UTG video today hes changing LCA bushing ,and he said he found a poly bushing that you install but leave the metal shell in there and put in a polyurethane bushing, Anyone ever hear of this type before? or is he blowin smoke again
Polyurethane LCA bushing ? ( UTG VIDEO)
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Nope, that's actually very common.
Any one know of a supplier of those type of poly bushing? thanks
Been around for over a decade at least, I’ve done it a few times.
A few options
1974 PLYMOUTH DUSTER Prothane Motion Control 4-205-BL Prothane Front Control Arm Bushings | Summit Racing
1974 PLYMOUTH DUSTER Hotchkis Sport Suspension 21366 Hotchkis Sport Suspension Replacement Front Control Arm Bushings | Summit Racing
1974 PLYMOUTH DUSTER Energy Suspension 5.3112R Energy Suspension Control Arm Bushing Sets | Summit Racing
A few options
1974 PLYMOUTH DUSTER Prothane Motion Control 4-205-BL Prothane Front Control Arm Bushings | Summit Racing
1974 PLYMOUTH DUSTER Hotchkis Sport Suspension 21366 Hotchkis Sport Suspension Replacement Front Control Arm Bushings | Summit Racing
1974 PLYMOUTH DUSTER Energy Suspension 5.3112R Energy Suspension Control Arm Bushing Sets | Summit Racing
Purt near all of um. In fact, the only bushings I know of that do not use the shells at all are those from @BergmanAutoCraft. The Delrin bushings. Other than that, I've not seen any other poly bushings that do not reuse at least the outer shell. I ain't seen it all by a long shot, though.
This Proforged version comes with its own outer shell, it wouldn’t re-use the original outer shell
1974 PLYMOUTH DUSTER Proforged Chassis Parts 115-10034 Proforged Control Arm Bushings | Summit Racing
Thanks! I figured there were some that did, I just had not seen them.
Unfortunately UTG will probably botch the install and we’ll have to see more people that haven’t the foggiest idea what they’re talking about say that poly doesn’t work because they don’t understand basic concepts.
I’ve used the plain old $10 prothane bushings with great success, but unlike what some will say you can’t just “slap them in there”.
The poly bushing has to fit tightly into the old shell, which isn’t always the case because of the original tolerances. You need to lubricate the bushing really well, because unlike the original bushings the poly bushing will spin on the LCA pivot shaft. So it has to be well lubricated. The pivot shaft must also fit tightly into the poly bushing, but again this reuses the inner shell pressed on the pivot (if you use the original pivot), and the tolerance matters. If the bushing is loose in the shell or on the pivot, it won’t work well. If you don’t lube the bushing, you’ll get squeaking and the friction will wear out the bushing.
I use aftermarket greasable LCA pivots and adjustable strut rods when I use poly or Delrin LCA bushings, and make sure all the fits are a tight slip fit. Do that and they’ll last forever.
I’ve used the plain old $10 prothane bushings with great success, but unlike what some will say you can’t just “slap them in there”.
The poly bushing has to fit tightly into the old shell, which isn’t always the case because of the original tolerances. You need to lubricate the bushing really well, because unlike the original bushings the poly bushing will spin on the LCA pivot shaft. So it has to be well lubricated. The pivot shaft must also fit tightly into the poly bushing, but again this reuses the inner shell pressed on the pivot (if you use the original pivot), and the tolerance matters. If the bushing is loose in the shell or on the pivot, it won’t work well. If you don’t lube the bushing, you’ll get squeaking and the friction will wear out the bushing.
I use aftermarket greasable LCA pivots and adjustable strut rods when I use poly or Delrin LCA bushings, and make sure all the fits are a tight slip fit. Do that and they’ll last forever.
Prothane is probably the most economical.
I know it's more costly, but the LCA takes a large load. Our delrin bushing doesn't need any shells when used with our pins, and is a superior material to the urethane offerings.
Delrin is quiet, stiff and longer lasting.
Bergmanautocraft.com
Delrin is quiet, stiff and longer lasting.
Bergmanautocraft.com
Yup and that's still what I am going to use......if I ever get the dough saved up. It's a *****.
Cuda416
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I fail to see why this particular thread was even started, nor why UTG was even mentioned, when a very simple google search would have given you what you needed.
If you were really interested in bushings rather than bashing, it's a simple question that required zero drama and feeding of the UTG haters of which there are many.
Not **** stirring needed.
Just my observation/opinion.
If you were really interested in bushings rather than bashing, it's a simple question that required zero drama and feeding of the UTG haters of which there are many.
Not **** stirring needed.
Just my observation/opinion.
I mean, it could be as simple as the OP didn’t know, saw the UTG video and asked? Doesn’t have to be a conspiracy.
How many posts on this board can be answered by the FSM? Or by a search on YouTube?
But then again, how much absolute terrible, wrong, and misleading information is on UTG’s YouTube alone? I’ll answer, it’s a lot. He’s completely wrong about a lot.
But he’s been more about clicks, views and money than about good information for a long time now.
Cuda416
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Yup, I get that, and the question could have been...
"Hey, I heard this, is it true?"
Simple and to the point.
But, it was not.
There seems to be a whole lot of folks around here who seem to hang on UT's every word so they can come here and bash. I don't care about UTG one way or the other, but I find it pathetic how many people get their feathers ruffled about a guy who they claim to not care about... Seems they care a whole lot.. piston envy maybe.. I dunno...
"Hey, I heard this, is it true?"
Simple and to the point.
But, it was not.
There seems to be a whole lot of folks around here who seem to hang on UT's every word so they can come here and bash. I don't care about UTG one way or the other, but I find it pathetic how many people get their feathers ruffled about a guy who they claim to not care about... Seems they care a whole lot.. piston envy maybe.. I dunno...
MopaR&D
Nerd Member
I'd agree with you but the sad/concerning part is he's getting more popular as time goes on and more people who don't know better are following his advice. A year or 2 ago I was thinking the same as you but now... not so much. He's like the Scotty Kilmer of hot-rodding, mixing good information with bad and you don't know which is which unless you already know.
If the source of one's misinformation isn't identified then it's easier for others to be misled as well.
Cuda416
Well-Known Member
Maybe so, but in this particular case, it was not so.
I stand by my statement. If was found to be garbage advice, THEN call him out...
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Oogliboogli
Why does it take UTg to tell you what energys website and instructions have said to do for decades?
My advice is ...STOP TURNING TO YOUTUBE FAKESTERS FOR INFORMATION.
They are nothing but copycats and fraudsters. Period.
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Oogliboogli
there's an audience for everyone and they do say most people are stupid, look how many viewers "Friends" had for instance or even Roseanne .
In the end if they follow his advice.. they'll end up like those little oysters and the chef who didn't get any to eat...
..So when all those used car salesman team up to form a 'stealership'.. you can kiss all of the other people's information goodbye and good luck finding it as well...its buried. For instance ..Search Mopar head porting on YouTube / Google.
Like a McDonald's on every corner, same 3 people.
Dfr360cuda
Diagnosis... Plum Crazy.
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