Sleeving 340 for a Stroker kit

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The 348 and 409 engines have cylinder heads that don't have a combustion chamber, kinda like a diesel. The chamber is the top part of the cylinder. The way it's designed, it has to have a valve relief in the block.
Here's Edelbrock's version. The stock one is similar.
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Here's a shot of the chambers in the block. You can see the reliefs for the exhaust valves.
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Years back in 1971 I had a 61 impala conv. with a 348 Had the same valve covers. A friend had a 409 . Never saw one with the head off. Weird design
 
My 348 Impala was faster then my Dads 62 poly 318 plymouth. I sold the 61 Impala Conv. I couldn't afford a new roof after the rear window fell in. The engine always ran perfect.
 
I live in farm country, and have done a few 4 cyl Perkins diesels with protruding sleeves. They were straight sleeves, no flange or step . Some perkins do have flanged sleeves though.

Here is a pic. Not mine.

Edit, forgot to mention, these are dry sleeves.

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What method did you use to get them out? J.Rob
 
Sleeves don't protrude into the crankcase. They machine the bore for a sleeve leaving a step the bottom for the sleeve to stop against when it is installed. They bore almost to the bottom. Find yourself a new shop.
I had to sleeve this blown up DIRT engine last week. The DART SHP block has surprisingly short cylinders. I only left about .100" for the step on the major and minor thrust sides but the rest of the sleeve can be seen hanging below. It went surprisingly well--about .0025" interference fit. As stated heat the block/freeze the sleeve slides about halfway in nicely and then some light hammering with a thick aluminum puck drives it home. This is one of my least favorite operations-lol. J.Rob

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I had to sleeve this blown up DIRT engine last week. The DART SHP block has surprisingly short cylinders. I only left about .100" for the step on the major and minor thrust sides but the rest of the sleeve can be seen hanging below. It went surprisingly well--about .0025" interference fit. As stated heat the block/freeze the sleeve slides about halfway in nicely and then some light hammering with a thick aluminum puck drives it home. This is one of my least favorite operations-lol. J.Rob

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When done correctly like this you can't even tell a sleeve was installed.
 
In college we sleeved a Vega block. That was back in 73' and no one had done that yet, that we knew of. We went to the Aircraft shop and borrowed their big oven to heat the block and froze the sleeves with freon. Yep, R12. That was a long time before someone said it ate a hole in the ozone. Well if that was true, there is a huge hole right above the community college now. :lol: :lol: The sleeves literally dropped in to the stop.
 
What method did you use to get them out? J.Rob

I bored them till they were .015" wall, then used a small old dull flat screwdriver to start them peeling out. I have a block mounted VN 944 boring bar, so I had to use a file to level them with the deck first.
 
I bored them till they were .015" wall, then used a small old dull flat screwdriver to start them peeling out. I have a block mounted VN 944 boring bar, so I had to use a file to level them with the deck first.
You are right on the money with the peeling out part. No need to waste time boring first though. I use a very sharp .250" Dia, long ejector pin and just rip a line right up the middle. Super slick and easy. Probably have 6 removed from a 354 in 15-20 mins. Try it. J.Rob
 
I think the 409 is pretty cool. Weird, yes, but cool. For similar reasons I also like other engines of the era.

Ford FEs with the strange intake manifold that doubles as half of the valve cover gasket. Neato!

Any of the Cleveland 4v headed engines. Super cool.

Poly 318s are pretty cool too.

Max wedge high ports come to mind...
 
You are right on the money with the peeling out part. No need to waste time boring first though. I use a very sharp .250" Dia, long ejector pin and just rip a line right up the middle. Super slick and easy. Probably have 6 removed from a 354 in 15-20 mins. Try it. J.Rob

Thanks, I'll remember that for sure.
 
I think the 409 is pretty cool. Weird, yes, but cool. For similar reasons I also like other engines of the era.

Ford FEs with the strange intake manifold that doubles as half of the valve cover gasket. Neato!

Any of the Cleveland 4v headed engines. Super cool.

Poly 318s are pretty cool too.

Max wedge high ports come to mind...
427 ford Tunnel Port
 
I think the 409 is pretty cool. Weird, yes, but cool. For similar reasons I also like other engines of the era.

Ford FEs with the strange intake manifold that doubles as half of the valve cover gasket. Neato!

Any of the Cleveland 4v headed engines. Super cool.

Poly 318s are pretty cool too.

Max wedge high ports come to mind...
All are weird and different. Cool is the early Hemi's. I have a less than complete 241 Dodge. No why would they design a Hemi so small. And I thought my 273 was small. Like Ford's 221 v 8. Like the 273, it was a little screamer.

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One of my mom and dad's best friend's who were life time friend's frim way back in high school. Mr. Larry ran a 409 with the 6 2bbl Offy intake in a Tri Five Chevy. Still had lots of stuff so saw plenty of it. He also had old films 8mm? Of track runs at the Old Laplace, Louisiana Drag way.
Years back in 1971 I had a 61 impala conv. with a 348 Had the same valve covers. A friend had a 409 . Never saw one with the head off. Weird design
 
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All are weird and different. Cool is the early Hemi's. I have a less than complete 241 Dodge. No why would they design a Hemi so small. And I thought my 273 was small. Like Ford's 221 v 8. Like the 273, it was a little screamer.

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The daimler dart's 2.5 (158 cubic") hemi was even smaller. They said the took the design from triumph, but it looks more like a 1st generation hemi, and even named it the dart (until dodge objected), so probably trying to ride on coat tails
 
The 348 and 409 engines have cylinder heads that don't have a combustion chamber, kinda like a diesel. The chamber is the top part of the cylinder. The way it's designed, it has to have a valve relief in the block.
Here's Edelbrock's version. The stock one is similar.
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Here's a shot of the chambers in the block. You can see the reliefs for the exhaust valves.
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Ii ask steve if he ever did a 348 or 409. He did , I must have missed it. Must have been when I was laid up. I would have remembered that weird block.

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