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Planning for the carb rebuild. Thinking of going ahead and ordering a few different size jets ahead of time so I have them on-hand...

The 80457 comes standard with .066 jets...so maybe get a few sets down to .055 to play around with.
 
Doesn't matter if the free shipping cutoff is 20 or 200. I always seem to be a few $ under it. :BangHead:

I toss in a couple of things that I can always use. Added one more set of jets and 2 cans of degreaser this time

Good for them, I just spent an extra $32 to save $12 :realcrazy:
 


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2 cameras, 1 close to the launch site just a foggy gray blob until the candle lights :lol: The other may be up on Honda Ridge near SLC 6 good view from there.
 
Picked up a cordless chainsaw. Hoping the battery tires out before me. Think the wife will like it. Almost an hour and it should be charged. Then its time to go test it out. Dont care for the toy chain on it,but it should cut good enough.im not logging with it.
 
News. I had to call 911 for simone mom this morning. She fell. More soon...
 
News. I had to call 911 for simone mom this morning. She fell. More soon...

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Planning for the carb rebuild. Thinking of going ahead and ordering a few different size jets ahead of time so I have them on-hand...

The 80457 comes standard with .066 jets...so maybe get a few sets down to .055 to play around with.
Holley main jet numbers do not represent diameter. They represent flow rate. Changing the jets 2 sizes up or down will make a noticible change in AFR. I'd have to look up that list number but 66 PMJs are relatively small to begin with. Take it up cruising around 65 mph in top and you'll know if its too lean or not. Don't do this on a crowded road or some place you can't slow down and pull over.
 
Holley main jet numbers do not represent diameter. They represent flow rate. Changing the jets 2 sizes up or down will make a noticible change in AFR. I'd have to look up that list number but 66 PMJs are relatively small to begin with. Take it up cruising around 65 mph in top and you'll know if its too lean or not. Don't do this on a crowded road or some place you can't slow down and pull over.

Thank you Mattax

Yes, I'm working off of the Holley spec sheets and called their tech service line and explained my setup and driving style. They recommended their 58 (122-58 which is 0.057)

Primary main jet is a 122-64 according to the documentation. I'll know more when I break it down. I like to gather all the parts before taking things apart so I've not gotten into the carb yet.

I'm not much of a wrench turner but I do a lot of research :thumbsup:

Always, always, always appreciate the feedback and guidance from you guys. Please keep it coming

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Thank you Mattax

Yes, I'm working off of the Holley spec sheets and called their tech service line and explained my setup and driving style. They recommended their 58 (122-58 which is 0.057)

Primary main jet is a 122-64 according to the documentation. I'll know more when I break it down. I like to gather all the parts before taking things apart so I've not gotten into the carb yet.

I'm not much of a wrench turner but I do a lot of research :thumbsup:

Always, always, always appreciate the feedback and guidance from you guys. Please keep it coming
Whomever you talked with misled you. The diameter is not the final factor in the flow rate. Thats why some jets with different numbers have the same diameter. A lot of bad info out there - and some of it comes right from the manufacturer's "tech" people. :( The carbs that were decent to begin with are within a few jet sizes no matter what they get put on. Its the beauty of a carb - they respond to engine demand so supply what the engine wants.
 
Some peckerhead has been calling repeatedly,wont leave message. Im not answering as i prefer not to deal with him. He can’t be trusted. Besides, i have been sawing and hauling trees. But i cant lift my legs anymore. Tripping on nothing. And its hot.
Saw works better than i expected.
 
Whomever you talked with misled you. The diameter is not the final factor in the flow rate. Thats why some jets with different numbers have the same diameter. A lot of bad info out there - and some of it comes right from the manufacturer's "tech" people. :( The carbs that were decent to begin with are within a few jet sizes no matter what they get put on. Its the beauty of a carb - they respond to engine demand so supply what the engine wants.

OK cool...

I've come to sorta expect being an oddity because it all sits on top of a 225 slanty... I've read a lot of the threads on here concerning carburation on these (particularly 4bbl /6 setups). There's usually a fairly vigorous discussion that occurs :rolleyes: with opposing factions. I have some folks that I lean toward their opinions primarily. I'm not racing the car...it's a cruiser, mostly below 55 MPH.

Plan "A" is to go through the rebuild, clean everything really well and replace everything back as it is currently configured to see if the rich condition continues.

What I mean by "rich" is that I can smell gas in the engine compartment after returning into the garage (there are no leaks anywhere). I have also had some occasions where short term stops take a couple of turns to get the engine to crank (as if it's maybe flooded ??)

It does have electronic ignition.
 
Some peckerhead has been calling repeatedly,wont leave message. Im not answering as i prefer not to deal with him. He can’t be trusted. Besides, i have been sawing and hauling trees. But i cant lift my legs anymore. Tripping on nothing. And its hot.
Saw works better than i expected.

Just a thought...take a break. Power tools and tripping is No-Bueno.
 
Some peckerhead has been calling repeatedly,wont leave message. Im not answering as i prefer not to deal with him. He can’t be trusted. Besides, i have been sawing and hauling trees. But i cant lift my legs anymore. Tripping on nothing. And its hot.
Saw works better than i expected.
Get done what you can and rest when you need to.
 
Get done what you can and rest when you need to.
Yes. Im outta steam. I filled trailer once, hauled it and on 2nd load. Bending, and walking back and forth with sticks is whats wearing me out. I have been going steady since 7:30 so i think i have done pretty well.
 
OK cool...

I've come to sorta expect being an oddity because it all sits on top of a 225 slanty... I've read a lot of the threads on here concerning carburation on these (particularly 4bbl /6 setups). There's usually a fairly vigorous discussion that occurs :rolleyes: with opposing factions. I have some folks that I lean toward their opinions primarily. I'm not racing the car...it's a cruiser, mostly below 55 MPH.

Plan "A" is to go through the rebuild, clean everything really well and replace everything back as it is currently configured to see if the rich condition continues.

What I mean by "rich" is that I can smell gas in the engine compartment after returning into the garage (there are no leaks anywhere). I have also had some occasions where short term stops take a couple of turns to get the engine to crank (as if it's maybe flooded ??)

It does have electronic ignition.
If you smell fuel - as in gasoline like when you fill the tank - that's not running rich - that's fuel escaping before it goes into the cylinders.

Electronic ignition - irrelivant.
As far as opinions, I thought TMM's meme yesterday pretty much summed it up.
Of course you have no easy way to judge if anything I say is experience based on facts.
The carb doesn't know if its a 225 cid six or a 273 v-8.
All it does is respond to the velocity of the air mass through the booster.
Describing the main system here, the low speed system is a bit more sensitive.

Changing the main jets is mostly to change the high speed cruise. That's usually above 60 mph but will vary with gearing and engine.
Its also done at the drag strip for WOT in top gear but that's because its convenient. Often the carb is a calibrated that works out nearly perfectly. However it doesn't always, depending on the engine efficiency at part throttle. If one needs to adjust the fuel mixture at just WOT+heavy load, then its the power valve circuit that needs to be enriched or restricted.
 
that's not running rich - that's fuel escaping before it goes into the cylinders.

So what should I be looking for in this instance?

As far as opinions, I thought TMM's meme yesterday pretty much summed it up.
:lol:

Of course you have no easy way to judge if anything I say is experience based on facts.

I have a very high confidence level of the information I receive in here. Доверяй, но проверяй, "Trust but verify" as they say....

Changing the main jets is mostly to change the high speed cruise.

So I should stick with what is in there and assess from there is what I'm gathering here. Perhaps other areas of the system are to be considered...timing etc. (??)
 
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