Modern seats in a 67 barracuda

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Has anybody ever put bucket seats out of a 2005 ford truck or other vehicles that have the seat belt built into the seat into a 67-69 barracuda? I was thinking that if this works that I could upgrade my seat belts from lap belts to shoulder belts. Any thoughts?
 
I think i'm going to put those seat's in !they look pretty good! I hate my seat belts in my 74.
 
The Sebring convertible seats use a seat belt module and electric solenoid to lock the shoulder belt on deceleration. Not going to work without it-shoulder belt wont lock. Below is an operational description .

Since the retractor is mounted on a seat back that can recline, a typical seat belt g-sensor cannot be used in the retractor. Instead, a solenoid inside the retractor is used to lock and unlock the seat belt when electrically signaled to a remote g-sensor. The remote g-sensor is located inside the Seat belt Control Timer Module (SCTM) . The SCTM is located under the center console. Tile seat belt retractor solenoid is located in the seat back and is serviced as a assembly.

When the solenoids are powered, the seat belt can be moved. When the solenoids are not powered, the seat belts can not be extracted. This is necessary to ensure that occupants are always safe, even in the case of a power loss during an accident. Whether the seat belts are in lock or unlock position, an occupant can always release the seat belt and it will retract.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module controls the power to the seat belt solenoids. It supplies power continuously to the seat belts whenever the ignition key is in the RUN or ACCESSORY position. The module has two other unique functions: that of a timer and a g-sensor.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module was designed with a timer function so that when the vehicle is not in use, the battery would not be prematurely drained. The module times out after approximately 30 minutes if no inputs are send to the module. The module will power the seat belts for a set period of time when there is a input:
Either door ajar switch (open or closed)
Ignition switch moved from RUN or ACCESSARY to the OFF position.
Each time one of these input occurs, the timer is reset to keep the belts powered for 30 minutes .

The G-Sensor function of the Seat Belt Control Timer Module will cut power to the seat belt whenever:
The vehicle accelerates or decelerates at a rate greater than or equal to 0.7g in any direction.
The vehicle is tilted to an angle greater than or equal to 45 degrees .
Input of ignition switch in the RUN or ACCESSORY position will cause the module to power the seat belts as long as the condition exists.

The SCTM incorporates limited diagnostics. The detectable faults include solenoid shorted to ground, open or shorted to battery, internal fault, or no acceleration within the past 10 timer cycles. Faults are communicated to the seatbelt lamp via a single fault line to another module. The other module communicates the fault on the bus to the cluster/lamp.
Since the retractor is mounted on a seat back that can recline, a typical seat belt g-sensor cannot be used in the retractor. Instead, a solenoid inside the retractor is used to lock and unlock the seat belt when electrically signaled to a remote g-sensor. The remote g-sensor is located inside the Seat belt Control Timer Module (SCTM) . The SCTM is located under the center console. Tile seat belt retractor solenoid is located in the seat back and is serviced as a assembly.

When the solenoids are powered, the seat belt can be moved. When the solenoids are not powered, the seat belts can not be extracted. This is necessary to ensure that occupants are always safe, even in the case of a power loss during an accident. Whether the seat belts are in lock or unlock position, an occupant can always release the seat belt and it will retract.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module controls the power to the seat belt solenoids. It supplies power continuously to the seat belts whenever the ignition key is in the RUN or ACCESSORY position. The module has two other unique functions: that of a timer and a g-sensor.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module was designed with a timer function so that when the vehicle is not in use, the battery would not be prematurely drained. The module times out after approximately 30 minutes if no inputs are send to the module. The module will power the seat belts for a set period of time when there is a input:
Either door ajar switch (open or closed)
Ignition switch moved from RUN or ACCESSARY to the OFF position.
Each time one of these input occurs, the timer is reset to keep the belts powered for 30 minutes .

The G-Sensor function of the Seat Belt Control Timer Module will cut power to the seat belt whenever:
The vehicle accelerates or decelerates at a rate greater than or equal to 0.7g in any direction.
The vehicle is tilted to an angle greater than or equal to 45 degrees .
Input of ignition switch in the RUN or ACCESSORY position will cause the module to power the seat belts as long as the condition exists.

The SCTM incorporates limited diagnostics. The detectable faults include solenoid shorted to ground, open or shorted to battery, internal fault, or no acceleration within the past 10 timer cycles. Faults are communicated to the seatbelt lamp via a single fault line to another module. The other module communicates the fault on the bus to the cluster/lamp.

Since the retractor is mounted on a seat back that can recline, a typical seat belt g-sensor cannot be used in the retractor. Instead, a solenoid inside the retractor is used to lock and unlock the seat belt when electrically signaled to a remote g-sensor. The remote g-sensor is located inside the Seat belt Control Timer Module (SCTM) . The SCTM is located under the center console. Tile seat belt retractor solenoid is located in the seat back and is serviced as a assembly.

When the solenoids are powered, the seat belt can be moved. When the solenoids are not powered, the seat belts can not be extracted. This is necessary to ensure that occupants are always safe, even in the case of a power loss during an accident. Whether the seat belts are in lock or unlock position, an occupant can always release the seat belt and it will retract.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module controls the power to the seat belt solenoids. It supplies power continuously to the seat belts whenever the ignition key is in the RUN or ACCESSORY position. The module has two other unique functions: that of a timer and a g-sensor.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module was designed with a timer function so that when the vehicle is not in use, the battery would not be prematurely drained. The module times out after approximately 30 minutes if no inputs are send to the module. The module will power the seat belts for a set period of time when there is a input:
Either door ajar switch (open or closed)
Ignition switch moved from RUN or ACCESSARY to the OFF position.
Each time one of these input occurs, the timer is reset to keep the belts powered for 30 minutes .

