Problem with ply30 member

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His family knows what is going on .The phone number he gives you is their business.I am not sure what kind of business it is.I have spoken to both i believe are his grand parents seem like nice people.I told them i did not really want to get them involved have justin contact me.Justin must have told them not to answer the phone when they saw who was calling,I get no answer anymore.If you block your number from showing your name the call will not go through.I also have his cell number from where he called me early in this ordeal, he will not answer it either.Thanks for all the support
 
Well, funny thing, he's on right now!! Why not come out and get this resolved?? I don't get it!!!
 
Back in Time said:
I'd be at the courthouse bright and early tomorrow filing charges for bad checks.
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x2 someone needs to take a stand against this crap and let others know that we will not sit idly by and let them walk away with our money without consequence.
 
downsr said:
Yeah justin are you going to give me my money or not
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You might just be in for a big payday.

Civil Penalties

Ohio. The greater of $200 or three times the amount of check and attorney fees (no maximum).

Virginia. Lesser of $100 or three times amount of check.

http://www.ckfraud.org/penalties.html

Criminal Penalties.

Ohio. Misdemeanor: Up to 6 months in jail, $1,000 fine, or both. Felon: Up to 5 years, $2,500 fine, or both.


Virginia. $200 or less fine or 10 days to 12 months in jail, or both. One to five years in the penitentiary or fine and jail, or one to ten years penitentiary in discretion of court.

http://www.ckfraud.org/penalties.html#criminal
 
Young dumb and arrogant, will not end well for justin! Logs in and still will not pay up like a man! Good luck in life if this is the path you have obviously chosen. You are truly a dumb a..
 
Oklacarcollecto said:
You might just be in for a big payday.

Civil Penalties

Ohio. The greater of $200 or three times the amount of check and attorney fees (no maximum).

Virginia. Lesser of $100 or three times amount of check.

http://www.ckfraud.org/penalties.html

Criminal Penalties.

Ohio. Misdemeanor: Up to 6 months in jail, $1,000 fine, or both. Felon: Up to 5 years, $2,500 fine, or both.


Virginia. $200 or less fine or 10 days to 12 months in jail, or both. One to five years in the penitentiary or fine and jail, or one to ten years penitentiary in discretion of court.

http://www.ckfraud.org/penalties.html#criminal
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Justin meet Tyrone,
I now pronounce you man and wife, guess which one you are.

Might want to have someone put some KY on your books.
 
It's not quite that simple. Just having a check bounce is not a criminal offense. The law is about intent, and with that, you must prove from the outset that Justin's intent was to defraud you. The evidence will show that it was a legitimate deal that went wrong and that he simply owes you a debt.
You can get a civil judgment against him, but the best you can hope for is a lien against whatever assets you can prove are his,
 
whitepunkonnitro said:
It's not quite that simple. Just having a check bounce is not a criminal offense. The law is about intent, and with that, you must prove from the outset that Justin's intent was to defraud you. The evidence will show that it was a legitimate deal that went wrong and that he simply owes you a debt.
You can get a civil judgment against him, but the best you can hope for is a lien against whatever assets you can prove are his,
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In Oklahoma, it is that simple and from reading the Ohio laws it also appears to be that simple too. The pm that was sent about the check shows that it might not clear the bank.
 
Oklacarcollecto said:
In Oklahoma, it is that simple and from reading the Ohio laws it also appears to be that simple too. The pm that was sent about the check shows that it might not clear the bank.
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My point exactly. Justin gave the OP a heads-up that the check might bounce and asked if he could hold off before cashing it. That shows the intent was not to defraud, but that he simply did not have the money. Debt is not a crime, fraud is.
It's the difference between manslaughter and murder. In each situation, someone ends up dead. Someone steps out into the path of your car on the highway and you hit and kill him, it's an accident and therefore manslaughter. No criminal charges, but you are open to civil litigation.
Same car, same person, but in this case you know exactly when and where he's going to cross the highway and so you speed up and run him over. That's murder, a crime and also a civil deal.
All laws are based on intent. What did the person intend to do, not what he actually did. In this case, while Justin has come off as a greedy and dishonorable, neither of those qualities are criminal. They SHOULD be, but they are not.
 
whitepunkonnitro said:
My point exactly. Justin gave the OP a heads-up that the check might bounce and asked if he could hold off before cashing it. That shows the intent was not to defraud, but that he simply did not have the money. Debt is not a crime, fraud is.
It's the difference between manslaughter and murder. In each situation, someone ends up dead. Someone steps out into the path of your car on the highway and you hit and kill him, it's an accident and therefore manslaughter. No criminal charges, but you are open to civil litigation.
Same car, same person, but in this case you know exactly when and where he's going to cross the highway and so you speed up and run him over. That's murder, a crime and also a civil deal.
All laws are based on intent. What did the person intend to do, not what he actually did. In this case, while Justin has come off as a greedy and dishonorable, neither of those qualities are criminal. They SHOULD be, but they are not.
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This is where I disagree based off experience. Passing a check when you know the money isn't there is a criminal offense. I prosecuted more than one person during my many years in business. I have never had a check that wasn't collected by our District Attorney.
 
So if he did not mean to bounce the check why wo'nt he answer his phone or contact me .I know for a fact he knows the check was not any good.And he is on here a watching this thread and not saying a word
 
Ply30 member does not sound like anyone I would want to deal with and Im sure his reputation is shot but didnt he ask you to hold the check and not cash it????? Why didnt you give him time to get the funds in the bank?

You dont sound like anyone I would want to deal with either, all these posts stirring up **** when you could have been dealing with the problem as men deal with problems....and no that doesnt mean carrying on with this forum deal.

Not sticking up for Justin by any means, I dont feel the least bit sorry for him and Id warn anyone I came across to stay away from the little **** but in my opinion you are just creating more drama than needs to be created over a problem that could be so easily dealt with regardless of the distance between you two.

Hope you do not find my words offensive or abrasive, just my opinion.

BYW the 15 dollar fee in my opinion is your problem, again, he did ask you to hold the check if I remember reading correctly and unless my memory has gone haywire you scoffed at his request on-line here.

Sorry if I am getting the facts messed up but 11 pages of whining/bitchin is hard to keep straight.
 
I did wait till tues like he asked to cash it.Actually it was after 3 oclock tues and it should not have went through till weds.I do'nt now how else to handle it when the person will not speak to you.If you have a better way of resolving it lets hear it .How about paying the 185 dollars for him and you collect it from him.I just wanted everyone on here to be of aware of him and if you read most of the posts you will see i am not the only one with a problem with him feel free not to read anymore about it
 
downsr said:
So if he did not mean to bounce the check why wo'nt he answer his phone or contact me .I know for a fact he knows the check was not any good.And he is on here a watching this thread and not saying a word
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He is looking at this thread.
 

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So, what I want to know is, how can the bank charge you 15 bucks for a bad check you still have? In the past when I have tried to cash a bad check, they hand the check right back, tell me it's bad and there's no charge for that. Did you actually deposit the check? Without making a copy first? After all you were told?
 
To try & cash that worthless check you need to go to a branch of that bank--- or call that bank to see if it will clear. As you found out putting it in your account costs you money-- had you called the check's institution & verify funds costs you nothing. Lawrence

This whole thread & it's contents is just SAD. These ripped off threads seem to be trending-- look at the # of pages!!
 
I have read this thread from the beginning and kept silent for the most part. This guy is actually following this thread and not doing anything? Its not $5,000. For less than $200 this guy is going to wreck his reputation? Really?
 
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