chryslerfat
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Doing all the work yourself wont be as expensive as others think. Kudos for saving it.
Not a A-body,,,but an extremely rare mopar (* forest find !!!)
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its great you want to save these cars. all the talk about value is mute as you will definitely have more in them they would sell for even if you do all the work. why does $$$$$ always come up.in these discusions? if someone wants to make a $$ retoring a car, they should buy a car they will bring the $$.after all that work a nd $$ has been spent. it costs NO more to do the body, interior, suspension, etc on a car worth $$ restored than one not worth much.
I bought a 70 charger rt that had sat on its belly ( no rear end or springs, sitting completely on its floor pans.) for I know 6-8 years. it had NO rust on pans at all. I could not believe it. and NO Missouri is not the dessert! ha good luck!!!
I bought a 70 charger rt that had sat on its belly ( no rear end or springs, sitting completely on its floor pans.) for I know 6-8 years. it had NO rust on pans at all. I could not believe it. and NO Missouri is not the dessert! ha good luck!!!
jeepsterhemi
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Congrats Valerian on your find, looks like you have the talent to ressucitate this
RoadRunner/GTX..........
If I may, I'll tell you a little story about another RR/GTX.......in the early nineties I bought a 1974 RR/GTX from a wrecking yard near St-Tite, Québec for 125$. A 318 ci was in the car but of course I knew it came with a 440 from the factory.
A Mopar magazine run an article from a guy in Livermore, California who owned a 1974 RR/GTX and claim to have documentation that only 79 RR/GTX were built in 1974. He start a registry for these 1974 RR/GTX and will send documentation to the member of the registry only. Of course, I send him copy of the broadcast sheet and the data plate BUT never heard of the guy anymore. It was before Internet and little I can do.
I later sold the car but keep the broadcast sheet and the data plate, NO interest for the buyer!!!!
RoadRunner/GTX..........
If I may, I'll tell you a little story about another RR/GTX.......in the early nineties I bought a 1974 RR/GTX from a wrecking yard near St-Tite, Québec for 125$. A 318 ci was in the car but of course I knew it came with a 440 from the factory.
A Mopar magazine run an article from a guy in Livermore, California who owned a 1974 RR/GTX and claim to have documentation that only 79 RR/GTX were built in 1974. He start a registry for these 1974 RR/GTX and will send documentation to the member of the registry only. Of course, I send him copy of the broadcast sheet and the data plate BUT never heard of the guy anymore. It was before Internet and little I can do.
I later sold the car but keep the broadcast sheet and the data plate, NO interest for the buyer!!!!
jeepsterhemi
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Here is some pics of the RR/GTX...........
I owned a 74 RR for a bit (traded the car for another Mopar) back in 2001/2002. Did not know about the GTX package and this one does not seem to have it, was a cool car in Yellow Blaze, black leather and a 440. Never drove it.
Good luck with the RR/GTX resto!
Good luck with the RR/GTX resto!
ArizonaKid
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My dad actually has two of these roadrunners, A '73 and a '74.
View attachment '73 roadrunner.jpg
The '73 is a 340 4 speed car he bought for $650 back in the 80's.
View attachment '74 roadrunner draining.jpg
The '74 is actually his first car he bought in the early 80's, later sold for a down payment on his first house, and bought it back through Ebay and luck.
View attachment '73 roadrunner.jpg
The '73 is a 340 4 speed car he bought for $650 back in the 80's.
View attachment '74 roadrunner draining.jpg
The '74 is actually his first car he bought in the early 80's, later sold for a down payment on his first house, and bought it back through Ebay and luck.
jeepsterhemi
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Maybe we can start a registry of ''EX'' RR/GTX owners..........LOL..........and we have documentation to prove that we once owned one..........
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That book had tons of errors, mistakes, etc.
That 79 numbers has been mistakingly thrown around for years because of that lame book. That book is about only good for the pictures. The text is worthless.
ValerianMagnum
the little car that could
Wow im happy all these super nice comments...it will be a huge labor but still can wait to go get the 2 cars , not planning on saving the satellite at all but still can be an excellent donor for the rr gtx , it looks like its a bit hard the have the real numbers im not to sure but something tells me that in 74...not a lot of these big mean birds cam out with a freakin huge 7.2 liters , still must be a very rare package and color combo
vntned
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I'm pretty sure all factory 440 '73-'74 RRs were GTXs...