The G-Sensor function of the Seat Belt Control Timer Module will cut power to the seat belt whenever:
The vehicle accelerates or decelerates at a rate greater than or equal to 0.7g in any direction.
The vehicle is tilted to an angle greater than or equal to 45 degrees .
Input of ignition switch in the RUN or ACCESSORY position will cause the module to power the seat belts as long as the condition exists.

The SCTM incorporates limited diagnostics. The detectable faults include solenoid shorted to ground, open or shorted to battery, internal fault, or no acceleration within the past 10 timer cycles. Faults are communicated to the seatbelt lamp via a single fault line to another module. The other module communicates the fault on the bus to the cluster/lamp.

Since the retractor is mounted on a seat back that can recline, a typical seat belt g-sensor cannot be used in the retractor. Instead, a solenoid inside the retractor is used to lock and unlock the seat belt when electrically signaled to a remote g-sensor. The remote g-sensor is located inside the Seat belt Control Timer Module (SCTM) . The SCTM is located under the center console. Tile seat belt retractor solenoid is located in the seat back and is serviced as a assembly.

When the solenoids are powered, the seat belt can be moved. When the solenoids are not powered, the seat belts can not be extracted. This is necessary to ensure that occupants are always safe, even in the case of a power loss during an accident. Whether the seat belts are in lock or unlock position, an occupant can always release the seat belt and it will retract.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module controls the power to the seat belt solenoids. It supplies power continuously to the seat belts whenever the ignition key is in the RUN or ACCESSORY position. The module has two other unique functions: that of a timer and a g-sensor.

The Seat Belt Control Timer Module was designed with a timer function so that when the vehicle is not in use, the battery would not be prematurely drained. The module times out after approximately 30 minutes if no inputs are send to the module. The module will power the seat belts for a set period of time when there is a input:
Either door ajar switch (open or closed)
Ignition switch moved from RUN or ACCESSARY to the OFF position.
Each time one of these input occurs, the timer is reset to keep the belts powered for 30 minutes .

The G-Sensor function of the Seat Belt Control Timer Module will cut power to the seat belt whenever:
The vehicle accelerates or decelerates at a rate greater than or equal to 0.7g in any direction.
The vehicle is tilted to an angle greater than or equal to 45 degrees .
Input of ignition switch in the RUN or ACCESSORY position will cause the module to power the seat belts as long as the condition exists.

The SCTM incorporates limited diagnostics. The detectable faults include solenoid shorted to ground, open or shorted to battery, internal fault, or no acceleration within the past 10 timer cycles. Faults are communicated to the seatbelt lamp via a single fault line to another module. The other module communicates the fault on the bus to the cluster/lamp.
 
I think they used that module from 96-00
Mine are from an 03 which did not use that module to lock the belts. They just rely on inertia to lock the belts. You do lose the pretensioners that work with airbags, but with no airbags its not an issue. :)

I like the Sebring seats so much I bought a 2nd set in a pick a part for a 2nd 73 Duster I have been working to make drivable.
The purple Duster took quite a bit of work because I changed the floorpans to fit a 545RFE trans.

In my gold Duster installation was much easier. I cut off the front mounts where it rivets to the rails on the seat and cut off part of the rails that looped lower than the rest.

I lined up the rear door side mounting hole in the seats with the bench seat hole in the floorpan first and enlarged it slightly to fit a 1/2" bolt. On the front I welded on a short piece of flat 1/4" steel with a 1/2" bolt welded in to go through the floor using the stock bench hole which had to be enlarged slightly.

On the front tunnel side I welded on a short piece of square tubing to get the right height and welded a 1/2" bolt in the center to go through the floor. For the back I welded on a piece of steel and bolt similar to the front door side and used washers underneath to adjust the height. I used large washers with lock washers and nuts everywhere to help prevent pull through in the event of a crash and will eventually go back and add some larger plates to the floorpan for some reinforcement similar to the old seatbelt mounts.
 

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Approximately how much does it cost to get newer bucket seats for
from salvage yards?

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That's about the going rate at pick n pull. One thing to remember is the bottom seat cushions on the Sebring will interchange and since the drivers side is usually the one that takes the most wear it opens up possibilities to get decent ones by finding good passengers side bottoms
 
It should without an issue. Somewhere I have pics of a friends 67 barracuda convertible with them in it and the factory console.
 
Yes in the 2g sebrings (01-06) although thier method for control makes it a bear to add to a car or retrofit into an older one. Best bet for that is to go with an aftermarket kit
 
Just found this thread but of course it was after I picked up a set of seats from a Sebring convertible. Had no idea that there was a difference between the years and didn't take note of the year the car was that I took them from. So if I understand this correctly if I can move the seat belts then they are 2001 and up and I don't need electronics to make them work for my Barracuda. Is there any other way to tell what year and if they will work properly? Sure glad I saw this thread. Thanks to everyone for their input on this as its a real safety issue and I would have never realized there was an issue till after I had installed them.
 
I put 2005 Ford Taurus seats in my 66. Converted belts to just lap belts. Re tractors work well, they mount where the seat belts were mounted. And center console works good.
 
I found a pair of integrated bucket seats that are in a 2004 Chevy Tahoe. Does anybody know how they work or has anybody ever used them in an A body?
 
It was not a Mopar, but I did put BMW convertible seats into my 66 Fairlane Convertible that I used to have. They were a little sportier so they didn't have as much cushion on them, but were power and gave me much more headroom since the bottom cushion was not very thick. Also, the rails were completely flat which made fitting them into the car much easier.
 

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