VIRUS HITTING CLOSE TO HOME

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Ventilators will save people... when those run out those at risk people will perish. Time will be the key. Making more ventilators and slowing down the spread, if possible. Hopefully, finding some drug treatments to help.
This is real.

Kinda make a guy to wonder where this is going to lead !!
 
More good news in the virus fight today...

New Corona Virus test in less than 5 minutes and is portable to go anywhere

Abbott Laboratories is unveiling a coronavirus test that can tell if someone is infected in as little as five minutes, and is so small and portable it can be used in almost any health-care setting.

The medical-device maker plans to supply 50,000 tests a day starting April 1, said John Frels, vice president of research and development at Abbott Diagnostics. The molecular test looks for fragments of the coronavirus genome, which can quickly be detected when present at high levels. A thorough search to definitively rule out an infection can take up to 13 minutes, he said.

Abbott has received emergency use authorization from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration “for use by authorized laboratories and patient care settings,” the company said on Friday.

The test starts with taking a swab from the nose or the back of the throat, then mixing it with a chemical solution that breaks open the virus and releases its RNA. The mixture is inserted into an ID Now system, a small box weighing just under 7 pounds that has the technology to identify and amplify select sequences of the coronavirus genome and ignore contamination from other viruses.

The equipment can be set up almost anywhere, but the company is working with its customers and the Trump administration to ensure the first cartridges used to perform the tests are sent to where they are most needed. They are targeting hospital emergency rooms, urgent-care clinics and doctors’ offices.

Last week, Abbott’s m2000 RealTime system got U.S. Food and Drug Administration approval for use in hospitals and molecular laboratories to diagnose the infection. That system can churn through more tests on a daily basis, up to 1 million a week, but it takes longer to get the results. Abbott plans to provide at least 5 million tests a month between the two systems.

Other companies are also rolling out faster testing systems. Henry Schein Inc. on Thursday said its point-of-care antibody test, which looks for evidence that a person’s immune system has already fought off the infection, was available. The blood test can be given at the point of care and delivers results in about 15 minutes, though it can’t be used to definitively diagnose a current infection.
 
And even more...

Corona virus antibody testing may be a silver bullet

While it might be impossible to figure out who is going to become sick with novel coronavirus, some public health experts believe the more critical question may be who has already been exposed.

In Telluride, Colorado, last week, one biotech company put that idea to work.

United Biomedical is now working with San Miguel County, which includes the famous Rocky Mountain ski destination, to test all 8,000 residents for COVID-19 antibodies -- making it the first community in the country to do widespread antibody testing. The idea, officials said, is to learn from an individual’s blood whether there is evidence the person has already been exposed. With that information, officials can then make decisions about whether quarantines and restrictions would need to continue and whether they need to be as widespread as they are in states and cities across the country right now.

"The goal of this is to show you can predictably get an entire county back to its new normal as quickly as possible by using testing," said Lou Reese, co-CEO of United Biomedical and its COVAXX subsidiary.

Reese stressed that, if successful, the testing program could be expanded, "starting at the hot-spot areas right now to solve this problem, stop the panic and get people to their lives and back to work."

The science behind the testing concept is not complicated. Every person who contracts the coronavirus will develop antibodies in their blood, usually within 10 days, even if the individual has such a mild case that there are no symptoms. Antibodies are proteins that help the body fight off an intruding virus -- but they’re also unmistakable forensic evidence of where the virus has been.

Because it is generally believed that someone who’s had an infection has at least a temporary immunity, a person who already had COVID-19 may not need to remain locked down the way millions of Americans -- in New York, California, Washington state and other places around the country -- are this weekend. What remains unknown is whether the immunity is long-lasting or whether someone who has coronavirus antibodies can continue carrying the virus, potentially posing a threat to others. For instance, people with a MERS infection -- a virus from the same family -- are unlikely to be reinfected shortly after recovery, but according to the CDC, "It is not yet known whether similar immune protection will be observed for patients with COVID-19."

As the coronavirus pandemic rages, killing thousands of its victims and tearing apart families, some political and health care leaders view antibody testing as a way to start reopening cities and allow people to return to work and play.

"This could be a big breakthrough," New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said of antibody testing during a briefing Saturday.

Reese said it could be a silver bullet.

"Antibody testing specifically is the fastest path of scientifically and mathematically getting to a new normal," Reese said.

Since the Food and Drug Administration announced an Emergency Use Authorization policy for antibody testing last week, laboratories across the U.S. have been rushing to develop their own antibody tests.
 
Those of us in the Pharmaceutical industry aren’t sitting back waiting to be instructed what to do. You would be amazed at the number of fast moving initiatives that are out there across the industry. We just need everyone to help flatten the curve and buy us time.

We can defeat this thing, we have the brain power and determination...we just need time.
 
Those of us in the Pharmaceutical industry aren’t sitting back waiting to be instructed what to do. You would be amazed at the number of fast moving initiatives that are out there across the industry. We just need everyone to help flatten the curve and buy us time.

We can defeat this thing, we have the brain power and determination...we just need time.
Thanks for your contribution! Please stay safe!
 
Looks like Spain is is now a contender for the top spot.

5500 new cases in last 24 hours.

They are now just below China (81400) with 78800.

Germany is a distant 5th with 59200 and "only" 500 new cases.
 
Ddaddy; Thanks for the info. I learned more from you than I did from the 30 second news segments on TV.
 
I have maintained all along that the percentages would change as the testing showed more active cases. I still think it will because many have it already. But so far the death rate is still averaging 5% +/- in the U.S.A.

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Here is the timeline vs deaths. A few weeks isn’t too out of line. 21,000 deaths to date. From Feb where I clicked that’s a pretty bad increase.

