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My general contractor responded to my latest message with the expression "Rodger That". It's been awhile, where have I heard that before?
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67Dart273
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I hate this kind of stupidity. As a radio amateur, I also am annoyed by common CB lingo which has migrated to the amateur bands
"Do ya gotta good copy on me?" is not even good grammar.
Yeh I gotta good copy on ya
"On the side." The side of WHAT?
And I had someone on a local VHF repeater ask me "what was my first personal?"
I told him "Not sure it's any of your business but if you really need to know, about 8 inches."
"Do ya gotta good copy on me?" is not even good grammar.
Yeh I gotta good copy on ya
"On the side." The side of WHAT?
And I had someone on a local VHF repeater ask me "what was my first personal?"
I told him "Not sure it's any of your business but if you really need to know, about 8 inches."
Thought on the side was listening/monitoring but that was 50 years ago, copy that ? Lol
68gtxman
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“Roger” was the phonetic for “R” in Morse code . It was short for “Received”, as in message has been received.
10 10 on the side aka listening/reading on the side 10 4 copy that
Think it comes from the military side of things. Roger (acknowledgement), That (what was just said), basically saying you understand and will act on what you were just told.
Personally the phrase annoys me, when I hear it I tell them I don’t know Roger or what “that” is..
Personally the phrase annoys me, when I hear it I tell them I don’t know Roger or what “that” is..
I was with Special Boat Team 22 and we used copy. I remember a E-7+ saying “ Who the **** is Roger!”. LOL
Well the Teams are like Airdales, the Navy band and Corpsman in that they do things their own way. They’ve adapted to what works best for them. Still pissed about all that training I had to go through thanks to Tail Hook!
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67Dart273
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I still remember laughing when the original "Cops" TV series came out. I think they were in FL at the time. The dispatcher would receive some info from the patrols and say "que-sell". Sort of slurred, I took some time to realize they were using the Q signal "QSL" which means "acknowledge receipt." There is a huge series of "Q" signals which were the original shorthand on Morse code landline, and later others were added for radio for ships at sea and aircraft. We amateurs use--over-use them. And many times use them in a stupid redundant manner. If I am using voice and say, "What's your QTH" what I have actually just said, is, "What is your what is your location?"
Q signals are great on CW (Morse) because they can either be a question or statement. If I send QTH ? BK that means "What is your location break" and you would come back with "QTH Coeur d Alene ID BK"
"Q" signals are also misused in ways such as "Are you running QRP? Which is a way of asking "are you running less than 5 watts transmitter power?" and funnier comebacks such as "Life is too short for QRP." QRP ACTUALLY was supposed to be used to ask "can you decrease transmitter power" and then "I will decrease power to XX" and so on. QRO is the opposite, "increase," and is also misused slang to mean that a person is running a high power amplifier.
Then there are the REALLY misused ones like "QBS". "Are you full of ****" Answer "Yes, R R, I am full of ****"
Or QLF which means "Your Morse is so bad, are you sending with your left foot?"
THAT one even made it into a flow chart in a Motorola manual. My boss and I were configuring a brand new (then) radio known as a (Motorola) Radius to take up to a hill for a temporary replacement for a customer, in order to bring a failed radio down for repair. He was having issues getting it programmed and configured (it's a repeater) and was reading the manual. Suddenly he laid over in his chair, laughing uncontrollably
The flow chart said something like
Symptom: "CW IDer is QLF"
Cause: "Operator is a LID"
This of course was an absolute joke by whoever wrote the manual.
Q signals are great on CW (Morse) because they can either be a question or statement. If I send QTH ? BK that means "What is your location break" and you would come back with "QTH Coeur d Alene ID BK"
"Q" signals are also misused in ways such as "Are you running QRP? Which is a way of asking "are you running less than 5 watts transmitter power?" and funnier comebacks such as "Life is too short for QRP." QRP ACTUALLY was supposed to be used to ask "can you decrease transmitter power" and then "I will decrease power to XX" and so on. QRO is the opposite, "increase," and is also misused slang to mean that a person is running a high power amplifier.
Then there are the REALLY misused ones like "QBS". "Are you full of ****" Answer "Yes, R R, I am full of ****"
Or QLF which means "Your Morse is so bad, are you sending with your left foot?"
THAT one even made it into a flow chart in a Motorola manual. My boss and I were configuring a brand new (then) radio known as a (Motorola) Radius to take up to a hill for a temporary replacement for a customer, in order to bring a failed radio down for repair. He was having issues getting it programmed and configured (it's a repeater) and was reading the manual. Suddenly he laid over in his chair, laughing uncontrollably
The flow chart said something like
Symptom: "CW IDer is QLF"
Cause: "Operator is a LID"
This of course was an absolute joke by whoever wrote the manual.
I've only heard "affirm" on wildland assignments. On the structural side, it's 100% "copy." We don't use 10 codes like "10-4" and certainly never say "roger."
