What Points Distributor Do Experts Recommend?

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Can someone smarter than me, when it comes to distributors, give me advice? (That's a lot of you)
I need a new distributor. I'm running the original points distributor on a slightly pepped up street 318. From what I have read in forums I should stick with a points distributor. And I've read some stuff on adjusting the curve, which I don't really understand. So I may be looking for the right salesperson too.
Is there a distributor, or a seller, you recommend? Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Got one from Rockauto 3 years ago that I use to fire up fresh engines on the run stand.

Halifax sells the recurve spring sets if you want to put those in too.

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This one was a Cardone.
 
There is nothing wrong with the stock single points distributer. Mine dyno'ed at over 6k rpm. Areas of concern= worn bushings causing a variation in dwell and timing, cheap points causing a high speed miss or a bad vacuum advance causing stumbling and detonation.
 
There is nothing wrong with the stock single points distributer. Mine dyno'ed at over 6k rpm. Areas of concern= worn bushings causing a variation in dwell and timing, cheap points causing a high speed miss or a bad vacuum advance causing stumbling and detonation.
X2. A dual point would be next on the list.
 
There is nothing wrong with the stock single points distributer. Mine dyno'ed at over 6k rpm. Areas of concern= worn bushings causing a variation in dwell and timing, cheap points causing a high speed miss or a bad vacuum advance causing stumbling and detonation.

LOL there isn't? Mopar single point dist.s are some of the worst in the industry. Spark scatter, just plain variation, if you are going to run something anywhere near 5K+ "very much" I'd "do something else.

The fact is you can't BUT decent breaker point dist's that I know of, anymore. "Back in the day" the old Mallory, or Accel, or if you are lucky, score yourself a 340 factory Prestolite dual point. But some of those, you can barely or "not" get points and parts for, anymore.

IF IT WERE ME I'd put a Mopar breakerless in there, get it in good shape and curved, and either run Mopar electronics or a GM 4 pin module
 
When my original prestolte 340 distributor wore out I bought a Eclin dual point. It was a mechanical setup made by a division of eccel. That was a slickest little distributor. I still have it in a box somewhere. I move to electronic distributor about 10 years ago I've never looked back.
 
Use your original dist with new points as long as the shaft/bushes are ok. Then you do not have to worry about the 'curve'.
The best upgrade would be to elec ign.
 
id suggest the orginal distributor would have a curve suitable for the grade of gasoline available at the time. i'd suggest todays octane rateing is achived by different means than 50 years ago.. ethanol is added and oxygenation of the fuel is now done. Start with your oem unit and see what it wants at idle work out how much more initial timing above the book nunber it wants to idle, without a smell of unburnt fuel or grubby tail pipe end. Then get that removed from the total timing the advance mechanism wants to put in at 3000 rpm.

your 196?/ 197? factory manual probably specified 5BTDC and a total of 34 at 3000-4000 rpm

a specialist with a Krypton tune distributor machine or similar can do this for you

i live in the UK with different fuel from you, the standards are the same, we all get the same cars these days, but the base stock used means refining and achiveing octane is done differently country to country and climate to climate, to cater for heat cold and avilability of light crude

my 5 BTDC initial timing 34 Total timing in 1971, as described in the factory manual for what I would call the freely avilable 1971 4 star 98RON petrol, is no good today on current British unleaded E5 Super 95RON petrol.
The GAS has changed
When it was a standard motor i ran 10 BTDC initial and 30 total at 3000 for a clean running standard set up on modern fuel.

since it had a compression hike, cam, 1.72:1 rockers and way more carb

I now run 15 BTDC with a total of 28. high compression open chamber semi hemi head

my dizzy is MOPAR electronic above the plate and BOSCH below, it runs Bosch advance set up. (its australian, think of it like a Porsche or BMW 6 distributor with Mopar electronic pickup and reluctor under the cap)
to achive this change the distibutor advance needed to be limited
distributor was put in a vice so input shaft is locked along with the case.
timing disk was bored so it fitted over the rotor arm mounting
a wooden dowel was stripped to a point and wedged into the rotor arm mounting
i gripped and twisted the rotor against the advance so that the advance mechanism advances, and i measure usuing my wooden pointer and timing disk, how many degrees the distributor can advance. you will see somewhere between 12 and 15 in a stanard oem distributor in most cases, which translates to 24* to 30* at the crank
you then remove 1 degree of distributor advance for every 2 at the crank you need to get rid of.

i wanted to start at an initial advance of 15 BTDC and end a 28BTDC (3000 rpm) so i needed to see 13 degrees of advance at the crank which equates to 6.5 in the distrbutor

i did this by welding up an awkward profile cut into the advance armature that uses a spring mounting pin as a stop, and filing it back until my distributor had only 6.5 dgrees this limited how far the weights swung out and therfore how much advance the distributor supplies

13 distributor added degrees at the crank + 15 initial timing gave me 28 total at 3000rpm
motor will take up to 34 but just gets noiser and less happy so 28* is what it is.

To be honest its not so shabby just locked at 15, ELB distributor handy for first start and break in.

if you have a standard mopar dizzy you life is easy, try FBO for an advance limiting disc that can fit a standard mopar (american) distributor. (not my wierd Chrysler oem licencee hybrid)
easy to fit and does this job without welding

once you have clean running idle and smooth quiet running at mid to full throttle
worry about springs to decide how fast or slow that advance should be applied and what rpm it starts at.... mine needs so little it was not much of a worry for me it wants 15 at idle and so it can start, and then all-in more or less from then on...

but your's may still want quite a lot, state of tune plays a part, so the "Shape" of the curve is more imprtant, springs provide the start point and rate of advance in relation to rpm

then work on the vaccum can for clean running on cruise and run down.

I use mopar electronic style (australian mopar OEM licence from bosch) with a 4 pin HEI and a coil off a 1980s electronic igntion jaguar with no ballast to burn out.

basically the cheapest but best bang for my buck in a car where i don't care about limiters and other race focused facilities.


Dave
 
I need a new distributor. I'm running the original points distributor on a slightly pepped up street 318. From what I have read in forums I should stick with a points distributor. And I've read some stuff on adjusting the curve, which I don't really understand. So I may be looking for the right salesperson too.
Is there a distributor, or a seller, you recommend? Thanks in advance for any help.
It depends on what you've done to 'pep up' the engine.
Also on how you are going to use the car.
Whether the curve should be changed depends on what was done to the engine.
Murry is correct, for street use the single point will do the job. That's engine rpm of 3000 on the highway.
 
A single point in good condition for a stock or mild engNine should work fine. A little more initial timing, quicker advance, and total limit will be an improvement. They are easy to convert to Pertronix as well.
 
If its truly a '69 distributor, it should have a pretty quick advance off of idle.
 
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