I Think I’m Getting Old

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  1. mpgmike

    mpgmike Well-Known Member

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    I remember a time when I would look at a 1972 Dart & claim, “It ain’t worth much. If it were a ’70 or ’71, I’d give you $250. Since it’s a ’72, I’ll give you $75.” And the seller would agree! I remember buying a ’74 Duster with a fold-down rear seat for $125, thinking I paid way too much…but I wanted that fold-down rear seat for my ’71 Demon.

    At one time I owned 2 ’70 Dusters — Gold Dusters; one with a turbo, and a second with a built /6. I didn’t pay squat for either, because they were everywhere. Now, fricken Neons are “Classic” and commanding stupid prices! Cars I once considered parts cars are now demanding several thousands of dollars!

    What happened, and when?!? I bought a ’73 Road Runner; 400-P Code/4-speed for $650. I got a ’72 Satellite with the P-Code 400/727 for $650 with virtually no rust. I remember when a 318 was worth more than a /6, and a 340 was worth the most (A Bodies). I look at Craigslist and /6 cars are listed at prices above what I used to consider fair for a 340 car — and they’re 4-doors to boot!!

    Apparently collector prices have driven me out of the hobby. I sold my ’70 Duster, ’71 Demon, ’73 Road Runner, and ’65 Imperial around 2001 when I lost my son (and went crazy/suicidal/homicidal). I got $450 for the Duster & Demon (as a package deal, with numerous spare parts), $2200 for the Road Runner (400 4-speed with full vinyl top), and $2500 for the 21k mile ’65 Imperial. Now if I’m lucky, double the price I sold it for and I could possibly buy something worth 1/4 value of what I sold back then.

    Here on FABO we have 2 types of enthusiasts; those that lucked out and bought their pride ride way back when for a reasonable price, and those the antied up and paid (what I consider way too much) recent asking prices. Decades ago I would “fix up” on old A-Body using junk yard parts, with a few special pieces sourced from the dealer, or even the local auto parts house. Now folks working on the same cars buy from restoration suppliers and pay many times what I did for comparable parts (way back then).

    I guess I’m having a tough time wrapping my head around a $6k /6 Barracuda that needs floors and a trunk, plus rear quarters, with a ragged interior. I parted out a few cars that got crushed; as have many other folks in years gone by. These cars are no longer available for sale. As us older geezers parted out less desirable cars (even thou they may have been in stellar condition), similar cars are now being sold for what once would have been stupid prices.

    AM I HAVING A MID-LIFE CRISIS?? (Speaking from a Mopar hobiest point of view.)

    [Post Script: I’m 54 years old, owned about 30 A-Bodies, 10 B-bodies and a half dozen C-Bodies over the years. A few years after losing my son, I started buying FWD Turbo Dodges; Daytonas & such. They still haven’t reached the value 1970 +/- cars did at the same age.]

    This thread is officially open for discussion -- old geezer opinions appreciated!
     
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    • Valiant63

      Valiant63 Early A-body Valiants

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      I hear you and feel your pain. I am also 54 years old and have bought some Valiants and barracudas for $500 or less and they were running driving cars and if anything was over 1000 or $2000 it better have a big block in it or at least a good running 340. I see some people selling these early eat bodies for 10 and $20,000 and I can’t believe they’re really worth that much.
       
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      • WTruo

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        No, your right. Prices have been steadily on the rise even for what's considered junk.

        I think most of it has to do with it being a trend at the moment.

        My dad usto tell me stories about how he and his brothers would go buy a car from a salvage yard for a couple hundred bucks when they were in a pinch for one. He said they were in great condition and usually only needed a tune up or tires. Hell my dad bought my uncle a catalina that he still has today from a salvage yard. Me and my cousin usto call it the batmobile growing up.
         
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        • 67Dart273

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          What is absolutely amazing to me is that price (around here, and evidently) have gone through the roof on MANY "old things" not limited to Mopars, but including old outboards, boats, you name it. Here we are people are out of work you would thing prices would be in the toilet
           
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          • eekvonzipper

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            I Totally Agree with you...
            I paid $4000.00 for a rough '65 barracuda this summer. (Bucket-List Car) I'm 50 now, couldn't wait any longer...

