Those Running 3.73 And a TF w/ LockUp.. What's your highway Driving Like?

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I am also 71. My POS Dakota with 3/4 V8, auto OD trans, 3.55 gear and 235/75-15 tires is reving right about 2000RPM at 100kph or 62 MPH.
Thatt thing got the beer-keg on it? Which would make it a 9/1 injected torque brute, lol.
By the math, that would be 1985 rpm, lol.
I'm sortof looking for one of those; an early boxy regular cab/2wd/swb, one, with a reasonable body, to transfer my HotRod 367 into, which won't die.
I had a '92, with a 5.2M/A518/3.91s; which I really loved, until it abandoned me. She wrecked herself with me in it, on black-ice. had a new posi in it too, lol. I sort miss her.
 
3000 rpms is going to drive you crazy when you've been used to driving vehicles with overdrive.

Tom
Went ahead and grabbed a set of 3.23s.. I think I can deal with them. Previously I was running right around 2600 @ 70 with 2.7s and a 26" tall tire (lockup wasn't working right) and it didn't bother me. Now the trans is built up a bit and the lockup should be golden. So I should be in the same ballpark with the 23s
 
Thatt thing got the beer-keg on it? Which would make it a 9/1 injected torque brute, lol.
By the math, that would be 1985 rpm, lol.
I'm sortof looking for one of those; an early boxy regular cab/2wd/swb, one, with a reasonable body, to transfer my HotRod 367 into, which won't die.
I had a '92, with a 5.2M/A518/3.91s; which I really loved, until it abandoned me. She wrecked herself with me in it, on black-ice. had a new posi in it too, lol. I sort miss her.
if it weren't for the absolutely asinine smog laws here in cali, i'd be rocking a late 80's early 90's dakota cab and 1/2 eight ways from sunday.

love those boxy boys!
 
I am also 71. My POS Dakota with 3/4 V8, auto OD trans, 3.55 gear and 235/75-15 tires is reving right about 2000RPM at 100kph or 62 MPH.
that doesn't seem right. my old '86 5th ave with 3.55's, 42RH (.69OD and lockup) with 255/50R17 (27" tall) was 2000 RPM at 65/66 and 2150@70. your tires are almost 2" taller. it should put 2k rpm right at 70...
 
Went ahead and grabbed a set of 3.23s.. I think I can deal with them. Previously I was running right around 2600 @ 70 with 2.7s and a 26" tall tire (lockup wasn't working right) and it didn't bother me. Now the trans is built up a bit and the lockup should be golden. So I should be in the same ballpark with the 23s
the math with a 225/70/14 (26.4" tall) no slip (lockup) and 3.23's works out to 2900 RPM for 70MPH. it's a ford rear, right? I would've gone with 3.08's, would've got you a cruise RPM of ~2750.
 
the math with a 225/70/14 (26.4" tall) no slip (lockup) and 3.23's works out to 2900 RPM for 70MPH. it's a ford rear, right? I would've gone with 3.08's, would've got you a cruise RPM of ~2750.
I'm not gonna sweat it.. The debate is never ending. Talked with several hemi swap guys and 9 outta 10 love the 3 23 with the swap. 90% of my drive time is 20 miles or less. And ya know, if I hate it.. I'll just swap them over next winter. Thanks for the opinion tho.

Funny thing is if I would've got 3.08...somebidy would've said "o no, you should've got 2.23s" lol.
 
I'm not gonna sweat it.. The debate is never ending. Talked with several hemi swap guys and 9 outta 10 love the 3 23 with the swap. 90% of my drive time is 20 miles or less. And ya know, if I hate it.. I'll just swap them over next winter. Thanks for the opinion tho.

Funny thing is if I would've got 3.08...somebidy would've said "o no, you should've got 2.23s" lol.

Can you even buy a new set of 3.08 gears? Seems like I looked awhile ago and places like Randy's stopped (started?) at 3.2x.
 
that doesn't seem right. my old '86 5th ave with 3.55's, 42RH (.69OD and lockup) with 255/50R17 (27" tall) was 2000 RPM at 65/66 and 2150@70. your tires are almost 2" taller. it should put 2k rpm right at 70...
I was on the highway yesterday and watched closely as I kept it right on 100kph which is 62mph. It was just over 1900 RPM, and 110kph which is really close to 70mph was about 2000RPM.
 
Can you even buy a new set of 3.08 gears? Seems like I looked awhile ago and places like Randy's stopped (started?) at 3.2x.

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Must have been the next ratio down.

