Still thinking about whether or not I will fully sell or not. But going to test the waters for now. I am not in a rush to sell it. Believe, me it's very hard just thinking about it let alone posting about it.
Over dramatic?
MuuMuu101's 68 Dart, A Learning Process...
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Still thinking about whether or not I will fully sell or not. But going to test the waters for now. I am not in a rush to sell it. Believe, me it's very hard just thinking about it let alone posting about it.
Over dramatic?
Over dramatic?
No. While I joke around a lot, I am honest when I am serious.
Old cars are not for everyone. They require a sense of dedication because they are usually not practical to use for daily transportation. They are toys. I doubt anyone is commuting 40,000 miles a year in Pennsylvania in a 70 Road Runner or any other classic Mopar.
If a man isn't that skilled, it helps to have friends around that can lend a hand.
If a man decides that the old car hobby isn't as fun as it used to be, he often bails out.
If a man did not grow up with these cars when they were new, he might not have the same love and patience for them.
This is not a direct reflection of the OP, just a general observation from a Man with several sunsets behind him.
No. While I joke around a lot, I am honest when I am serious.
Old cars are not for everyone. They require a sense of dedication because they are usually not practical to use for daily transportation. They are toys. I doubt anyone is commuting 40,000 miles a year in Pennsylvania in a 70 Road Runner or any other classic Mopar.
If a man isn't that skilled, it helps to have friends around that can lend a hand.
If a man decides that the old car hobby isn't as fun as it used to be, he often bails out.
If a man did not grow up with these cars when they were new, he might not have the same love and patience for them.
This is not a direct reflection of the OP, just a general observation from a Man with several sunsets behind him.
mopowers
Well-Known Member
What's the asking price? I couldn't find it.
Kern Dog, you nailed it.
I'll take ....
If a man did not grow up with these cars when they were new, he might not have the same love and patience for them.....for $100,000 please.
could have added women too....a customer that owns a 2016 Hemi Challenger and a 69 (I think) Dart and I were discussing old Mopars and he remark that his wife told him...
"when I drive the Challenger I feel like an old woman in a hot car
but when I drive the Dart ....I'm 17 again!"
says it all for me.
I'll take ....
If a man did not grow up with these cars when they were new, he might not have the same love and patience for them.....for $100,000 please.
could have added women too....a customer that owns a 2016 Hemi Challenger and a 69 (I think) Dart and I were discussing old Mopars and he remark that his wife told him...
"when I drive the Challenger I feel like an old woman in a hot car
but when I drive the Dart ....I'm 17 again!"
says it all for me.
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At the bottom, above the videos, there's a section that says price and location.
goldduster318
Overzealous Car Modifier
I'm 33 years old, have another friend who's the same age that has a 71 Demon, and other friends with 66 and 68 Chevelles, and a 71 Corvette, 72 Skylark, and a 68 Firebird and to be honest we all worked really hard on them, I don't think they're going anywhere. Like you said, its a totally different feeling than a new car, its also a good conversation piece.
I'm hoping it's not because you don't like some of the work done by others - I know that car spent a lot of time away from you getting worked on by others who took a huge amount of time, and also maybe didn't do the absolute best possible work because of the issues you've had (okay maybe that part is just my opinion). My car's build has a lot of common features with yours, just a lot of stuff done in a slightly different way. I know every nut and bolt on mine, and maybe you don't feel that way.
I thought that was directed my way....but upon re-reading it, I do not think it was.
I get confused easily. (ask my wife)
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I won't "disagree" with your posts here because there are some scraps of truth to them. And yes, you are absolutely being overly dramatic.
Either you haven't bothered to read this whole thread, or you don't understand it. If you did, you would see the dedication and hard work that MuuMuu has put in on his car. He's done a ton of his own work. He's been reluctant to send work out, even when it was clearly the best thing to do. He's been pouring his heart and soul into his car for over 7 years now. He's clearly a "car guy for life".
But he's also just bought a new house. And got married. Dude has a lot of stuff on his plate. A "car guy for life" can sell his car. Life comes first. Taking a few years out of the hobby to get your life situated, your family started/situated, doesn't mean you're not a car guy. Just means you understand that there are priorities in life. If your car truly comes first, you're a selfish prick.
I'd hate to see MuuMuu sell his car. I get it, sometimes these cars are challenging. Sometimes it feels like you won't ever get everything sorted out. I've been there. Hell I'm there right now. I'm finishing up the T56 conversion from hell, I've had the damn thing in and out a dozen times and had a couple things come up I just couldn't believe they were so ridiculous. But sometimes that's how it goes, and you have to step back for awhile. For me, I've been fortunate enough that I've been able to step away for awhile without selling anything. Ever. But that's a product of the hard work I put in before- the fact that I have an established career, own a house, have a very understanding wife, have the space, time, money, etc to park a valuable asset and just not worry about it for a bit without it upending the rest of my life. Not everyone is that fortunate or have reached that place in their life. Honestly I'd still be better off if I sold off a few of my projects. Having all the stuff that I do is my own dysfunction, and I probably put this hobby higher in my priorities than I should.
