WIW 1966 Barracuda

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lilcuda

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Thinking about selling my 1966 Barracuda that I've had for almost 27 years. Originally a Commando 273 4 speed with KH disks, HD suspension, 150 speedo, tach. It was basically a Formula S without the badges and it had a vinyl top.

Anyway, now it has a .030 over 340, line honed, square decked, forged crank, forged pistons, MP 280 duration .474 lift cam. Ported J heads with 2.02 intakes, LD 340 and a Holley 650 DP. Exhaust is currently manifolds to 2 1/4" pipes with Flowmasters. Have a set of Spitfire headers that would go with the car at the right price.

10 1/2" Centerforce dual-friction clutch, Aluminum bell housing.

Front suspension is all new. Reinforced K member, reinforced lower control arms, FF upper control arms, FF 1" t-bars, 1 1/8" sway bar, old KYBs. Front brakes are Cordoba rotors with Viper calipers, Hawk HPS pads. Entire front suspension including k member is powder coated black. Steering box is 16:1 manual.

Rear end is 8 3/4" 3.55 sure grip 742 case. Factory leaf springs, Addco 3/4" rear sway bar. Brakes are Diplomat 10 x 2.5" drums. All new brake parts, but the drums.

15 x 7 cop car wheels powder coated semi-gloss black with Yokohama AVS ES100 215/60R15 tires on all 4 corners.

Paint is black Imron that is over 30 years old. Needs TLC, but is presentable.

Interior is black. Front seats need to be redone. Needs carpet. Door panels are OK, have another decent set that would go with the car. Dash chrome needs to be rechromed. Have some extra pieces. Window mechanisms need some work. Have another complete set of rear mechanisms.

Custom one-off rev limiter and shift light by Dynatek Ignition.

Original block is in my possession and would go with the car.

See photos. Engine photo is old. It's a bit cleaner now.

Looking for input on the value.

Thanks!
 

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nice car!...with all the mechanical stuff that you have done to the car I would probably put it more at the 8K range. Just depends on how bad you want to sell it. If you want top money...put some carpet in it, fix the interior and put some dog dish caps on it. But I like it as is. Where are you located?
 
TexasDart said:
nice car!...with all the mechanical stuff that you have done to the car I would probably put it more at the 8K range. Just depends on how bad you want to sell it. If you want top money...put some carpet in it, fix the interior and put some dog dish caps on it. But I like it as is. Where are you located?
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$8k won't cut it for what I want to do. Got tons more $$ into than that. I have cop car dog dishes for it, but I kinda liked the look of no hubcaps, so I left them off. I'm in Northern CA.
 
Great car!
It's all mechanically sorted with some manageable cosmetic issues.
From what I have seen it gets difficult to get much past about $6000 for the ' 66 Barracudas. Yes some do but not too often.
All of the Mopar A bodies and especially the early ones values are extremely low which means it is really easy to have more into it than what it is worth. There are a few exceptions like Ferraris & Bugattis, but most cars are in the same boat.
Heres a good tool for value:
http://collectorcarpricetracker.com/auctions/make/Plymouth/model/Barracuda/years/1964-1966/
 
First - I like the car. I've had a 66 S 4sp with a 340 and they're fun. Second, I have a '65 getting treated to a bunch of stuff. But - knowing that...
It's not shiney, it's tattered looking. Like a brawler rather than a cruise night car (I like brawlers...lol). It's an early A, which closes a lot of doors with Mopar guys. You can spend mountains on it, if I'm looking to buy that means nothing to me as a buyer. It's all used parts unless they're in boxes, and then I'll take $$ off because they're not on the car. I think if the interior was perfect, and the paint actual high gloss black over straight steel - you might get into the teens with it given the rarity of it and the original engine with it. As it sits - I would not see it pulling past $6-7K and that's to someone that loves them. I'd keep it and continue the journey with it. Find another source of capital.
 
lilcuda said:
$5k to $8k? Yikes. I've got at least $20k to $25k into over the years. Haven't added up the receipts in a long time.
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The sad part is it doesn't matter how much money you have in a car because you can seldom get anywhere near it. Unless you have some rare pedigree car, it is just another piece of vintage iron that there is still plenty of out there. The early A Barracuda is just now starting to gain some recognition but they will never command the money the second generation Barracuda does. Same way with the second generation Barracuda when compared to the third generation Barracuda/Cuda. I saw a beautifully restored 66 black Barracuda set on the market for 6 months in Missouri and he was only asking $5500 or $6000 for it.

If you want to get an estimate, check eBay's completed auctions and start watching the current auctions. What the ending bids are is the best estimate to figure out a value.

The location also plays in the value. Cars on the west coast sell cheaper than cars in the rust belts.
 
I hate to agree with the above estimates, but facts are facts! The absolute highest sale I've ever seen for an early A was bought by a friend of mine, a meticulously restored 66 Formula "S" 4 speed car, purchased from the heart, not common sense for $19,000! The second highest 66 I've seen sold was an original paint Formula "S" automatic for $14,000! Again, a beautiful original car!!

My car is a lot like yours...original 273 Commando motor, auto, 8 3/4"-3:55 rear, K-H brakes, very nice restoration, all chrome in beautiful, almost flawless condition, completely redone interior, spitfires, aluminized exhaust, flowmasters!! I value my car at $8500, but its more than likely a $7500 sell!! Yep, I wish it was more, but facts are facts, they are just not that popular and don't command the money!!! Geof
 

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Thanks for the input. Gonna have to rethink my plans if I could only get $8k tops. I know it's not super desirable, but I thought it would be worth more than what you guys are saying.
 
Oh - and thanks for the compliments on the car as well!
 