A quick look on the Randy's Ring and Pinion site does show a 3.08, but you are out of luck for a 2.73. And a quick search on Strange's website shows the tallest there is 3.31.

I know it was just an idle curiosity so I wasn't looking hard for them. It only mattered if I went to an A8, while the T56 I have will work with either a 3.55 or 3.73 depending on which size rear tire I settle on. So I have it pretty easy.
 
planning on getting a ranger rear to replace my small bolt pattern 7 1/4". my car currently has 3.23's with an A833OD and 26" tall tires. it feels most comfortable cruising at about 62-63, and 70 is starting to feel a bit buzzy. I'd like to get it to feeling about right at 70. first choice for me is a JY rear with 3.08's, 2nd choice 3.27
 
Most of the Mopar gears are about 9% change between them, except 3.73s, which are 5% up from 3.55s, and 4.8% up to the 3.91s, so about a half a step. And so, it is the one gear that I have never actually run..

In the Mopar manual trans game, the gears are about 39% spread apart which equals about 4 rear gears
What I mean is this;
2.76 x 2.66 Low = 7.34 Roadgear, whereas
3.73 x 1.92 Second= 7.16
and from 2.76s to 3.73s is 35%, pretty close.

In the Mopar Auto trans game , the convertor acts as an infinitely variable ratio between about 1.1 and 1.8 or a lil more, making it act like; a deep low, fully independent gear. For example, at zero mph your 2.45 gear will act like a 4.40 low gear. However this TM(Torque-Multiplication) immediately begins to change as a function of two things, 1) the amount of torque entering the convertor on it's input side, and/or 2) the amount of resistance that the load is presenting on it's output side. So then, as soon as the car starts to move, the TM ratio is declining, whereas, if engine Torque is simultaneously increasing, then the Ratio is increasing. These two conspire together so that at the top of first gear the TM ratio may still be close to 1.3ish, making your A904 ratio act like a 3.19. and/or your 3.23s acting like 4.20s, one or the other, the engine doesn't care.

This gives you a way to understand what acceleration will feel like between any 3 to 4 pumpkins apart, and to estimate those in between.

What this also means, is that you can estimate how much more torque it will take to feel like you had the next bigger size rear gear.
Say you start out with a 318, an A904 auto, 2.76s and you are thinking of getting some 3.23's. Well from 2.76 to 3.23 represents a torque multiplication factor of plus 17%. So if you can get a torque increase of plus 17% from your engine, this will achieve the very same result without the cruise-rpm penalty.
To get such a torque increase is reasonable easy, if not always cheap. Your choices are;
1) 17% more cubes, or
2) 17% more engine torque
3) or a combination of the two.

#1 leads to 372 cubes,
#2 leads to a higher stall convertor; or more cylinder pressure. More cylinder pressure leads to a higher Scr requirement, an earlier-closing intake valve event, greater air thruput, or supercharging. The cheapest of all of these is a Higher stall convertor. But that is mostly only helpful in First gear, and/or the bottom of Second gear.

Of course, you can always install a lower first gear, into your A904 trans, or just pick up an A998/999. Mopar has available, a 2.74low which is almost 12% greater, leaving you with a shortfall of just 5% . and you can get that in one of the other ways, and again, the higher-stall is the way to go.
To recap:
in this case, swapping to a 2.74 low, and more stall, can easily get you that 17% low-gear performance increase, without the penalty of the higher cruise rpm. But, that same trans that carries the 2.74 low, also comes with a 1.54 Second gear which is 6.2% better than the 1.45 stocker. By adding a lil more stall than "normal", you can carry your 318 performance increase into Second gear as well. And if you pay attention, the A999 comes with a lock-up, that will reduce your cruise rpm, up to about 150 rpm.
And finally is;
the A500/A518 overdrive, which opens up a whole new exciting world for the 318. Especially for a streeter, that is usually limited to just two gears before getting into speeding territory. In this case, you can gear the car to rev out, at or a lil past, the power peak, at or near 60 mph.This works out to about 3.91s, depending on your combo, and the .69od will reduce the 3.91s to 2.70s, the best of all worlds for a streeter. and Because this combo is now running so much TM, it no longer needs the high-stall.
Now your problem becomes one of tuning, to give the engine the ignition advance that it will be begging for.
With 2.70s, 65 in loc-up becomes ~2200, and your combo may be asking for 56 degrees or more. That's gonna be a new challenge for you.
 
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IIRC, my old 5th ave with 3.55s and a 42RH and 27" tires, I had my ignition curve set with about 38 degrees all in by 2000-2200, plus vaccuum advance. cruised great at 70-75
 
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