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            • dartfreak75

              dartfreak75 Restore it, Dont part it! FABO Gold Member

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              I hear you brother. I am not old yet, but I missed all the deals yall got in the 80s and 90s on all these classics but I remember in the early 2000s when I was in my teens and early 20s the later 70s less desirable cars like the 73-76 darts dusters chargers and larger c bodies was 250-500 bucks. Now they are 3k and up just for scrap! I saw a literal shell of a 68 barracuda today on marketplace for 10k! No joke! And it wasn't even a good shell it was rusty and dinted all to hell!
               
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              • kursplat

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                1st 69' 340 swinger, bone stock and complete with one little dent in the left quarter, bought in 1982. $300.
                 
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                  Me and a buddy were just talking about how when we got out of high school a good shortbed c10 was 2k maybe 3. Now guys are getting 15-20k. :wtf: Like was said above this is happening to everything from old tractors, boats, antiques of all kinds, and furniture. I am 38 and a pessimist but I truly believe it's because people know that the way things were, were as good as things were ever going to be. Of course not as efficient, or quiet, but on the scale of simplicity and just joy to use. Just the feeling old stuff gives you of touching another time, a better time. The worse the world gets the more people are willing to pay to remember it how it was. Just my opinion.
                   
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                  • missing linc

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                    I'm 57 years old, have owned close to 140 cars, trucks, and motorcycles since the age of 15. I too bought plenty of cars for $100.00 or less, did some trades, and of course parted out and crushed a few cars along the way. I bought a 1970 Dart Custom, 2 door, 318/904, complete, not running for $70.00 in 1991. I had it on the road in 3 weeks, using parts sourced form local wrecking yards, then over the next several years I amassed lots of parts to do a full restomod/restoration on it. Kept that car for 20 years, had a ton of fun with it before selling it. I got a good price for it, but sometimes I wonder why I didn't keep it.
                    I also bought a 74 Dart Sport 360, triple black car, complete, running and drivable, but with a 318 instead of the 360 for $800.00 around 1997, and traded a couple other cars that I had $150.00 invested in for another triple black Dart Sport 360 that had a rebuilt motor, but no interior. That one was a parts car because of severe rust issues.
                    I've never owned an E body, could never afford one, but I once bought a 66 New Yorker for $50.00.
                    Edit: My first car was a 67 Charger, bought for $ 800.00 in 1978, sold for $1000.00 in 1979. The only B body I've ever had, was 15 years old, didn't have a driver's license yet.
                    I currently have another Dart Sport, this one is a 75, it was originally a /6 car, but had a seized 360 when I got it, paid $800.00 for this one, figured I got a decent buy, it needed a lot of work, I've had it for almost 2 years, got it running this summer, but still need to do a lot of work before it will be reliable, and it will never be a painted show car, just a ratty muscle car, that was always my intention with this one.
                    I find that the older I get, the less motivation I have.
                    I also have a 1976 Pontiac Ventura, 38k mile original survivor car, it spends around 350 days a year in the garage, (can only drive one at a time).
                    I keep an eye on what asking prices are regularly, and most of what I see is out of my price range. Once in a while I look at late model Challengers, but the $$$ are always too high IMO.
                     
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                    • missing linc

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                      Best friend bought a really clean 69 Dart GTS roller in 1980 or 81 for 2 or 3 hundred bucks.
                       
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                      • WTruo

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                        Same, I remember shortbeds selling for a couple grand but nowhere near 5k. Now their closer to 10k.
                         
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                        • Northern Grit

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                          I've yet to pay more than $800 for an A body and now I see rusted out rollers with no engine or trans sell for a grand all the time.
                           
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                          • Dartsun

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                            I bought my first car in 1999 a 1969 Dart custom blown slant still drove. 225$ and it still has the original quarter panels little rust. Needed a door and some roof dents fixed. Back then it seemed expensive I was working at McDonalds.
                             
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                              IDK, prices seem to be down right now (of course, since I've got a '26 Dodge coupe I need to unload) - talked to a guy who builds Kustoms, and he says he's been picking up cars left and right for $800 (mid 50s long roofs, etc.) - maybe it's just muscle car era cars that are expensive now?
                               
