318 f.a.s.t class , oem stock appearing

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i want a street motor , but a 318 c.i. 2bbl and iron heads / manifolds that kicks ***... tired of 340s and 360s for my barracuda , got a 360 in my duster and a 440 in my gtx... but i cant imagine that it was so complicated to actually make it happen , i tought it would be easier to get some infos here with you guys ,

btw: i will not race in F.A.S.T class, im inspired by them , but want something streetable
 
Hes inspired by FAST but it's a street engine if I got it right.

You definitely can do what you want you can build a mean 2bbl manifold 318. 400-500 hp though is gonna be expensive. The more powerful you go the more restrictive the 2bbl and manifolds will be so under 400 hp they will probably eat 50 hp if you go 500 hp they will probably eat 100 hp so you'd have to build a 600 hp engine to get 500.
I'm talking in general terms this ain't exact science.

So a 390 kit, 10:1 CR, ported out EQ's with a 360 2bbl intake with big block carb and custom 280 ish hydraulic roller. Would probably get you somewhere you want to be and your a headers and 4bbl swap away later if your not happy.

I'd use the 360 intake ovrr the 318 no matter what 2bbl you run the late model guys around here say the dyno more then the eddy performer.
 
Take a look at the folks that run R/SA and U/SA in NHRA/IHRA Stock Eliminator. These folks know how to legally cheat and all the tricks to run fast. I met a gentleman in Englishtown who was running a '65 Dodge 9 passenger station station wagon, 272/2bbl who held 7 seven national records. Gettin' it done @14.20 seconds. The big difference in camshaft specs. (because the lift limit is 4.50"). So the custom ground cams have some wicked duration that won't let them idle at less than 2500rpm. But it canbe done so do your r&d well and don't give up
 
It's not complicated at all LOL, build it the way you want, stroke the 318 to 390+ port out some j heads, take a two bbl 360 intake, port it as much as you can, 500cfm 2bbl, modify a stock air cleaner, keeping it stock looking means exhaust manifolds, so do you use 318 or 340 manifolds sharp Mopar guys know the difference so that's up to you. Can't go big on the cam because the engine won't breath past 4,000rpm so the cam will have to be relatively small. At the end of the day you basicly have a mild truck motor, to make it run a quick ET that will have peaple scratching there head, you will need to do it with a ton of compression, and a custom roller cam, and good 4.10ish gears in a light car, then I could see mid 12's with a true 2bbl carb and intake through exhaust manifolds.
 
The F.A.S.T. class car's are running in the 10's on reproduction bias ply tread tires.. They aren't joking around. I personally love that class cause it shouldn't be possible what they are doing..

If you're not building a class legal car, even if you are, I would step up to a 340 block so it still looks like a 318, stroked to a 408 or bigger cube, EQ magnum heads w/ LA bolt pattern/seriously ported, 360 2bbl intake seriously ported, Holley 500cfm 2bbl with no choke, custom ground hyd. roller cam, stud mount roller rockers/guide plates, 2bbl truck air cleaner, and later 340/360 hipo manifolds seriously opened up on both ends (FAST guys extrude hone the stock hipo manifolds but it's $$$$)
 
A friend has a Satellite with a mildly built, but stock appearing 318 2bbl. While it's quicker than another stock 318, it's not much more bang for the bucks and effort spent. He runs the 360 intake and carb, cleaned up exhaust ,anifolds, and modified the air cleaner to breath better in adition to some internal stuff. If you want to do it, go for it. But if you're hoping to surprise bigger engines - a 318 4bbl with the typical mods will do that. A 2bbl version probably won't.
 
In my opinion it would take a lot of tricks to get into the 12's with a 2bl. To do it with 318 exhaust manifolds, it would need to be on point with no stone unturned. It would not be very streetable, and it would need to be a very light car.
A very good friend of mine runs a 68 Dart GTS in F.A.S.T., 416 stroker, 12.5:1, solid cam, ported x heads, intake, exhaust, car weighs around 3150lbs. He runs bottom 12's on a good day, mid-12's most of the time.
390cu in, ported-j's, any kind of streetable compression, 2bl and 318 manifolds.... Better open your wallet...
 
Build your 318 with a 390 stroker, ported EQ heads, good roller cam, stock 318 intake and stock 318 2bbl unmodified. Put all your money into a NOS direct port fuel and fogger system plumbed on the bottom of the intake. When you want to go fast, click a toggle switch inside the car and the stock 2bbl carb becomes your NOS on/off switch.

The stock 2bbl with the correct jetting will allow you to idle and drive up to 3000 RPMs or basically get you to the track. The NOS system is what will get you down the track and put up the big numbers you want.

If you are going to run the stock exhaust manifolds you need a custom cam that takes that into account.
 
i like the nitrous idea , i dont know how to hidden that stuff and never drove a engine with nitrous , why can it be so hard to run with the 2bbl intake and carb even if its modified ? i didnt tought it was that difficult , i have two ideas , 1- to stroke it to 390 cu .in or or to buy aluminium heads and to port them to the max , still using 2bbl intake and iron manifolds ( dont forget that i want the intake to be massively ported and the car modified to maybe 500 cfm or more )
 
zac_F71 said:
The F.A.S.T. class car's are running in the 10's on reproduction bias ply tread tires.. They aren't joking around. I personally love that class cause it shouldn't be possible what they are doing..
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Are you serious they're running stroked engines with big compression that run on race fuel only.. heads that have been hogged out intakes to match.. hugh cams.. carbs that have been tweaked too the max,rollerized transmissions ect ect..and those bias pyl tires are specialy treated too..the guys running in the 10's have more money in their engines then most have in a completely rebuilt car..not impressed.
 
stroked340 said:
Are you serious they're running stroked engines with big compression that run on race fuel only.. heads that have been hogged out intakes to match.. hugh cams.. carbs that have been tweaked too the max,rollerized transmissions ect ect..and those bias pyl tires are specialy treated too..the guys running in the 10's have more money in their engines then most have in a completely rebuilt car..not impressed.
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Sorry to go off topic. I always get a kick out of statements like this. Obviously they are race motors, just curious why they are that much more expensive than any other race motor? Any heads up drag racing class is not going to be cheap if you want to run at the front of the class. Also curious what special treatment the tires get?
 
ValerianMagnum said:
i like the nitrous idea , i dont know how to hidden that stuff and never drove a engine with nitrous , why can it be so hard to run with the 2bbl intake and carb even if its modified ? i didnt tought it was that difficult , i have two ideas , 1- to stroke it to 390 cu .in or or to buy aluminium heads and to port them to the max , still using 2bbl intake and iron manifolds ( dont forget that i want the intake to be massively ported and the car modified to maybe 500 cfm or more )
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It really depends on what intake you want to run, and what you can get it to flow. I never flowed one, but I imagine even a very well worked factory 2bl manifold isn't going to flow very well. So say you get it to flow 200cfm, it doesn't really matter whats after it (cylinder heads) as long as they flow at least 200cfm. If you find a manifold that works very well, then yes an upgrade of cylinder head will help. The same can be said for the exhaust manifolds, if your exhaust ports can flow 200cfm, but the manifolds will only flow 150cfm...
 
I'd use the stock 360 2bbl intake over the 318 even if you have to adapt for the 318 carb. The stock 360 intake is a pretty good piece for a 2bbl intake. The problem running the 318 2bbl other than really small I could be wrong is it limited ability to be setup. I'm sure you can make it work a holler 2bbl would be better though stock cars use those all the time my cousin late model 360 pulls to 7000 rpm on the track.
 
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