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Its obviously your assertion that everyone needs after market aluminum heads to make any power at all right......But some how magically some mange to do it with out those.
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Its obviously your assertion that everyone needs after market aluminum heads to make any power at all right......But some how magically some mange to do it with out those.
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Maybe ask GTX John who stated his car does it over on Class Racer how he manages to do it. Maybe while your there you can tell all those other class racers they need big ported heads to move enough air to run the numbers?
Here's what John had to say on the matter:
So the question is very simple does the head move enough air to make the power?
Its a YES or NO proposition is it not. If you think it cant be done say so. If you think that a port that's only 125 cc cant flow 200 cfm and make power man up and tell everyone it can't be done. Surely you're confident to do that.
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One of my favorite parts about this thread.. ...is... where he wants to take and turn the street Master into a street dominator... instead of just buying a street dominator. More eye-rolling statements.
PRH
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The question I have is.........
If everyone posting on this thread just agreed that a streetmaster 318 intake and a set of untouched 302 heads was absolutely, positively....... THE red hot combo for 11 second ET’s in a 4000lb barge.........
Would the whole WWW just implode on itself??
If everyone posting on this thread just agreed that a streetmaster 318 intake and a set of untouched 302 heads was absolutely, positively....... THE red hot combo for 11 second ET’s in a 4000lb barge.........
Would the whole WWW just implode on itself??
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Obviously? Incorrect. Only in your eyes.
Now your just being silly and trying to be inflammatory.
I’m not asking GTX John anything, I’m asking you here and now how you do it.
I’m also not telling a class racer anything.
Running ported heads just makes it easier to make more power. Since certain classes of racing say no ported heads, than that’s the way it is. They go for being efficient. I get that.
Is the head ports stock, untouched?
Not! Not from where I sit is it a yes or no question.
See my above question.
To “Man up?”, this discussion requires nothing to man up about. I’m not arguing anything yet. I am asking questions.
I’ll say this outright, if the head is dead stock, then as I type away right now, I have no idea how to do it.
Could I figure it out? IDK! I’ll just say I’m not interested in trying but hearing what others do and how they went about it is always interesting and welcomed.
Now you said GTX John went 11’s in a 4,000lbs ride using 302 heads.
I think that’s cool. I would assume there ported, but if there not, even better. I’d like to know how it was done though I don’t think I’ll ever hear or see a class racer talk & type about there stuff ever.
Now can you define power finally?
I guess if I ever feel the need to purge, I'll come read this thread. It'll make me wanna puke after the first page.
If the ports aren’t horribly undersized at the flange, I’m going to modify the one I pictured. The plenum wouldn’t be half the volume of a street dominator once opened. I have a friend that wants to put a four barrel on a stock 273. If the runner dividers aren’t a 1/4 inch thick, it may even have a chance of making more power than the stock 2 barrel intake. Design wise, it would be a 1/3 scale Weiand Xcellerator without the height. I’ll know how big of a steaming pile it is after I attack it with a hole saw and see what is after the plenum.
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Soooo. I put a low mile '88 "roller cam" motor in a 69 I have. The 2bbl carb was leaking and I had a good 600 edelbrock I wanted to put on. I also had a 318 streetmaster kicking around i got for nothing. So I stuck that suckered on there threw a small cam in it and?????????
Unfortunately no 11 sec time slips
No 12's,no 13's not even any 14's!
The thing falls on it's face right about 4800-5000. It's even got "big" 360 exhaust manifolds on it.
The cam i put in with " performance oriented " parts should pull to about 5500.(I think, can't remember the exact specs it's a regrind I bought a long time ago. 218@50 
I think)
So. What does it do good? I think exactly what the the 318 streetmaster intake and 302 heads were designed to do. Excellent gas mileage, good throttle response. The car is a dream to drive around town but not a 1/4 mile beast.
If I win the lottery I will pay somebody $10000 to port those 302's into some special unicorn head and do wheel stands all the way down the quarter busting off 11's(or 10's it is a roller cam motor )
Unfortunately no 11 sec time slips
No 12's,no 13's not even any 14's!
The thing falls on it's face right about 4800-5000. It's even got "big" 360 exhaust manifolds on it.
The cam i put in with " performance oriented " parts should pull to about 5500.(I think, can't remember the exact specs it's a regrind I bought a long time ago. 218@50
I think)So. What does it do good? I think exactly what the the 318 streetmaster intake and 302 heads were designed to do. Excellent gas mileage, good throttle response. The car is a dream to drive around town but not a 1/4 mile beast.
If I win the lottery I will pay somebody $10000 to port those 302's into some special unicorn head and do wheel stands all the way down the quarter busting off 11's(or 10's it is a roller cam motor )
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Here are HIS words again.
Sorry but ported or not that is IMPRESSIVE for a 318 . Just not for you and the rest of the clowns here because you guys are all superstars and know everything.
Jeff @ Modern Cylinder Heads went as far as saying his would make 500 HP and that was with a 125 cc port from memory.
Who would have thought a 125 cc port could make power........I must be the only person in the world deluded enough to think a ported 302 could run 11's..........Oh wait some one's already doing it with less cubes, less comp, less port volume and less cam lift and more weight. **** the major mismatch between the head and manifold is a dead give away to the size of the port. Since you're the appointed Mopar Guru here maybe you could tell him what he's doing wrong........
