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Has anyone delt with these before?
I have about 100 foot between house and shop and need good service in the metal shop.
This should help with phone service as well.
At the current moment nothing works in there as far as cell service.

If anybody has first hand experience with this, I would love to here what you know and maybe what system you are using and if you are happy with it.

Thank you in advance FABO. :thumbsup:
 
Is your shop metal!?

If so you have a Faraday cage of sorts. Not a lot can help with that.

Can you run a hard wire to your shop?


There are cell phone repeaters, but pricy.

Wifi repeaters too, not as pricy.

Good luck to you
 
Dana67Dart said:
Is your shop metal!?

If so you have a Faraday cage of sorts. Not a lot can help with that.

Can you run a hard wire to your shop?


There are cell phone repeaters, but pricy.

Wifi repeaters too, not as pricy.

Good luck to you
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I ran cable and electrical wiring in CVC pipe under ground from my garage to my shed. It works great for me. Not the answer your looking for I guess. But… it's reliable. Lol :)
 
Network cable (Ethernet cat 5/6) is good for about 300’ before attenuation. If not too big of a hassle, running a network cable from house to shop with a network switch or wifi router on the shop side would give you the best performance.
 
For cellular you can look at "in home repeaters". Cost of about $200 - $300. Has an external antenna, (usually a directional antenna or yagi) and a rebroadcaster inside the structure. Register the system on one of the cell providers websites. Be sure to select a solution that matches the frequency bands used by your cell provider. Also, understand the location of your servicing cell tower

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Used a cell rebroadcaster on a steel roofed cabin with success.

Other, non-hardwire connectivity could use a Wifi Repeater from the house but challenge with the steel structure.

Good luck
 
When I get home my phone automatically connects to our wifi. The shop(wood stick/vinyl) is approximately 70' from house. We upgraded our router last year so it reached the shop better. Internet/data is great, sometimes it works better if I open the man door to help with signal.
90% of my postings here are from the shop. Dunno if that helps?
With the addition comes satellite lol

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I get Wifi internet at my self make Park at the outdoor geen picnic table, from the Cradlepoint Wifi Router sitting at the living room South window. 300 feet away over wifi.

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Below is a table showing the loss of Wi-Fi signal efficiency as it passes through different environments. Values (not absolute but approximate) are given for a wireless network operating in the 2.4 GHz frequency band.

ObstacleAdditional losses (dB)Effective distance*
Open space0100%
Window without tinting (no metalized coating)370%
Window with tinting (metalized coating)5-850%
Wooden wall1030%
Interior wall (15.2 cm)15-2015%
Bearing wall (30.5 cm)20-2510%
Concrete floor/ceiling15-2510-15%
Monolithic reinforced concrete slab20-2510%
* Effective distance — means how much the Wi-Fi signal range will be reduced after passing the corresponding obstacle compared to the open space.


Taken from help.keenetic.com
 
This Cradlepoint MBR1000 router has the ability to push the fiber optic internet feed out to 300 ft.

For some reason other routers can't can't push the Fiber Optics feed.

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There are some good used ones on ebay for cheep too. I use them.

I have an underground ethernet cable from the house, that feeds the Cradlepoint Wifi router in the shop. 125 feet away under ground.
 
Also try to avoid 5 GHZ, It has problems passing through walls @ distance. The 2.4 GHZ handles this much better.
 
I used a Wi-Fi repeater that piggy-backs on a dedicated power circuit to my pool-house. This is about 75 feet away, but it should go much further.
 
There is also a 120v Ethernet adapters.


You plug one into a power source in your house near your router.

Plug the other in your shop.

The one by your router you plug an Ethernet cable into and then into your router.

The one in your shop you plug a wifi router into it.


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Thank you for all the responses,
I have fiber internet to a router in the center of my home and it is all ran through conduit that I installed before spray foam during construction.
My shop is all steel. What I was thinking about is called an interent bridge that I believe would be mounted on an eave or something on the house and powered by a cat5 from router in the house then go wireless to another unit on the exterior of the shop that would I think go to another router inside the shop.

