Sleeving 340 for a Stroker kit

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Newbomb Turk said:
You don’t leave the sleeve proud on a block that take a straight sleeve. Ever.
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I live in farm country, and have done a few 4 cyl Perkins diesels with protruding sleeves. They were straight sleeves, no flange or step . Some perkins do have flanged sleeves though.

Here is a pic. Not mine.

Edit, forgot to mention, these are dry sleeves.

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Newbomb Turk said:
Ok, I’ve set several hundred sleeves, probably closer to 500 and you never leave the sleeve proud unless it’s a sleeve with a hat on it.

The block the OP has doesn’t need a sleeve with the hat.


Edit: here’s the issue Steve. You don’t have a clue when you jump in a thread and talk about leaving the sleeve proud.

The OP does NOT have an aluminum block, nor is he using a a sleeve with the flange (hat) on it.

I get that you are rightly proud of your son but posting **** that is absolutely irrelevant to what the OP is asking just gets **** in people’s head. And then it needs to be corrected.

Just like right now.

So when someone asks about setting sleeves in an aluminum block then you can talk about protrusion.

In this case it’s wrong to even go there.
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Can anyone ever give some Information on a thread for conversation without criticism. I am sure the OP doesn't have an aluminum block 340.. I was just giving all some info that not even you knew.

This was your quote ending in "ever" wasn't it

"You don’t leave the sleeve proud on a block that take a straight sleeve. Ever." Well I guess you are wrong with "ever"

I am 70 years old and I myself am still learning. I would believe Steve before anyone . He installs sleeves in many different engines I have seen with outstanding results. Nitro/top fuel, Methanol, Aluminum Hemi's and the Chebies. After welding the blocks back together.

Steve is always surfing this site but never comments. He told me he doesn't have the time in the day for some of the nitwits so he leaves it to me. I have all the time in the world . LOL

Maybe this will help you relax. Lay back and have a cold one.

 
fishmens67 said:
Yes a sleeve will work with a 4.00" stroke, but unless it's to restore an original 340 for restoration purposes I wouldn't bother.
Bite the bullet and look for a 5.9 core and settle for a meager 8 less cubes.
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When you have .030 over pistons(4.070) and a crank with 340 mains it’s worth it to sleeve it.
 
I have 4 sleeves in my 418. Seems like with my H-beam rods, I did have to notch the bottom of the cyls for rod bolt clearance. Sleeves are not a problem.
 
matt030305 said:
Hey FABO, I was wondering if anyone has sleeved a 340 in preparation for a 416 Stroker kit. The machine shop was worried that the sleeve would not clear the 4 inch stroke that crank has. Has anyone sleeved a 340 and had any issues with it? Thanks!
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unbeleiveable that a machine shop would say that ...
 
Newbomb turd . I believe you called the shop and left a sarcastic message. Why didn't you answer your Phone . He called you back. Now he probably thinks your just another trouble maker from this site.

My first post was for the OP to call and asked Steve due to him being close to our location to do his block. He also has several 340 blocks available. Since we were discussing sleeves I only mentioned what he just showed me when I was there and he was doing sleeves in an aluminum block.

He called me after your message to him. Which your remarks were uncalled for, You must be a real a$$ 0. I sent him the thread. His answer was , Dad some old dogs you just can't teach new tricks. Guys like this should just keep doing Flat heads. There was some F-bombs in there but I didn't want to type them.

To the Op matt030305 Call the shop Ask for Steve Your not far He has others here getting the same stroker kits. He does them all the time. Visit him at the shop and then decide for yourself.
 
Oldmanmopar said:
Newbomb turd . I believe you called the shop and left a sarcastic message. Why didn't you answer your Phone . He called you back. Now he probably thinks your just another trouble maker from this site.

My first post was for the OP to call and asked Steve due to him being close to our location to do his block. He also has several 340 blocks available. Since we were discussing sleeves I only mentioned what he just showed me when I was there and he was doing sleeves in an aluminum block.

