shouldn`t my stall be helping my time on the strip?

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i went to the track friday night and i run 8.56 8.57 8.57 8.64 and all of my 60 ft times are 1.90 to 2.10 i didn`t spin much at all.i just installed a new stall in the car a i was hoping for alittle out of the car.because the car was running the same times before i installed the stall. i don`t think that the stall is work what do yall think ? mark thanks
 
whats the set up ? what converter did you have and what do you have now ?
 
i have a 69 swinger in stock trim 360/727. i had a stock torque converter . the engine is a 30 over 360 a 274 extreme comp cam 1.5 roller rocker eddy heads . now same engine same trans with a 2800-3200 turbo actin stall and both converters had the same times
 
and did the converter say 2800-3200 behind a 360?

cause alot of times the stall speed you see is rated behind a 440....

and you end up with about 2500 at best...
 
17801b was the part number but it won`t but till 1100-1500 if it was 2400-2600 that is what they said it would stall to.because its not a drag car its just something i take to the track ever now and then
 
put the car in high gear and brake torque it and if you have a tach see when it starts to move. You got a company right there in Alabama that makes some good torque converters for Mopars, PTC Converters.
 
well it torques to 1100 rpm like the stock.i already talked to summit the day i 1st tried it out and they said that it won`t stall until i kick it ,but it spins just like the stock stall.if they they can`t get this one right they will get me another one .
 
Can you post your trap speeds with both the old and new converter?
 
so went you floor it what rpm does it flash too?

you bought a 3000 stall speed converter...does not mean you can power brake it to 3000 rpm...it will flash to that rpm....


turbo action shows it as 11 inch converter...stall speed for 360 is 2800 rpm...

Engine torque is a factor in determining stall speed of any converter. The listed stall speeds on our chart can only be approximate.
 
But would the stall still do better than the stock converter?because I was told by summit that it would somewhere between 2400_2600 which is what they and comp cam said I needed.but the thing don't stall
 
As you are finding out, torque converters aren't an exact science. Escpecially if you don't have a dyno sheet to guide a choice.

The 10" 3500 converter I have barely goes that behind a 410" SB. Behind a 360 it might not get above 3000rpm. you might need a 9.5" or 10" converter to get what you want.
 
Whats your compression ratio/ cyl psi, you are probably very week in cyl psi, or a bad match of parts or poor tuning, the stock 340 converters in a stock 340 were good for around 2K stall
 
A stock stall will go higher than 1100, is your secondarys opening, wheres the total timing at?
 
Your motor is not reaching its max torque rpm because of the stall will not go higher then 1100. If you want this thing to run alot better you need to get at least 3500-3800 stall for a small block this would probably get you 2500 on your motor. Remember the smaller diameter converter the less recipricating weight, which will increase torque. Sounds to me like you had the wrong converter and bought the exact same one you had. I run a 5500 stall and I occaisionally street drive it. An old trick we did to save money was put a 340 10" converter behind 440's. This would increase the stall 1000 rpm's. Who ever stated above that converters are checked with using the equasion of the torque of a big block is correct. For a small block to run good it should brake stall at no less then 2800, Looks to me like the converter you bought is a low stall for a truck used for towing. I would send it back and tell them you need a 10" converter for a big block that stall's between 3500-3800. you will then get the right converter. You will not believe the difference in the way the car runs . You'll think someone put a bigger engine in your car. An automatic car will not perform with less then 2800 stall with a stock cam. The bigger the cam the less the cranking pressure do to overlap. This moves the torque up in rpms , so you need to move the converter stall up with it. Converters are the biggest reason for lack of performance I have seen . Alot go to the tune which usually helps alittle . but the right converter really wakes a car up.
 
Should have gone with there standard 10"

The best way I have found to check flash stall is at a 3rd gear roll wack the gas and watch the tach. May be hard to do with out a manual valve body.
 
]I biggest problem with this is everyone said this the stall I needed.[/B]summit hasn't gotten back to me on what they are say about it


i for one know i didn't tell you that. i would have recommended calling ptc,dynamic and ultimate and have one built for your combo. off the shelf converters are a crap shoot and to trust what some clown says at summit is nuts.
 
Why am i the only one that doesn't think the converter is the problem. is your advance working? secondarys opening? whats your compression ratio? two converters that stall at 1100rpm,
 
Should have gone with there standard 10"

The best way I have found to check flash stall is at a 3rd gear roll wack the gas and watch the tach. May be hard to do with out a manual valve body.

Disconnect throttle position linkage, wire it back some at the trans and try it. Reconnect and good to go.
 
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