I was thinking something like this.

Amazon product ASIN B07F821KRW
 
WV64Signet said:
For cellular you can look at "in home repeaters". Cost of about $200 - $300. Has an external antenna, (usually a directional antenna or yagi) and a rebroadcaster inside the structure. Register the system on one of the cell providers websites. Be sure to select a solution that matches the frequency bands used by your cell provider. Also, understand the location of your servicing cell tower

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Used a cell rebroadcaster on a steel roofed cabin with success.

Other, non-hardwire connectivity could use a Wifi Repeater from the house but challenge with the steel structure.

Good luck
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I used this at our hunting cabin in the Ozarks and went from one bar dropping calls to streaming movies all via ATT wireless.
 
dowboy1970 said:
I was thinking something like this
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That would work well. They claim 300mbps which is most likely fast enough for internet browsing and even watching movies

If you can get higher speed and more throughput the better.

The 120v adapters I noted work the same way except it's wired through your ac system
 
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Dana67Dart said:
That would work well. They claim 300mbps which is most likely fast enough for internet browsing and even watching movies

If you can get higher speed and more throughput the better.

The 120v adapters I noted work the same way except it's wired through your ac system
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I still have not ruled out pulling a cat5 across the yard.
It is so dang rocky it looks like a battle field when you start digging.
 
Dana67Dart said:
Did you run underground power or is it overhead.
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700 foot in the air then underground 20 foot to 400amp service meter.
200 amp from disconnect to shop underground one direction.
200 amp the other direction from disconnect to house.
All underground.
There is no way to get a fish through there.
 
I was thinking pre disturbed earth easier digging, but 400 feet of digging no thanks.

I would try the 120v and the wireless.

Buy both from Amazon, easy return if your not happy with the results.
 
My shop is about 85 ft from my house. I bought a KUWFI bridge setup off Ebay and ran a cable to the end of my house in the attic and mounted the transmitter under the peak of my house. I put the receiver on the shop and ran a cable to a router I picked up at a garage sale. It works great. I control my shop heat, have a switch for my air compressor, and a few other items controlled by my phone. I can use Wifi on my phone or take my laptop to the shop to check out ForAbodiesOnly!
Cell reception was non existent in my metal shop so I bought an amplifier off ebay and mounted the antenna on the end of the shop and cabled to the internal tansmitter. 5 bars at all times inside the shop now.
 
This is what I use, it passes to a router inside my building, I watch iptv in the shop, while 4 video feeds are passing at the same time, (around 25Mbps) no problem. it's good for a few miles. hint, turn the output power down, i was picking up the signal 3 miles from the house. I use 2 of them, about $40 each on amazon

CPE210​

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Joe

edit, the router in the garage is setup as an access point, using the same network as the house.
 
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My shop is a pole barn, all metal roof and walls so I had no cell or other coverage inside. The shop is about 75' from the house. I put this wifi extender on the front of the shop and pointed it at the office window at the house. The wifi router is just inside the window. This gizmo works fantastic. The dish goes outside aimed at your wifi source, the little black box goes inside making the shop a hotspot. I get outstanding cell and internet in the shop now. This is an excellent product and well worth the price.

Amazon product ASIN B076KRTXQ6
 
Do not discount Carrier current ethernet. I use it for convenience and get transfer rates above 956MBPS. TP-Link works well and very cost friendly! My property camera friend!

Plug in a unit near your router and or switch and plug units anywhere you have power from the same source feed. I find it better and more secure than WIFI. JMO.
 
1969383S said:
Do not discount Carrier current ethernet. I use it for convenience and get transfer rates above 956MBPS. TP-Link works well and very cost friendly! My property camera friend!

Plug in a unit near your router and or switch and plug units anywhere you have power from the same source feed. I find it better and more secure than WIFI. JMO.
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I guess I should have said, my shop has its own 200 amp service with its own transformer.

Joe
 
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