My buddy distills that one. He got in a huge brawl (legal) over that label. But I would argue it is one of his best products. He also does what I call a brown gin that is just plain yummy. I think he labels it Minions. Ages it in oak. It does not really taste like gin but that is what he calls it. If you want to check him out google Proof Distillery in Fargo. He is a super good guy. And he makes fine product. Great call taking that Fred! He competes world wide and has several awards for his products. High quality for sure.