10 -9 ? Lol
10 Codes were simple and effective if you knew them.
Oh, I agree, 10 codes are like using shorthand and cut way down on chatter. We just don't use them in the fire service. At least not in my area.
67Dart273
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Before I joined the Navy in 68 I was "radio operator" (dispatcher) for our local PD. Back then I think the town was maybe 3200 people. The assist. chief used to laugh at the mayor who insisted on having a car and a radio. He never needed it for anything at all, but sometimes I would catch him coming to work before I got off at 8AM, he'd call in "10-8". Silly
On a side note, the system was on low band VHF, somewhere around 38-39 Mhz. Half the country up here was on that same freq even though many of the agencies on it, also may have had other frequencies. There was us, the city of Sandpoint, the county sheriff, Bonner County, the sheriff to the North and that city, Boundry County and Bonners Ferry, and what little Priest River was on. Then across the river just past Priest River, in WA state, was Newport WA who also had that as one of their freqs, and Spokane County sheriff, who we could rarely hear. Then Coeur d Alene, where I now live, both city and Kootenai county were on that freq, as well as them having at least one other channel, and on the interstate is "Huetter" port of entry, and they and the Idaho State Police were on it as well. It was one big happy family, and if there was a little activity, and in rare cases a chase on the road, you could pretty well follow the progress
One thing many do not understand, is that low band VHF always used to propagate much better than up in the 150Mhz band and back there was very little on the 450Mhz band.
Back then I had a fair working knowledge of "10" signals but have forgotten most of them.
Our PD Chief examining the TTY. This was gone when I worked there. A lady who worked my job day shift before I worked there. I remember those mikes!!! We had TWO count them TWO phone lines into CITY HALL. This was TOTAL. Served the admin offices and the PD and emergencies!!! There was no 911 at that time.
And the old city hall. Dispatch was on the side to the left, just left of the walk in door that first window. Where the chief is, that window is into the passageway to that door. PD was a long narrow area along that passageway, and up against the fire dept garage further to the left. The last two windows to the left were in the fire dept section.
City admin offices were all along the front/ right section, and the city library was upstairs.
On a side note, the system was on low band VHF, somewhere around 38-39 Mhz. Half the country up here was on that same freq even though many of the agencies on it, also may have had other frequencies. There was us, the city of Sandpoint, the county sheriff, Bonner County, the sheriff to the North and that city, Boundry County and Bonners Ferry, and what little Priest River was on. Then across the river just past Priest River, in WA state, was Newport WA who also had that as one of their freqs, and Spokane County sheriff, who we could rarely hear. Then Coeur d Alene, where I now live, both city and Kootenai county were on that freq, as well as them having at least one other channel, and on the interstate is "Huetter" port of entry, and they and the Idaho State Police were on it as well. It was one big happy family, and if there was a little activity, and in rare cases a chase on the road, you could pretty well follow the progress
One thing many do not understand, is that low band VHF always used to propagate much better than up in the 150Mhz band and back there was very little on the 450Mhz band.
Back then I had a fair working knowledge of "10" signals but have forgotten most of them.
Our PD Chief examining the TTY. This was gone when I worked there. A lady who worked my job day shift before I worked there. I remember those mikes!!! We had TWO count them TWO phone lines into CITY HALL. This was TOTAL. Served the admin offices and the PD and emergencies!!! There was no 911 at that time.
And the old city hall. Dispatch was on the side to the left, just left of the walk in door that first window. Where the chief is, that window is into the passageway to that door. PD was a long narrow area along that passageway, and up against the fire dept garage further to the left. The last two windows to the left were in the fire dept section.
City admin offices were all along the front/ right section, and the city library was upstairs.
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As someone with 9600 Flying hours (mostly in C-130s) I can explain Roger and Wilco.
When you say "Roger" on the radio, that means you heard what the other person said and you understood it. So technically, when you say "Roger that", you are saying "I understand that".
Wilco is short for "Will Comply" When you say it on the radio, you are saying that you understood the directions you were given and that you will comply with them. For example, If Los Angeles Approach Control says, "Herky 49, descend and maintain 10,000 feet" You might say, "Wilco, Herky 49 descending to 10,000 feet." We actually did not say Wilco very much. We would usually repeat the instructions and say something like, "Roger, Herky 49 descending to 10,000 feet." There you go.
When you say "Roger" on the radio, that means you heard what the other person said and you understood it. So technically, when you say "Roger that", you are saying "I understand that".
Wilco is short for "Will Comply" When you say it on the radio, you are saying that you understood the directions you were given and that you will comply with them. For example, If Los Angeles Approach Control says, "Herky 49, descend and maintain 10,000 feet" You might say, "Wilco, Herky 49 descending to 10,000 feet." We actually did not say Wilco very much. We would usually repeat the instructions and say something like, "Roger, Herky 49 descending to 10,000 feet." There you go.
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