And I think they only made 79 GTXs that year.
And I think they only made 79 GTXs that year.
jeepsterhemi
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jeepsterhemi
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Try to post bigger image.........
Dustdevl340
Westie Dad & All Around Mopar Fanatic
Good luck with it. I've been liking these more & more since we had a beautiful black 340 73 Runner parked beside us at Moparfest a few years ago. That car was pristine. I'd be happy to have one myself.
ValerianMagnum
the little car that could
Wow thank you so muchhhh for these infos... still thats the total numbers for production, still curious to know the ones shipped in canada!
dodgetexan
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Very nice find and I encourage you to go for it.:cheers: I think all of the old mopar muscle cars need to be saved because they aren't making any more of them and every year there are fewer and fewer left. Good luck with the resto.
That GTX looks like it was loaded. Is that rear wing original? I've never seen a 74 Roadrunner with a rear wing.
That GTX looks like it was loaded. Is that rear wing original? I've never seen a 74 Roadrunner with a rear wing.
nm9stheham
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At a minimum......Get some chains or cable, 2 per car, about 4-5m long and jack the cars up carefully, and used the chains/cables and come-alongs to connect the lower front area to the lower rear area. The floors and subframe area completely rusted through and the floors have collapsed; that is obvious from the way the cars are sitting. If you just pull on either end, you're likely going to mess up the roofs and tear them apart at the A-pillars, and perhaps bust the glass.
If it were me, I'd jack them up in place, it enough was left, remove the interiors, and take along some steel tubing, a generator, and a MIG welder, and tie whats left of the front and rear together before trying to move them. I'll bet the floors and rockers are almost totally gone.
If it were me, I'd jack them up in place, it enough was left, remove the interiors, and take along some steel tubing, a generator, and a MIG welder, and tie whats left of the front and rear together before trying to move them. I'll bet the floors and rockers are almost totally gone.
jeepsterhemi
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RM21U4(R)............R is for Windsor, Ontario plant. They were built in Canada.
MOPAR4Me
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Can't wait to see lots of pics of the extraction from the earth, and your build thread chronicling the path from current state, to the path back to full glory by your proven skills reflected on the Cuda.
I more recently started a greater appreciation for these later body styles, and have been looking at these currently listed, sometimes at very reasonable prices.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/5220010363.html
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/5202137837.html
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5240533109.html
I more recently started a greater appreciation for these later body styles, and have been looking at these currently listed, sometimes at very reasonable prices.
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/5220010363.html
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/cto/5202137837.html
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5240533109.html
If welding is a problem he might be able to bolt some flat stock between a couple of solid points. Even something link some 2" x 3/16" flat stock would do wonders to keep things together underneath if there's a couple of solid chunks of rocker or frame extensions at each end. Or just some 1" square tube with some landing plates bolted in as door reinforcements. Only problem with any of it being the availability of solid metal to connect to. The door bars would probably work best, but, only if the door jambs are still connected to anything.
For the OP, if you want some jamb to jamb measurements on the doors I could measure my '71 Satellite. Should be the same, that way you could pre-fab some door bars before the extraction and just bolt them in.
The first two aren't awful for pricing, but that '72 Satellite is more than 2x what I paid for my '71 SSP in similar condition, ie, running, drivable, with some minor rust and paint issues. Mine is also pretty highly optioned as an SSP, with a 383/727, power windows, power steering, power brakes, rear defrost, buckets with a buddy seat, disks, etc. Assuming the '72 is a Satellite and not actually a RR or GTX, but since he listed ALL of the models I'm assuming what he's actually got is just a Satellite.
My '71 SSP
ValerianMagnum
the little car that could
ValerianMagnum
the little car that could
We manage to took it out , was hard , was not pretty but still its at sitting in my garage for now , we gonna remove want can be saved first , and we will sandblast the body to see were we are going first , its a long term project but still , it can be saved !!! now its dissasemble time !!!
you are brave sandblasting! From the looks there wont be anything left! People are just dumbasses letting these old cars sit in the mud for so long. I bet there is nothing left under there. Good luck.
ValerianMagnum
the little car that could
no theres nothing left under there , few inches of floor , in the rear , but we have to put it on solid beams and weld temporary re-enforcement to at leat have a floor or tubes to start with , the front engine bay and roof is extremly solid , remember no bondo anywhere
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