Trick Flow 440 heads, The Real Deal?

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This might seem like a dumb question but what plugs do you use with these heads? When I looked it up on TrickFlow's site they state "Autolite #3924". When I look that plug up it looks like the same plug used for 318 magnum heads (93 Dakota 318 for example). Is this correct?
 
charger426 said:
This might seem like a dumb question but what plugs do you use with these heads? When I looked it up on TrickFlow's site they state "Autolite #3924". When I look that plug up it looks like the same plug used for 318 magnum heads (93 Dakota 318 for example). Is this correct?
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Yeah, the 3/4" reach 5/8" socket plugs.
 
440outlawdart said:
.........what would be the advantage to belt drive over gear and chain drives?
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I was always under the impression that the belt drive reduced unwanted harmonics in the valvetrain.

Also a chain, no matter how perfect, could still have some microscopic slop and not be as accurate.

This could affect the integrity of the ignition timing and cause spark scatter......Wrong?
 
Old Man Mopar said:
Andy, Can I inquire what valve springs you intend to use and on what camshaft?
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I'm using the stock Trick Flow valve springs right out of the box. Cam is 271 at 050 with .460 lobe lift so gross valve lift is 0.690 with the 1.50 rocker arms.

Trick Flow says the springs are good to .700 lift so I put a .700 lift cam in it. I did swap out the Ti retainers for a set of steel retainers so the flat damper wouldn't chew up the Ti. So far I don't see any problems at 7000 rpm with the steel retainers.
 
Have those square voids in the deck surface caused any leaks? Do you guys just fill them with epoxy, or just leave them as is?
 
how did the motor perform andyf? :blob: and i know of the subject if you still make those lightweight brake brackets to use wil wood calipers shoot me a pm thanks
 
AndyF said:
I'm using the stock Trick Flow valve springs right out of the box. Cam is 271 at 050 with .460 lobe lift so gross valve lift is 0.690 with the 1.50 rocker arms.

Trick Flow says the springs are good to .700 lift so I put a .700 lift cam in it. I did swap out the Ti retainers for a set of steel retainers so the flat damper wouldn't chew up the Ti. So far I don't see any problems at 7000 rpm with the steel retainers.
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Which rocker arm are you using?
 
I used 1.50 rocker arms from RAS. They are the stainless steel investment cast rocker arms. One of the nicest rocker arms ever made for a BB Mopar but I don't think they are available anymore.
 
345man2 said:
how did the motor perform andyf? :blob: and i know of the subject if you still make those lightweight brake brackets to use wil wood calipers shoot me a pm thanks
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The 470 works great, revs like chainsaw. The crankshaft is a SCAT superlight with all of the tricks and you can really tell the difference.

I don't sell brake parts anymore. I got rid of that part of the business a few years back.
 
AndyF said:
The 470 works great, revs like chainsaw. The crankshaft is a SCAT superlight with all of the tricks and you can really tell the difference.

I don't sell brake parts anymore. I got rid of that part of the business a few years back.
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Had a chance to dyno it yet? Curious how it compares to the Edelbrock, Stealth, and Sidewinder heads.
 
Just incase anyone is wondering TrickFlow responded to a post I made on their Facebook today stating their matching intake will be released around February.
 
charger426 said:
Just incase anyone is wondering TrickFlow responded to a post I made on their Facebook today stating their matching intake will be released around February.
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Just an rb version or will they have a b version as well?
 
thanks andyf i was wondering,, that 470 sounds like a a real impressive build, keep us posted on it
 
AndyF said:
I used 1.50 rocker arms from RAS. They are the stainless steel investment cast rocker arms. One
of the nicest rocker arms ever made for a BB Mopar but I don't think they are available anymore.
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No kidding! RAS (Rocker Arm Specialists). I have been looking everywhere for those things.


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AndyF said:
I did swap out the Ti retainers for a set of steel retainers so the flat damper wouldn't
chew up the Ti. So far I don't see any problems at 7000 rpm with the steel retainers.
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I was reading where if you dress the sharp edges of the flat dampers where they contact
the bottom of the Ti retainer that they will not chew up the retainer at all. Comments?
 
451Cuda said:
Anyone ever try these? For $230 they look too good to be true.
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They probably are. I bought a set of Pro-Comp Electronics rockers from JEGS that look like the same thing and were $229.00. They're still in the box. I haven't heard anything bad specifically about them but whenever you mention them everybody starts casting the Voodoo spells.

I wish somebody would go on on the record and say "they work perfect and now I can rev to 15,000 rpm" or "they are junk and I ruined my brand new motor, blew it to kingdom come".

If you ask, all you get are a few blowhards bitching about buying "Chinese crap" but nobody that has any direct knowledge.
 
Old Man Mopar said:
They probably are. I bought a set of Pro-Comp Electronics rockers from JEGS that look like the same thing and were $229.00. They're still in the box. I haven't heard anything bad specifically about them but whenever you mention them everybody starts casting the Voodoo spells.

I wish somebody would go on on the record and say "they work perfect and now I can rev to 15,000 rpm" or "they are junk and I ruined my brand new motor, blew it to kingdom come".

If you ask, all you get are a few blowhards bitching about buying "Chinese crap" but nobody that has any direct knowledge.
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I would sleep better at night knowing I bucked up for high quality rockers when a cheaper part could wipe out thousands of dollars worth of engine.
 
younggun2.0 said:
I would sleep better at night knowing I bucked up for high quality rockers when a cheaper part could wipe out thousands of dollars worth of engine.
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True and I will probably end up with Hughes rockers but still, that is the same general answer I always get to that question. What, specifically are you basing it on? ....or is it just your opinion?
 
younggun2.0 said:
I would sleep better at night knowing I bucked up for high quality rockers when a cheaper part could wipe out thousands of dollars worth of engine.
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Totally agree, and I'm skeptical. But sometimes with the right people involved the Chinese parts end up being decent (440 source stealth heads).
 
Old Man Mopar said:
True and I will probably end up with Hughes rockers but still, that is the same general answer I always get to that question. What, specifically are you basing it on? ....or is it just your opinion?
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I have no personal experience with them. But I do trust a tried and true rockers that I know last. MRL said the Hughes were nice. I have personal experience with the comp cams pro magnums and the Harland sharps have always been considered top quality. Can a high end rocker fail too? Hell yes it can! It's all a gamble. I just feel better about a part with a proven track record.
 
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