Slantsix64
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i got that cheap magnum air gap, everyone hates. I love it no complaints
Sorry, not interested in his words.
Interested in yours and your car.
Impressive for a 318? By your standards? Don’t worry about my standards or what YOU think I’m impressed by or should be. I also would like if you didn’t call me a “Super Star.” There’s no way I could accept that moniker. You seem to want the title pretty bad.
There is a huge difference in stock and ported heads.
“I’m the appointed MoPar guru?” LMAO!
I don’t know where you get that from!
No thanks on the title!
Like I stated before, and wonder why you would state,
After I said just a post or so prior that I don’t know how they do it, why would you say that again and keep pushing what is only an issue in your head? It’s not an issue here as much as you try to make it one.
Like I said earlier, IDK how they do it but I’d like to know even though they will never tell. But you brag a lot, how did you do yours?
Instead of instigating and twisting words, shoving labels and etc….
Try to contribute instead.
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He's only mad because ...NO BODY CARES
This has been
This has been
No, not that! Let it ride. It’s really just “John” worship.
Hahahaha..............Chester.
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He's only mad because ...NO BODY CARES
This has been
The point of the whole thread for him was to trap people via word twist and reversal and accusations while throwing stones not answering questions and flipping while maintaining a narrative that narrow path only broadened by himself (moving goal posts) and then name calling, redirecting and being inflammatory.
All of this has been well displayed and is really his only way he seems to post up here on FABO.
Notice how he keeps pushing guru, twice on me on this page alone. While I’m trying to have an adult conversation, he resorts back to idiotic ways of wording and name calling. This we all see. I’m sure he’ll twist this post up well with a wacko point of view.
Well, this has been a real
show.I’m out. I’m also sure he’ll post something really good….. Someday….
Im going back to the normal people of the forum.
AMF!
So Kitty made me this kickass buffalo chicken dip last night off a Frank's hot sauce bottle. She spruced up the recipe her own way like she always does. Dammit dat chit was good. I think I'm gonna heat some up fer lunch.
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Why? It because they agree with mine.......
He contributed what he has been able to do but you and the others here didn't like it because again it doesn't support your argument. Its obviously embarrassing for some of the people here to accept.
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He's only mad because ...NO BODY CARES
This has been
16 pages and noboby cares........
Looks like the beginning of an adult conversation!
Here is where your wrong, please point out to the world where I personally said in this thread that it can’t be done.
I know it can be done since I have investigated this venue and spoke with a few class racers and have seen GTX Johns post and do not doubt it. Even more so since I can not refute it. After some investigation, I decided not to travel this route.
You write “It is obviously embarrassing” which actually only applies to yourself at this moment. Here you are shoving words into my mouth, again, under moving goal posts while including me with those that do not understand what is possible.
Shame on you!
The only thing I didn’t like is your posts and words. Grow up and act like an adult for heavens sake! Please! Stop acting like a little Karen!
Obviously you can’t accept that and your inability to properly comprehend what you read.
I’ll reply back when you start showing YOUR ride that has 302 heads and runs like all get out. As well as answer the questions out to you.
Until then, your just being a big assed fly in the ointment!
Good day to you.
Here is where your wrong, please point out to the world where I personally said in this thread that it can’t be done.
I know it can be done since I have investigated this venue and spoke with a few class racers and have seen GTX Johns post and do not doubt it. Even more so since I can not refute it. After some investigation, I decided not to travel this route.
You write “It is obviously embarrassing” which actually only applies to yourself at this moment. Here you are shoving words into my mouth, again, under moving goal posts while including me with those that do not understand what is possible.
Shame on you!
The only thing I didn’t like is your posts and words. Grow up and act like an adult for heavens sake! Please! Stop acting like a little Karen!
Obviously you can’t accept that and your inability to properly comprehend what you read.
I’ll reply back when you start showing YOUR ride that has 302 heads and runs like all get out. As well as answer the questions out to you.
Until then, your just being a big assed fly in the ointment!
Good day to you.
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That's YOU didn't like MY words..... Not the facts I presented nor what those facts imply. Guess you're just not big enough to see past what's said as opposed to who said it. Truth is truth irrespective of whom it comes from.
No need to as GTX John's 302 heads already prove that.
Correct! Finally! But not in what you assert!
It’s your idiotic words.
Not the facts.
Truth manipulated with moving goalposts!
I’m not worried about what GTX J has done.
I just want to take the time to say thanks for proving me right and showing the form exactly what I said would happen. Truly, you have lost. You are lost. Maybe one day you’ll come around. I doubt it, but, you never know. Sometimes, people do grow up!
Thanks once again for not being able to prove what I asked of you and miss reading and misconstruing what I said which was plain and simple. Reading comprehension is not your strong point! I think like a child is. Moving goal post, trying to shove your words and assertions and twisting everybody’s words is your forte. Once again proven quite well.
for sure! I am now truly 100% out since you cannot do anything asked of you or prove anything given to you to prove. Once again you are proving yourself a complete waste of time in cyberspace. This was a minor entertainment at best. Making yourself look like a true asshole is a gift you have that you should lose.
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