I grew up around old cars. Not the way some of you did, I'm 40 so it's not like these cars were coming out new as I was growing up. But growing up in an auto-restoration shop meant I was always around and driving old cars. And daily driving old cars. But that's been my choice, and I've been both lucky and skilled enough to pull it off most of my life. But even I had a couple years where I bought a new car and wasn't daily driving something that pre-dated me. Just had too much going on getting my career and life established and not enough work space to pull it off. There's no shame in that. Yeah, I think MuuMuu should keep his car if at all possible. There's so much time, effort and money into that car that it'll be really hard to sell it and then come back into the hobby later with a car at that level. But if that has to happen to keep his life's priorities straight it doesn't mean he's not a car guy. That's complete BS.
mopowers
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"If a WOman did not grow up with these cars when they were new, She might not have the same love and patience for them."
I agree that an old car is not for everyone and it takes a huge amount if dedication and skill to keep one going.
I daily drive a 68 dart and its my only transportation by choice. There have been many times I was on the side of the road watching newer cars wizz by but I stay loyal.
I am 32 so I didn't see these cars new but I would argue that I have more patience than a lot of pensioners who are bailing for a new fiat challenger because they just want to drive and not ever wrench..... so I disagree on that one.
If mr.muumuu got married, i think that is a good reason to bail. I stay single because I am not going to let some guy tell me what to do and make me sell my cars and stop doing what I love, but a normal person would put a marriage before cars and hobbies.
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Give me a break!
reminds me of my response when advised to buy Amazon stock for $400 @ share.....just say'n
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You are absolutely right. I missed that.
For the naysayers....REread what I wrote. Notice that when I post an opinion, I do not paint myself into a corner with absolute terms.
IF. MIGHT NOT.
This is opinion. Because of that, I carefully construct what I write.
Some people that have a history with these cars from their youth tend to form a deeper connection than someone that recently discovered them. This is not absolute, just a tendency that I have noticed.
Back on topic:
The OP does have a bunch of time and money in the car. He did learn a lot along the way. Who knows, maybe he will stray away and come back to the hobby.
One more opinion that is sure to annoy some but I think it bears mentioning:
A car like this that is unfinished will not sell for the price the OP is asking. Yes, there are thousands of dollars of great parts and labor spent on it but it is as rare as a 40 year old virgin to get even HALF of your money back when selling an unfinished car. This car appears to be mechanically sound. It needs to be painted and have a few other issues addressed before it could get anywhere near the $40,000 asking price.
This is my opinion. I do wish the OP luck on his future endeavors.
racerhog
RacerHog likes his Mopars
Best of luck with the sale... Hope you change your mind...
Best Wishes
Best Wishes
Car didn't sell and I'm going to sit on it for awhile. It's sitting in a garage until I can figure out what I want or can do with it exactly. You probably won't be seeing much updates. I'm focusing on other things right now.
If you don't need the cash right now, holding onto it may be a good thing. You can avoid being the guy that we ALL see at car shows that says...."I wish that I had kept that car".
Cash isn't an issue in the sense of, "If I don't sell the car I'm going to be broke." Right now, space isn't one, but can be in the future. I'm working on getting some space at my current home so I don't have to drive 20 miles in SoCal traffic just to see the Dart. If I'm able to obtain that space, and bring the car here, then I'd be more motivated to work on the car more than I do now and keep it up.
But, my priorities with the car have changed since I first built it and I think I want to change the car up drastically. However, I just want to put my time, money, and energy into other things right now and come back to the Dart later with my new ideas. I'm just focusing on my family, career, and happiness.
It will be a HUGE shock to some to hear that happiness can come from someplace other than cars!
itchy666
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NO!
I hope everything goes the way you would like.
Reference Post #591 and #592
Thank you! I am pretty sure it will. I just need some time.
DionR
Well-Known Member
Not challenging your thought, nor am I offended, but I would like to offer an alternate viewpoint.
There is certainly the reasoning that "I just want to drive and never worry about breaking down, so I drive a new car". I get that and can see the reasoning.
But there is also the idea that "I want a fast car that is reasonably fuel efficient and might have some creature comforts". It could be argued that for at least 50% of the car people on this site, an LC/LX is faster, more comfortable and more efficient that anything they can build in a reasonable time frame and cost. I have had my Duster for well over 22 years in total and have always had the dream/plan to modernize it and drive it daily (and have been working towards that goal), but I am far from anything close to what my Challenger has to offer right now.
Now, if it is the "feel" of an old car that you like, a new one isn't ever going to do the job. I understand that and agree. I like driving my Duster, and if I ever get it to the point that it is as fast and efficient as my Challenger then it will be my daily. I love the idea of being able to say I built it, not bought it, and it will certainly be more unique. My someday dream is to duplicate (most of) my Challenger in a lighter package and drive it all over the USA. But at the rate I am going, it will be a long time before I get there.
If all you want to do is cruise and an older car gives you more joy when doing so, no arguing that a newer Challenger would be boring. But if you want easy speed, tight suspension, big brakes and 25 mpg, a newer Challenger ain’t a bad way to get there in a short amount of time.
New cars are comfortable, fast, efficient.....
Old cars are uncomfortable, some times somewhat fast, and some times sorta efficient..... but they have a different soul.
Old cars are uncomfortable, some times somewhat fast, and some times sorta efficient..... but they have a different soul.
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