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Less than a week later and more than 30,000 deaths.
Exponential growth starts small for a long time is small. This virus has covered every country on the globe BUT HAS NOT TOUCHED EVEN A FIFTH IN F THE POPULATION OF THE EARTH.

There are two significant strains despite mutations. The one Italy has is very bad.
I don’t think we have that strain yet.
Even the Spanish Flu circled the earth TWICE before it killed 50 million people.

It started in November, and sure in five months hasn’t done much RELATIVE damage, but the EXCITING or awful months are yet to come. At least the industry and half the U.S. population is redirected their efforts. That should make a huge difference.

At the rate this virus spreads, and the cavalier attitude half the people have, it is going to get to everyone of us if we don’t die first. Just like a flu season. I fear for my older FABO companions and my parents/aunts/uncles.

I think most of us will be okay except upper respiratory problematic people. Also I heard don’t take ibuprofen for now.
 
It gets more deeper than that. Lots of folks are freaked out and sometimes a Dumb ***, the GC foreman was likely joking but created a stir! We have a stop work policy, the GC super made some stupid uniformed remarks today that shut our job down. I would feel safest at a hospital in most cases compared to going to the supermarket. But this *** stirred the pot. My crew said no way and respectively did a stop work. Cost me a full day of e-mail and letters from the hospital infectious control staff and the CDC/OSHA to stop! Looks like this is going to be a daily routine going forward!
My lord that is exactly how working with nuclear weapons work. Any Jack asset can stop production, but the rest of us have to suffer and continue with compounded restrictions piling on our shoulders. I totally emphasize with you. At first you want to punch the jack holes in the face, but after 5-20 more jack holes speak up to be important, you feel the ultra violence and want to curb stomp their pie holes.
 
Please read some history. The flu epidemic of 1918 killed more people than WWI did. It was in the millions DEAD
History read. Over two years to kill 50 million people. That is a big deal. That DOES NOT detract from this epidemic becoming a big deal. Even if the deaths are less.

I don’t see why you don’t get that. Half the population and industry has redirected their efforts, which will significantly reduce the death count. We have to go into a financial depression in order to beat the Spanish Flu. Read that again. Those people didn’t know how to avoid spreading and here we are armed with better knowledge, and are ramping up (10k increase in death toll from last week which is a third again the total death toll) -EXPONENTIAL GROWTH. That means it is really going spread in the coming months. Third world countries are in deep trouble. Maybe it means little to the typical American, but this is going to get a lot worse before we can honestly compare numbers.

If 70%+ of this virus’s death toll is in first world health care systems, what do think is going to happen to rest? China and Iran hide their death tolls, but you can’t fool all the people. Videos about urn counts in China, 21 million cell phone accounts inoperable, Iranian grave pit sizes with satellite imagery,, this is a bigger problem than the numbers provide. Probably not for us, I wouldn’t wish suffering on most people.
 
Please read some history. The flu epidemic of 1918 killed more people than WWI did. It was in the millions DEAD
Besides, the SPANISH FLU doesn’t happen every year. How the hell you can site one tragedy, say that is worse, and claim that is problem isn’t a big deal because it is not at that scale yet, when that scale of death took years to happen. 5 months, projections are that this stabilizes in the global population after 15-18 months.
 
I think you are misunderstanding 67's point of view.
If you read the quote he did, it makes sense that he does not think this is overreacting.
 
I don't think Russia is providing accurate data, only 8 dead ? A little suspect
 
Wouldn't these test be a great way to get everybodys dna?
The blood tests if they are doing blood tests would.
Reports on testing shows that it is sporadic.
The Taiwanese use some sort of sonic pad into the lungs and immediately know if someone has a bad case of Coronavirus.

I thought I heard of blood testing, but am not sure-(checking for anti-bodies) blood or saliva would give your DNA to the system if people had the time to save it for cataloging later. I don’t believe most corporations or other entities are THAT organized. And I worked with some of the best.

There are many different tests between countries which says something about our understanding of this virus.

Spain had test kits from China which 80% were faulty. They asked for more kits from the same exact Chinese company.
 
Death statistic as posted a few posts earlier at 5% is misleading as this rate is the death rate per confirmed cases. This years seasonal flu death rate statistic is number of deaths per estimated number of people who got the flu. Big difference. We still don't know how many people have had the corona virus and were not tested to confirm, could be a substantial number which would lower the death rate significantly.
 
When taken in to account 95 % have mild symptoms , It suggests many people will not be tested as the symptoms are similar to the common cold and flu.
The timing of this event will not allow for accurate data.
 
Death statistic as posted a few posts earlier at 5% is misleading as this rate is the death rate per confirmed cases. This years seasonal flu death rate statistic is number of deaths per estimated number of people who got the flu. Big difference. We still don't know how many people have had the corona virus and were not tested to confirm, could be a substantial number which would lower the death rate significantly.
I have heard from scientific studies (conducted over a month ago) that the death toll could be as low as 1.4% same source said Flu was .1% death rate.

Many people get the virus, and are uneffected, with faulty and insufficient testing, the death toll really is lower because we just cannot quantify how many people contract the virus.
 
No way? Really?

Carry on.

30,000 dead in a month. I don't think the numbers are quite meaningless.
People are dying. People are being tested. The numbers will change.
I'll stick with what I've said before.
 
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Looks like Spain is is now a contender for the top spot.

5500 new cases in last 24 hours.

They are now just below China (81400) with 78800.

Germany is a distant 5th with 59200 and "only" 500 new cases.
They blocked news coverage and allowed a few epic annual celebrations a month ago. After that, they were on track to catch up to Italy.

the celebrations were important to leadership because of tourism revenue.
 
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