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@Ddaddy i feel your pain, my company laid off 60 percent of the team then increased the amount of stuff to do by 75 percent and are wondering why we are falling behind. To the point that I have the main boss sitting behind me one day this week to help find away to speed up our processes. But if they'd just listen to me and fix the damn program errors in how the software interacts(they estimated it'd take 5-8 man hours to track down the error in the coding and 30 minutes to rewrite it) then it's literally cut that 75 percent increase by half. We're getting work orders for stuff that doesn't need done or that has been done already because the system isn't removing it like it should.

But no, they wanna investigate dumb ****
 
Very true, but it is true as well.

I just want her to be a responsible young adult and she isnt being that person yet... I have to let her figure it out, I just have to figure out how.
The flip side is that if she fails...she fails...but it isn't fatal. When she gets to repeat a grade (or is forced into Summer school to make up the work) because of her own doing, it will sober her up fast.

Sometimes you have to let the small disasters happen now to avoid the bigger ones later.

I call it 'controlled failure" and I let my daughter experience it regularly just so she gets the concept that the net isn't always there...so she better pay attention to what she's doing on the high-wire of life.
 
Very true, but it is true as well.

I just want her to be a responsible young adult and she isnt being that person yet... I have to let her figure it out, I just have to figure out how.
Honestly, this is a crazy idea but try letting her stand on her own 2 feet. IE sit her down and let her make up her own rules for herself within reason of course and then come to an understanding of the consequences of failing to meet those rules.

like I said, crazy idea but who knows
 
The flip side is that if she fails...she fails...but it isn't fatal. When she gets to repeat a grade (or is forced into Summer school to make up the work) because of her own doing, it will sober her up fast.

Sometimes you have to let the small disasters happen now to avoid the bigger ones later.

I call it 'controlled failure" and I let my daughter experience it regularly just so she gets the concept that the net isn't always there...so she better pay attention to what she's doing on the high-wire of life.

Well spoken!

I can just see the problem being with her mom and defending her actions and then having a reason she cant go to summer school or some **** like that.. Im trying not to worry about something that hasnt happened yet, but its tough
 
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Hola!

Honestly, this is a crazy idea but try letting her stand on her own 2 feet. IE sit her down and let her make up her own rules for herself within reason of course and then come to an understanding of the consequences of failing to meet those rules.

like I said, crazy idea but who knows

Great idea, if she lived with me. Now that she lives with her mom I have no say.
 
sure - but if you fight it, it'll just be harder in the long run.. kids really are different these days
Yes they are, well most. Honestly, it's because of the lack of hard work, my kids will both be baling hay at the age of 5, and working the animals, the hard way. They can still do the fun stuff if they earn it.
 
Well spoken!

I can just see the problem being with her mom and defending her actions and then having a reason she cant go to summer school or some **** like that.. Im trying not to worry about something that hasnt happened yet, but its tough
She or her mom won't have a choice on summer school. The only thing you have to watch is the age of drop out that the state allows, Indiana, the law is 17 and 6 months of age before self drop out
 
@Ddaddy i feel your pain, my company laid off 60 percent of the team then increased the amount of stuff to do by 75 percent and are wondering why we are falling behind. To the point that I have the main boss sitting behind me one day this week to help find away to speed up our processes. But if they'd just listen to me and fix the damn program errors in how the software interacts(they estimated it'd take 5-8 man hours to track down the error in the coding and 30 minutes to rewrite it) then it's literally cut that 75 percent increase by half. We're getting work orders for stuff that doesn't need done or that has been done already because the system isn't removing it like it should.

But no, they wanna investigate dumb ****
I hear you. In my case, I am the main boss for these guys and they are better than this. I told them today "Ignorance is a condition, but stupidity is a choice." Then I pointed out to them that they made the choice to suddenly be stupid causing all the issues today. I sent them home at the end of the day with one instruction.

Tomorrow morning you will each tell me how YOU are going to fix what went wrong and make sure it doesn't happen again. No blame of others, no stepping past your area of responsibility...and NO excuses. Tell me how YOU are going to get better and help fix the problem.
 
I hear you. In my case, I am the main boss for these guys and they are better that this. I told them today "Ignorance is a condition, but stupidity is a choice." Then I pointed out to them that they made the choice to suddenly be stupid causing all the issues today. I sent them home at the end of the day with one instruction.

Tomorrow morning you will each tell me how YOU are going to fix what went wrong and make sure it doesn't happen again. No blame of others, no stepping past your area of responsibility...and NO excuses. Tell me how YOU are going to get better and help fix the problem.
Hell I'll come work for you, just tell me what needs to be done and the tools to do it and I'll figure it out lol
 
She or her mom won't have a choice on summer school. The only thing you have to watch is the age of drop out that the state allows, Indiana, the law is 17 and 6 months of age before self drop out

True, she wont have a say on it, but she will have a reason why she cant bring her there or some **** like that.. MN is the age of 16 I believe.
 
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