Yup sad to say about 8 grand is tops being the early A is one of the red headed step kids when it comes to money.
 
lilcuda said:
Thanks for the input. Gonna have to rethink my plans if I could only get $8k tops. I know it's not super desirable, but I thought it would be worth more than what you guys are saying.
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Like everyone else has said, It is a nice car, but your car will always be worth more to you than to someone in the market tying to buy an old car.
You have your blood sweat and tears into that car I am sure, but that really doesn't matter to a buyer, as they are going to look at the current average value of a car like yours and evaluate it based from that information, like nadaguides, KBB, Hagerty, etc and what other cars like yours are selling for, and your cars current condition, and all that labor and parts you have put into the car, chalk that it up as upkeep to the car to keep it going.

You can count up and add up all the money and time you put into it over the years, but that doesn't make the car worth that amount you have put into it, but that doesn't really matter, as the current market for the car is what you will get, sorry to say.

I have been researching prices hardcore for the past few months on 60-70's MOPAR"s mainly, and a nicely almost to fully restored '66 'Cuda is going for 8K on the low end-12K on the top end if it's a convertible maybe. You can pick up a driver that needs a little work for around 6K.
It sucks, I know, you never get out of these cars what you put into them, unless it is a rare optioned car.
This is why, I am saving my money to buy something fixed up a already instead of me, buying a cheap 318 A body dart for 2K, and dumping 20k into restoring it, and it only being worth 10K at the end of the day.
I think you should keep it!!:burnout:
 
Part it out. Theres 8K and youll still have the body. And I even own one.....Just no demand for a restification. Have fun with it.
 
Not sure on value but the early-A cars are worth way less then what's invested in them...sad but true...I love my 66 and could care less what's it worth cause its never gonna be for sale....BTW, I love your Fish, it has an awesome theme going on there :glasses7:
 
pishta said:
Part it out. Theres 8K and youll still have the body. And I even own one.....Just no demand for a restification. Have fun with it.
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Well, maybe for personal satisfaction, with the knowledge it won't be worth selling it afterwards for what you have into it..., but I agree with your statement:thumblef:
 
ledman said:
Like everyone else has said, It is a nice car, but your car will always be worth more to you than to someone in the market tying to buy an old car.
You have your blood sweat and tears into that car I am sure, but that really doesn't matter to a buyer, as they are going to look at the current average value of a car like yours and evaluate it based from that information, like nadaguides, KBB, Hagerty, etc and what other cars like yours are selling for, and your cars current condition, and all that labor and parts you have put into the car, chalk that it up as upkeep to the car to keep it going.

You can count up and add up all the money and time you put into it over the years, but that doesn't make the car worth that amount you have put into it, but that doesn't really matter, as the current market for the car is what you will get, sorry to say.

I have been researching prices hardcore for the past few months on 60-70's MOPAR"s mainly, and a nicely almost to fully restored '66 'Cuda is going for 8K on the low end-12K on the top end if it's a convertible maybe. You can pick up a driver that needs a little work for around 6K.
It sucks, I know, you never get out of these cars what you put into them, unless it is a rare optioned car.
This is why, I am saving my money to buy something fixed up a already instead of me, buying a cheap 318 A body dart for 2K, and dumping 20k into restoring it, and it only being worth 10K at the end of the day.
I think you should keep it!!:burnout:
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No such animal as a 1966 Barracuda convertible from the factory. First production Barracuda convertible started in 1967.
 
My 2 cents?
I agree with most of the other posters and they are mostly posting from the heart - telling it close to the truth.
You can put any price on a car to sell - but what will someone pay with similar cars already on the market?

I agree with those who said "keep it and go on enjoying it"

Just my 2 cents
 
My other 2 cents as I am on m second early barracuda first a 66 now a 65 Formula S that I love and refer to a hole I throw money into! They are great cool cars you must want to drive and enjoy then for what they are! As down the road they may one day be worth a little bit more, as I thought when I had the 66 fully restored and it ran low 12's. One day a fool crunched it and I battled the insurance company to pay me what I had in it, it was a losing battle except I had all the receipts for work recently done. Now my current 65 Formula S another hole I am putting money into but I love it. It had been mechanically restored on a rotisserie and runs like a rabbit. Yet still needs some body work and a paint job, another 8k of work yikes! I have at least that much in it and drive it all the time to shows and mopar club events. Don't care about anything but enjoying it for what it is. People see it and find its originality cool, although it has disc brakes, dual master cylinder, and 14 inch rally wheels now it looks original so I just smile and let them look at it as if it is. Some time down the road it will get body and paint as I have a fund for it slowly building its weight to do the job. The joy of my car is mine to enjoy and I would never sell it! I love it and I invest in it as just for me! I know it is worth what you want it to be, but to sell one of these to another is unfortunately a no win situation as people feel they have no value! Why is a unknown as they do hold a place in sport car history with the big glass window in back, on the market before a mustang an just its cool appeal back in the day! History of cars is in its blood for sure, but not in its price value for some silly reason! Just drive it enjoy it and smile when people look at it and try to figure out what is that car!!

65Cudalover!
 
my 66 has no big value to others.
u couldn"t buy it for 6 or 8 grand ,i built it to enjoy
and drive,
just my 2 cents.
 
You've had it 27 years you might as well keep it .

I've had my 1969 Dart since 1981 and plan on dying with it
 
pishta said:
Part it out. Theres 8K and youll still have the body. And I even own one.....Just no demand for a restification. Have fun with it.
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Uhh...no. The car is too cool to part out, plus I don't have the space, time or patience to do so.

The problem is that my interest in the car has been diminishing over time. I thought that my big bolt pattern conversion and the addition of the Viper brakes would get me back into it, but I just am not feeling it anymore. Plus, I found another car I want. Can't buy the other car and keep this one. No room and no budget for it.
 
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