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69_340_GTS said:
Great. Which ones had holes? And why? Please don't say "Magnums", because that is not what the OP has.
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In the land downunder, Australia, Chrysler used oil through pushods in all their small blocks. This was to improve reliability and reduce wear in the upper valve train. If I was the OP, I'd get some extra oil throughs and run them on all the lifters. It's a factory improvement to the valve train.
 
prime the oil pump and fire it up, keep revs down (under 4000 rpm) til u think things are good, its not rocket science, if u want check lifter preload
 
Marcohotrod said:
prime the oil pump and fire it up, keep revs down (under 4000 rpm) til u think things are good, its not rocket science, if u want check lifter preload
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For sure not rocket science or a brand new rebuild. I'm not worried about breaking stuff on because that's already been done but I'm just trying prevent something from breaking if the previous owner mixed and matched **** when he put it together.

I have some other pushrods I can try and match up size and length and use them to be on the safe side.
 
Marcohotrod said:
more oil to the rockers is less oil to the rod bearings, who wipes out first
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Was not trying to get more oil to the rockers. Just trying to figure out why there was four different ones on each side and what if anything it would hurt. It's a basic to mild Dailey driven 360 so it sounds like it would be fine like that other than it seems the non oiling ones are bigger and don't sit in the rockers very well. So I will try and see what I have for other and if not I'll buy some.
 
Bakerlite said:
In the land downunder, Australia, Chrysler used oil through pushods in all their small blocks. This was to improve reliability and reduce wear in the upper valve train. If I was the OP, I'd get some extra oil throughs and run them on all the lifters. It's a factory improvement to the valve train.
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What a wonderful bit of trivia. I just happen to live in the USA, as do 99% of the posters here, including the OP, and his engine, and his car. And have never seen a Land Down Under LA engine. Next time I post anything I'll make sure I put "IN THE USA" in any statements I make just to keep clowns like you off my back.
 
69_340_GTS said:
What a wonderful bit of trivia. I just happen to live in the USA, as do 99% of the posters here, including the OP, and his engine, and his car. And have never seen a Land Down Under LA engine. Next time I post anything I'll make sure I put "IN THE USA" in any statements I make just to keep clowns like you off my back.
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You can either learn from what I told you, or you can act like a child, the choice is yours.
 
Marcohotrod said:
more oil to the rockers is less oil to the rod bearings, who wipes out first
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That's usually if you modify the cam journals for full time oiling to the rocker shafts. Oil through pushrods take oil from the lifter gallery, not the mains.
 
69_340_GTS said:
The problem i have is that your smart *** comment did not apply to the question being asked.
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It has everything to do with it. It's obvious the engine has been cobbled together with parts from here and there.. The right solution to the problem is to replace the solids with oil troughs, they offer improved oiling to the rockers, otherwise he might as will just stick them back in higgledy piggledy.
 
should we all runout and get oil thru pushrods? the poster said the pushrods are the same length, I would use the oil thru units on the exhaust and don't worry, then get back to us
 
Marcohotrod said:
should we all runout and get oil thru pushrods? the poster said the pushrods are the same length, I would use the oil thru units on the exhaust and don't worry, then get back to us
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they are the same length and i have them in those positions. but if you look at the pictures its clear that the non oiling ones are the shinier newer ones and they are bigger around and dont seem to sit in the cups of the rocker arms very well
 
measure the diameter of ball ends, stock is a little less than 5/16" , if the ball end is bigger it will not sit as deep and act longer, again check lifter preload, and get more lube on the cam
 
Marcohotrod said:
measure the diameter of ball ends, stock is a little less than 5/16" , if the ball end is bigger it will not sit as deep and act longer, again check lifter preload, and get more lube on the cam
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went to Napa and looked some stuff up and found ( no surprise) they list the non oiling with the ball ends like the newer ones( the four different on each side) i have. they list all same lengths/sizes and part numbers for the 68/318 74/318 and 85/360 i have so i will look at all i have and make up the best matching set of non oiling push rods that i can.


thanks for all the help folks
 
scratch that because although he said they were all the same the ones in my 318 are clearly a bit smaller around and a tad longer
 
1970-dart said:
thank you and ill look in the parts box for those metal clips and if not ill try to find some to buy
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If you have access to metal banding (maybe at work?) you could make yer own.

When you put the screws/nuts in, peen the end of the screw so the nut don't fall off.

Check it for fitment, when I installed mine, I had to do some trimming around the back edge of it so it sat down correctly. That baffle will keep hot oil off the bottom of your intake helping keep the charge cooler.
 
i can buy them rather inexpensive ( not much over 1.00 each) just covering my basis to make sure i use the right ones.

the ones in the 360 are all the same length just a different ball end on 8 ( 4 each side)them and they don't ride exactly the same up in the rocker arm.

ones i just pulled from my 318 to compare are for sure a tad longer just by looking at them even though listings for it should be the same push rod.

napa and rock auto both list the 74 and 69 318 and the 85 360 as the same overall length and the exact part numbers for all three motors.

i dont have precision measuring tools so only way i can do it is with a tape measure.
 
1970-dart said:
i can buy them rather inexpensive ( not much over 1.00 each) just covering my basis to make sure i use the right ones.
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OK, wasn't sure if you could buy just the straps.

If you need different rods, I may have some.
 
problem with the rods is all my motors should have the same length and now im more confused because the 318 clearly has longer ones and it runs fine.

the ones in the 360 seem to be the same except the none oiling ones have a more pronounced ball on the end and seem to not ride in the rockers the same versus the non oiling ones and all pictures( i know prob general/generic pictures) at napa and rock auto show them being the ones with the more pronounced ball on the end
 
Bad Sport said:
:banghead: :D


In fact, I think I have rods and rockers that came out of one of my 360's.
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i can buy a whole new set for like 25$ right at napa just need to figure why they are all supposed to be the same but are different and still seem to work fine.

or maybe stop over thinking it which is hard to do with these things because if i just throw it together and something happens the first thing everybody is going to say is you should have taken more time and did more research and asked more questions.
 
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