SpeedMaster High Rise 4150 EFI Manifold for SmallBlock

[JoesEdge]

I didn't know until today that these even existed. I wondered if anyone has any experience with them.

They seem to be out of stock at the moment. Looks like a cost effective manifold to swap to EFI. Those stands appear as though they were meant for the factory Magnum intake fuel rails, but that's just a guess.

Here's the link: Mopar Chrysler Dodge SB 318 340 360 High Rise 4150 Manifold - Intake Manifolds - Air & Fuel Delivery

 

[360duster]

interesting….first time i see this. they advertise it as the super victor Counterpart, would be nice to see one in reality.

Michael

 

[gzig5]

Looks an awful lot like the SV intake Edelbrock is using on their Pro Flow 4 kit.

Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 EFI Systems 35900

 

[JoesEdge]

Looks an awful lot like the SV intake Edelbrock is using on their Pro Flow 4 kit.

Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 EFI Systems 35900

Yup, the site says it interchanges with Edelbrock's Super Victor 2815 which is odd because that part number is NOT their EFI model.

Edelbrock's EFI model for the small block Mopar is 28155

I'm actually interested in calling SpeedMaster to express interest in this part.

 

[MOPAROFFICIAL]

Out of stock.lol

 

[Bobzilla]

I never saw this before but on a google search it looks like someone asked on Facebook about it showing out of stock on Speedmaster's website. I don't have Facebook, but it appears that question had no response.
A place on ebay, from Austrailia, says they have more than ten available, but says they won't ship to USA.
The description implies it's a dual bolt pattern for LA and Magnum, but the one picture looks like LA only.
Interesting.

 

[68cuda408]

I use the SV intake. If using aluminum heads and non stock valve covers ,there are issues. Grinding of the injector bosses and upper valve cover flanges (depending on brand)will be required.one picture shows a cast cover not able to seat ,The fabbed covers had to be "notched" to clear the already clearanced injector bosses. Last pic shows minumum clearancing needed.I just replace the polished covers (cracked baffle welds) with Mr.G #6861bg fabbed black covers and they required the same treatment to fit.

 

[Rolling_Thunder]

I saw that intake a while back when I was looking for an EFI intake for my magnum swap -- but they were out of stock then too --- still are. I was always amazed at how pricy other companies make their EFI intake manifolds - it's crazy!

 

[JoesEdge]

I use the SV intake. If using aluminum heads and non stock valve covers ,there are issues. Grinding of the injector bosses and upper valve cover flanges (depending on brand)will be required.one picture shows a cast cover not able to seat ,The fabbed covers had to be "notched" to clear the already clearanced injector bosses. Last pic shows minumum clearancing needed.I just replace the polished covers (cracked baffle welds) with Mr.G #6861bg fabbed black covers and they required the same treatment to fit.

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@68cuda408 Thank you for the pictures of the Super Victor intake. That's good information to know!! Because of the SpeedMaster intake isn't available, then the Edelbrock intake will be the only way to go for multi-port EFI.

By any chance, do you have a more close up look at the valve covers and the injector bosses more up close showing what needed to be notched an how much? Thanks!!

 

[JoesEdge]

So I gave SpeedMaster a call yesterday and inquired about the intake. They told me that they don't have it in stock and they do not have an ETA at this time. Maybe, they need a reason to make more? I think interested parties should call in and ask about them. Maybe with enough calls, they'll ramp up production.

Here's SpeedMaster's contact information:

SpeedMaster
1101 W. Rialto Ave.
Rialto CA 92376, USA
(909) 605 1123

 

[68cuda408]

@68cuda408 Thank you for the pictures of the Super Victor intake. That's good information to know!! Because of the SpeedMaster intake isn't available, then the Edelbrock intake will be the only way to go for multi-port EFI.

By any chance, do you have a more close up look at the valve covers and the injector bosses more up close showing what needed to be notched an how much? Thanks!!

When I get in tonight,I'll take closer pics

 

[68cuda408]

When I get in tonight,I'll take closer pics

Here you go,I put a straight edge along the upper rail to show the gaps.Between the injector bosses and cover rails, I figure about a 1/4" total. Stamped covers would require considerably less. BTW a note on the "fabbed" covers now being sold by some of the bigger names (rebranded china products). I took these off to check the valves to find the welds broke holding the baffle in. the Mr.G set are identical in appearance ,measurement and weld placement. I'll be keeping an eye on them.

