i really liek the tti headers i have the 1 3/4 on my duster with the 400 and the 2" on my dart with the 431. the 2" headers are not made to work with a low deck with stock heads. i moved one or 2 tubes on one header and had to do a little hammering to clear the bellhousing and block flange on the other side. no big deal, but these were pretty old headers that were never used i think they might have changed them as the same time i was fitting them to another car, another guy was also trying to get his to work with a low deck, all he had to do was shim the engine up and ding for the bellhousing flange. my driverside ran right into the starter something was definitely different. i havent had to try with the 2" headers but the 1 3/4 i was able to get the mini starter out with only removing the steering column. the 1 3/4 im using on my duste ri bought them back in 2000 with just the nickle plating, they didnt look beautiful, but they held up great for 10 years old when i removed them and had them ceramic coated black. expensive headers but good stuff. the schumachers are nice too, but the primary tubes are small for any kind of stroker. still better than manifolds though.