Need recommendation for a Carb for better MPG!

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I have a 5-speed 72 Dodge Demon with a 340, Edelbrock 1406. Looking for possible recommendations for a carburetor that might give me better mpg. I've recently been able to drive as a simi-daily driver but it's hard to get much better than about 17 mpg driving like Miss Daisy! I would be happy with 22 or better and I'll take any advice I can get.
Thanks anyone!
 
Assuming highway cruising? 71-73 340 TQ or QuadraJet. Maybe a Street Demon, but I have no personal experience with one. Around town, be happy with 17 mpg.
 
A Street Demon 625 would be a great choice, but 17 is pretty good for a 340. What gear do you have? I think expecting 22 or more from a 340 is something out of a fantasy movie. That 1406 is already an economy carburetor. The 1405 is the performance version. I'd check your tuneup first. Where is your initial and total timing?
 
Not much more mileage to be gained from a carb swap IMO. You might be able to squeeze some more with tuning, lean out the cruise mixture as much as possible and make use of vacuum advance. What kind of cam and compression ratio does your 340 have, and what's the rear-end gearing?
 
I have a 5-speed 72 Dodge Demon with a 340, Edelbrock 1406. Looking for possible recommendations for a carburetor that might give me better mpg. I've recently been able to drive as a simi-daily driver but it's hard to get much better than about 17 mpg driving like Miss Daisy! I would be happy with 22 or better and I'll take any advice I can get.
Thanks anyone!
17 ? I would call that good.
 
A Street Demon 625 would be a great choice, but 17 is pretty good for a 340. What gear do you have? I think expecting 22 or more from a 340 is something out of a fantasy movie. That 1406 is already an economy carburetor. The 1405 is the performance version. I'd check your tuneup first. Where is your initial and total timing?
OK, I can appreciate that, thank you! Yes, it probably needs a tune up. I'm not a mechanic but I want to learn so I'll take any and all tune-up tips you might have. It was sitting for a while before I started driving it again. I had a 2brl 318 in an automatic Duster as a kid and could get 25-26 to the Hyw. Is there really that much difference between a 318 and a 340? The 340 that I have now never had that much more noticeable power than the 318. I'm know a lot could be done to make it stronger but that's not what I want unless it's derived from more efficiency.
 
Some answered questions. How much initial and total timing? What gear?
 
Not much more mileage to be gained from a carb swap IMO. You might be able to squeeze some more with tuning, lean out the cruise mixture as much as possible and make use of vacuum advance. What kind of cam and compression ratio does your 340 have, and what's the rear-end gearing?
I think the real end is 323 and unknown about compression. Not able to test that myself. I will look into the lean thing. Thank You!
 
With a 5-speed manual, your rpm might be 65=2200. Your engine might want over 50 degrees advance.
How much are you running? at what rpm?
My tach weirdly stopped working so I'll have to get that up and running again to answer the rpm question but as I remember, I do think it was about 2200@65.
 
A tuned on the car Thermoquad
Is an excellent choice, preferably a low smog one, 750 CFM, with vacuum advance port
 
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Lean to a point. If you don't know what your doing, you can damage the engine and create excessive Nitrogen Oxide which is a Greenhouse gas. As others have stated knowing where your tune is could help increase the efficiency of the burn.
 
Air the tires up to 60psi, remove the air cleaner, make sure the oil level is on add.....


I should have mentioned this is terrible advice, I feel like most people would know but then again tide pods.
 
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My tach weirdly stopped working so I'll have to get that up and running again to answer the rpm question but as I remember, I do think it was about 2200@65.
Well then, start working on the timing. Rusty has been asking, and me too,
However if that 340 has a factory cam, then 17 is pretty good. That cam was terrible for fuel economy.

I can tell you how to set your cruise-timing, but that doesn't mean that you will automatically get any better than the 17 mpg that you are now getting, and in the process, it might mess up your power-timing, and or PT timing.
Just make sure you have a working Vacuum advance system.
Part of the problem is that with the factory cam, 2200 is almost too slow to run a 340. Another is that the power stroke is very short.
Another is that most everybody recommends to run that cam advanced, which just aggravates things.

As far as cams go, the factory 340 cam, being on a 114 LSA is just too far apart. this chews up compression degrees all rightee to help keep it out of detonation, but it also chews up power stroke, which leaves a lot of cylinder pressure escaping into the exhaust, which could have been sent to the crank, to power the vehicle down the hiway. Instead it just puffs out the tailpipes.
Everybody used to rave about that cam, but not me. IMO, it was a terrible street cam. I mean I kindof understand why that cam got in there, but back in the day, it was one of the first things to get rid of, right after installing headers.. Today we have many better designs. IIRC I got 4 or 5 boxed up around here somewhere.
But you know, 1972 was a long time ago, and chances are that the original cam is long gone.... and who really knows what cam is in it...............
 
This will stir the pot for sure. Just my own personal experience with the small block Mopar. I had a 1989 D-150 318 a/t and 2.73's 2 wheel drive and it's best was 14-16 on the highway. My 1998 wasn'tmuch better.Even my dad's 1998 D-150 only got 18 on the highway. My parents 1985 5t Avenue got 28 on the highway, but that was probably due to the fact that had the lean burn system on it. I've never known anyone who got good mileage from a 318, I'm not saying that it hasn't happened or that it's impossible. But I will say that I've heard more people say that mopars are not known for mileage and for my experience it's true
 
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