 327 Chevy motor, and those motors came factory with 2.02 valves, solid lifter cams, etc. Try to get compression in the motor and let it breathe. I built my last 318 just like any other motor I've done (cam, ported heads, etc.), and it ran VERY strong, bottom end up to 5500.
 
Why not use the 318 head the motor came with ( if it has heads). Maybe add 1.88 intake valves and do a bowl blend, look for a sb cast iron 4 bbl intake and the smaller t-quad. Cheap and effective.
 
Use the 273 heads. I actually ran a 340 temporarily with 273 heads back in the day. The motor was very strong. If you can find an old Eddy LD4B manifold then port match it and the head port opening. Should be a strong runner.
 
How far down in the hole are the pistons?
That in itself is a big factor in the head I would use.

The sp2p is a mileage master intake developed during the gas crunch of the '70's.
The stock intake is very good.

If the Pistons are not to far down, the 360 heads would be better. But do remember that a better flowing head is better than one with more compression. You will still make better power with better flowing heads than the closed chambered heads.

To get the 273 heads to flow as well as the 360 heads, you'll need to spend money on Geiger valves and porting. Cheaper to use the 360 heads.
 
the reason that I asked the question to start with was the 273 heads are closed chamber. I have never used this head on a build before and wanted to see what the consensus was v.s. the 360 head.

I have run a 1974 318, stock piston, stock bore with a set of 360 heads with a .484. 284 MP cam shaft before. With Headers and a 650 DP ran pretty good, went 13.30 in a duster with 4:10 gear. I could shift it at 6500 all day and it ran really strong on the high end.


I have a selection of heads ready to use. They are all on the shelf.

Heads:
273, closed chamber
318, stock configuration
360, 1.88 valves

Intakes:
Eddy SP2P
Stock Cast 360 Intake
M1 Single Plane


Was just looking to see what the benefits or draw back would be with that combination. I am looking for something to run in the mid 14 second range.
 
the reason that I asked the question to start with was the 273 heads are closed chamber. I have never used this head on a build before and wanted to see what the consensus was v.s. the 360 head.

I have run a 1974 318, stock piston, stock bore with a set of 360 heads with a .484. 284 MP cam shaft before. With Headers and a 650 DP ran pretty good, went 13.30 in a duster with 4:10 gear. I could shift it at 6500 all day and it ran really strong on the high end.


I have a selection of heads ready to use. They are all on the shelf.

Heads:
273, closed chamber
318, stock configuration
360, 1.88 valves


Intakes:
Eddy SP2P
Stock Cast 360 Intake
M1 Single Plane


Was just looking to see what the benefits or draw back would be with that combination. I am looking for something to run in the mid 14 second range.


The 360 heads have a much larger exhaust port which should help, especially at the higher RPMs. Of course the intake ports are also larger but the larger exhaust port would be a big advantage over the 273/318. Also some valve designs decrease combustion chamber CCs.
Use the thinnest head gasket you can buy.
Treblig
 

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