He called me after your message to him. Which your remarks were uncalled for, You must be a real a$$ 0. I sent him the thread. His answer was , Dad some old dogs you just can't teach new tricks. Guys like this should just keep doing Flat heads. There was some F-bombs in there but I didn't want to type them.

To the Op matt030305 Call the shop Ask for Steve Your not far He has others here getting the same stroker kits. He does them all the time. Visit him at the shop and then decide for yourself.
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I never called your shop. I won't ever call your shop. Before you accuse me of something you'd better be right.
 
Oldmanmopar said:
Can anyone ever give some Information on a thread for conversation without criticism. I am sure the OP doesn't have an aluminum block 340.. I was just giving all some info that not even you knew.

This was your quote ending in "ever" wasn't it

"You don’t leave the sleeve proud on a block that take a straight sleeve. Ever." Well I guess you are wrong with "ever"

I am 70 years old and I myself am still learning. I would believe Steve before anyone . He installs sleeves in many different engines I have seen with outstanding results. Nitro/top fuel, Methanol, Aluminum Hemi's and the Chebies. After welding the blocks back together.

Steve is always surfing this site but never comments. He told me he doesn't have the time in the day for some of the nitwits so he leaves it to me. I have all the time in the world . LOL

Maybe this will help you relax. Lay back and have a cold one.

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Let me know when you actually set a sleeve. Since the OP doesn't have an aluminum block the EVER still stands.

I know you love to come on here and act like you're a machinist but...

And I know a sleeve in an aluminum block needs to be proud. Or as you say, protruding. You think you know more than you do.
 
Newbomb Turk said:
Let me know when you actually set a sleeve. Since the OP doesn't have an aluminum block the EVER still stands.

I know you love to come on here and act like you're a machinist but...

And I know a sleeve in an aluminum block needs to be proud. Or as you say, protruding. You think you know more than you do.
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Post #16 "You don’t leave the sleeve proud on a block that take a straight sleeve. Ever." Your words not mine . Now all of a sudden its accept aluminum blocks. You didn't know and that's a fact. You got caught . You must have looked it up.

You know I wasn't referring to his 340 being aluminum. You were just being disrespectful about it. Like your the MAN

I was only forwarding some info some may not have known. I didn't know, That is why I asked Steve when I saw the block decked with no sleeves . Not even you knew going by your initial response. "EVER",

Listen , If You don't like my posts. Then why don't you just Troll on. Why worry about what others say if it doesn't concern you. For Gods sake you can't even spell protrude.
 
Oldmanmopar said:
Post #16 "You don’t leave the sleeve proud on a block that take a straight sleeve. Ever." Your words not mine . Now all of a sudden its accept aluminum blocks. You didn't know and that's a fact. You got caught . You must have looked it up.

You know I wasn't referring to his 340 being aluminum. You were just being disrespectful about it. Like your the MAN

I was only forwarding some info some may not have known. I didn't know, That is why I asked Steve when I saw the block decked with no sleeves . Not even you knew going by your initial response. "EVER",

Listen , If You don't like my posts. Then why don't you just Troll on. Why worry about what others say if it doesn't concern you. For Gods sake you can't even spell protrude.
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lol.
 
Oldmanmopar said:
What is the reason for the notch in the top of the bore prior to the sleeve?
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The 348 and 409 engines have cylinder heads that don't have a combustion chamber, kinda like a diesel. The chamber is the top part of the cylinder. The way it's designed, it has to have a valve relief in the block.
Here's Edelbrock's version. The stock one is similar.
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Here's a shot of the chambers in the block. You can see the reliefs for the exhaust valves.
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RustyRatRod said:
The 348 and 409 engines have cylinder heads that don't have a combustion chamber, kinda like a diesel. The chamber is the top part of the cylinder. The way it's designed, it has to have a valve relief in the block.
Here's Edelbrock's version. The stock one is similar.
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Here's a shot of the chambers in the block. You can see the reliefs for the exhaust valves.
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agreed, the head gasket face is not 90 degrees to the bore on those. :thumbsup:
 
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