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                              • RustyRatRod

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                                It ain't 1940 anymore. Get in the 21st century. A gallon of name brand milk is 5 bucks in some places. It is what it is. I was just talkin to a friend tonight. We used to buy, sell repair all kinds of cars when we were in school in the early 80s. Even then we could still get a decent car that we could drive home for 100 bucks. I mean Chevelles, Novas, Dusters, Darts, Demons....you name it. Times change brother. Not much you can do.
                                 
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                                • 44070dart

                                  44070dart How the hell did I get this old

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                                  I look at parts/cars all the time,even if I'm not buying, and see prices are up there. I don't think there will be a drop until the baby boomer generation is under ground. :eek:I'm thinking we are buying up the available stock as bucket list purchases, although we may not be thinking that, but it's coming down to the wire so why not. I just turned 71 and I'm healthy enough to enjoy my car but, who knows what's around the corner. :( We keep prices up when we buy stock a-bodies for 15k when we wouldn't have paid 10k for 5 years ago. That's good and bad depending on if you have one or want one. There are good buys out there, but fewer than a decade ago. The market, in spite of the problems in this country, is strong from what I see.
                                   
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                                  • halifaxhops

                                    halifaxhops It's going to get stupid around here! FABO Gold Member

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                                    record.jpg I have noticed parts prices almost double over the last year also.
                                     
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                                      I think back: to what I paid for a new pickup in '68, '76 and '95, only new vehicles I have ever owned. That '95 is now 2 years old!!!!!!! It better last me till I die!
                                      I think back to what I made sacking groceries in HS in '64,5, and 6. What I made getting out of college with an Ag degree in '70, what I made all along in my life. What we live on today and what everything costs.
                                      What I paid for GOOD 60's Mopars in the 80's and beyond. What any cost today.
                                      What everything has cost along the way everything. Bought a Rain X wiper other day, broke first time I turned it on! What it cost???? IF I had paid $! for it, would have been $1 too much!!!??
                                       
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                                      I think these high and ridiculous prices started when the TV auctions started getting popular. I've read several ads for mediocre cars reference some high-priced Barratt-Jackson high dollar restomod and they say, just like the one that sold for $$$XXX! And of course was nowhere near.

                                      Prices are coming down some because they can't have a tent-full of drunks with too much money assembled, and also no place for the shillers to hide.
                                       
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                                        I think A-Bodies are now hitting their stride. All the guys, like us, in their 50's and 60's rode around in A-bodies. They brought Chrysler back in sales, and everybody had one in their family-economy cars handed down to one another. First cars for many people. So as we go back looking for a memory, Dusters, Darts, Swingers were all part of our history. I have watched demand and value go up on Dusters for sure.
                                         
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                                        I got my last duster in 2010. It had 36975 original miles on it. Now it has 40995 miles. This year it never even made a mile. The wife keep joking that I’m saving it for someone else. Kim
                                         
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                                        • AJ/FormS

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                                          8 bucksCan here and a gallon is 3.78liters so about same as your 128oz gallon. A 2-liter coke is as high as 3.70C, but sometimes on sale for half that.

                                          When I got married we used to buy bread for 5 loaves for a dollar in the mid70s, now it costs me that for just one loaf. Five bucks/20cents is a 250% increase. Wages do not compare.
                                          Dad bought a brand new 1040 sq ft bungalow with unfinished basement in 1966 for $13,000, in a nice suburb. I bet that house would sell for 300K now. He bought a brand spanking new 72 Nova for around 3K. I think in 72 my wages were around $1.35/hr, pumping gas.
                                          1972 was 48 years ago for me.
                                           
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                                          • RustyRatRod

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                                            Yeah things just aren't the same. They never will be, so you may as well get used to it.
                                             
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                                              Its the economy, wages are higher, and alot of the old cars were junked when scrap prices went thru the roof.
                                              You cannot find an old car in the junkyards around here, because the owners of the junkyards, have crushed them. No need to keep a car that you might sell one part off in a year, vs a late model car that is nearly picked clean after a couple of weeks.
                                               
                                            • missing linc

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                                              I don't think wages/income have kept up with increased cost of living, that's what makes the difference IMO. In 1996 I made $10/hr, where today I make $24.65/hr. My paycheck doesn't go anywhere near as far as it used to.
                                               
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