 

[JoesEdge]

Here you go,I put a straight edge along the upper rail to show the gaps.Between the injector bosses and cover rails, I figure about a 1/4" total. Stamped covers would require considerably less. BTW a note on the "fabbed" covers now being sold by some of the bigger names (rebranded china products). I took these off to check the valves to find the welds broke holding the baffle in. the Mr.G set are identical in appearance ,measurement and weld placement. I'll be keeping an eye on them.

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Thanks! Yup, I can see where it's been notched a little bit. You think this is only an issue on aluminum heads, or iron too? I'm running iron EQ heads.

 

[68cuda408]

Thanks! Yup, I can see where it's been notched a little bit. You think this is only an issue on aluminum heads, or iron too? I'm running iron EQ heads.

Not sure, I don't have any cast heads. The real issue is the close proximity of the injector bosses to the gasket rails.

 

[Christine&Rusty]

Looks an awful lot like the SV intake Edelbrock is using on their Pro Flow 4 kit.

Edelbrock Pro-Flo 4 EFI Systems 35900

I had missed this post, and even with Edlebrock RPM PERFORMER intake that had been mated to RPM PERFORMER 6017 heads on a 318 I had to-and must have missed it everytime-remove the valve covers.
I removed the fuel rails during the install, also. I am pretty sure I removed the rails because I didn't want them in any other condition than "brand new-undamaged" and also to check if they were telling the truth about 35 lb/hr injectors-and they were.
Here's what mine looks like next to the old wet intake.

The basics are it's the same as far as fitting. And yes, they look like they won't. And so much weight gone-is half the weight of the wet one or seems like it anyway.
Had 2 bolts that needed to be a little bit shorter and then feed them in as you drop it in. I had talked with someone at Edlebrock who wanted to know the particulars of what it was going on and he found one at Jegg's, was not my first choice to order from, but I wanted it-knew I would be waiting a while if I didn't...
The distributor is a little tight with the windshield wiper motor, about 3/8 of an inch clearance, kinda like the other on I took out.

 

[mygasser]

I never saw this before but on a google search it looks like someone asked on Facebook about it showing out of stock on Speedmaster's website. I don't have Facebook, but it appears that question had no response.
A place on ebay, from Austrailia, says they have more than ten available, but says they won't ship to USA.
The description implies it's a dual bolt pattern for LA and Magnum, but the one picture looks like LA only.
Interesting.

re the dual bolt pattern, the speedmaster 'rpm airgap copy' i bought had interchangeable ally bungs to get the right bolt angle. you can see the bolt holes are actually slots in the pic so i assume this uses a similar setup.

 

[B3RE]

A place on ebay, from Austrailia, says they have more than ten available, but says they won't ship to USA.

Kind of makes you wonder if there isn't some kind of patent violation against an American company, oh, like maybe Edelbrock. But, the Chinese would NEVER do that!

 

[Christine&Rusty]

I'm going to say the Eddy wasn't...as you see the one on the left-RFI, just behind the first set of intake tubes, the 3rd bolt back is right at the base of that there, and had to get a half inch shorter bolt and feed it and the one on the other side but at the start of the two intake tubes, pu them in and lowered it and adjusted them and started them so they would get a good bite. I'm convinced that Edlebrock is hard pressed to do something that nice for us guys who don't want junk and are willing to pay for quality, but when you make it easy, thats not quality, it's just easy and you paid for that too. They actually added more places to put things-almost identical in layout. I moved the temp sensor where the old sensor had been, and a water outlet went where it was-to the heater core. Oh, pic could help
PRE- EFI

After

It was an optical illusion that it's narrower, and in all reality it fills the same space, and it was a little odd to not be putting a tray in, the solid bottom actually pretty nice in some respects. For a minute or 2, I'm using the same air cleaner and my linkage needed a little grinding bending but worked out just fine.
Now with the internet and all there is a new top of the line products and Edlebrock is going to try to get as much of it as they can-been watching for quite a while-the Holley thing, reminds me of the ones we used to pull off and replace with dual plane intake, 4 bubble and dual point ignition and I could of had one of the Holley's for free. Free ain't good and good ain't free-replace the word free with the word cheap and it's all the same. And glad I passed, anyone can do the easy one like that, I would rather be satisfied with this one.

 

[pishta]

ill chime in with a pro-flow 1 LA 3526 intake. Big air gap, non existant valve cover rail overhang....thick gaskets or fabbed with narrow rails a must. No gaskets on this stand motor. under deconstruction....