68 Barracuda Formula S 340 missing trim tag and Vin / dash

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RAT ROD AL said:
Food for thought, If the VIN tag is missing and the car was parted out somewhere in time, There MAY BE another car out there with the VIN tag and registered to some one already !
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Yes, that thought has already crossed my mind. I have someone that can check that out for me. In the meantime it will set in the back yard collecting dust like it has since 2005.
 
RAT ROD AL said:
Food for thought, If the VIN tag is missing and the car was parted out somewhere in time, There MAY BE another car out there with the VIN tag and registered to some one already !
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Exactly. Car out there with the real VIN and this one that someone managed to title with an SO number..
 
dwiley41 said:
Yes, that thought has already crossed my mind. I have someone that can check that out for me. In the meantime it will set in the back yard collecting dust like it has since 2005.
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What was the seller's story about the car? Your saying this car was registered in early 2000 and was roadworthy and then was parted out?
 
dwiley41 said:
Yes, that thought has already crossed my mind. I have someone that can check that out for me. In the meantime it will set in the back yard collecting dust like it has since 2005.
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I bought 2 Barracudas a few months back , one had a new title in the sellers name, but they didn't check the VIN #s on the new title . They didn't match by 1 # off, Didn't matter since it was just a parts car and then scrapped. A couple years back ROY R bought a Duster here in FL and went to transfer the title and it was already registered in New York State.
 
A56 said:
What was the seller's story about the car? Your saying this car was registered in early 2000 and was roadworthy and then was parted out?
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The title states it was registered from August 2005 -2006. just checked with Been Verified and according to them it is a 1 owner car with dates that match the title. 2006. I'll try to get a hold of the owner and get more info. My son picked the car up for me and probably didn't ask all of the questions that i would have. I'm currently in a wheelchair after tearing my quadracepts completely from my knee cap.
A56 said:
What was the seller's story about the car? Your saying this car was registered in early 2000 and was roadworthy and then was parted out?
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The original owner Is Mike G. Same as the name on the title. He was also in Calimesa and is 85 years old and now lives in Utah.. If he is still alive. This car has only been registered to him and is not the same guy that i bought it from.. although he and Bob are both about the same age. Interesting info. I will have the history checked out further by my friend who works at the MVD. Thank You everyone for all of your input. Leaving the building for now.
 
HemiSSDart said:
I'm thinking the title is not legit or the State of California don't know there *** from a hole in the ground and issues a title with the numbers found on the body. The stamped numbers are the Shipping Order Number found on the Fender Tag and Broadcast Sheet, they DO NOT MATCH THE VIN! Here is another example of SO#'s on a 1968. The VIN tag is missing as well as the fender tag because the "VIN" numbers on the title are wrong...

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Yes title has wrong vin BH27P8B198220
That tells me this title was made up (2005?) after the dash VIN was missing and there was nothing in system for it nor person that took it to DMV had any past paperwork on it. Like no pink slip.

I don’t see dual exhaust cutouts in the rear valance. Would need to see pictures of underside exhaust of floor pan behind rear seat

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HemiSSDart said:
Get the title in your name and have the Secretary of State Police come look at it. If everything checks out then they will issue a State VIN plate and attach it, at least that is how it works in Wisconsin where I had it done. As far as the fender tag, it is long gone and should not be reproduced because it will never be correct...
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He might luck out and locate the build sheet in the seats or behind the glove box liner.

SOL without it.
 
RAT ROD AL said:
Food for thought, If the VIN tag is missing and the car was parted out somewhere in time, There MAY BE another car out there with the VIN tag and registered to some one already !
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I agree.

That was my initial point as well.
 
autoxcuda said:
Yes title has wrong vin BS27P8B198220
That tells me this title was made up (2005?) after the dash VIN was missing and there was nothing in system for it nor person that took it to DMV had any past paperwork on it. Like no pink slip.

I don’t see dual exhaust cutouts in the rear valance. Would need to see pictures of underside exhaust of floor pan behind rear seat
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Good eye on the rear valence cutouts autoxcuda!

Also, in the ad is says the car is an automatic.




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I had a 69 Coronet R/T stolen in 1973 with a Swinger. In 2005 I got the swinger back. I also found the Coronet. I have the Titles for both cars. The Coronet is now registered and on the road. I Contacted the State Police and the DMV. What I found was a Duplicate title supersedes the original title. The first thing I would do is see if someone else has a duplicate. If they do that body you have is useless with that title. Also I would not advertise what you have . Someone may come and take it. I believe you have a title that was applied for using the number you have on the body. Be careful what you put on the internet.
 
Oldmanmopar said:
I had a 69 Coronet R/T stolen in 1973 with a Swinger. In 2005 I got the swinger back. I also found the Coronet. I have the Titles for both cars. The Coronet is now registered and on the road. I Contacted the State Police and the DMV. What I found was a Duplicate title supersedes the original title. The first thing I would do is see if someone else has a duplicate. If they do that body you have is useless with that title. Also I would not advertise what you have . Someone may come and take it. I believe you have a title that was applied for using the number you have on the body. Be careful what you put on the internet.
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Agree.

Whoever has the last legal registration and title in their name owns the car.
 
autoxcuda said:
Yes title has wrong vin BS27P8B198220
That tells me this title was made up (2005?) after the dash VIN was missing and there was nothing in system for it nor person that took it to DMV had any past paperwork on it. Like no pink slip.

I don’t see dual exhaust cutouts in the rear valance. Would need to see pictures of underside exhaust of floor pan behind rear seat
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BH not BS No 2nd gen Barracudas were BS.
 
autoxcuda said:
This theft earlier this year in SoCal does not list a 340 convertible. But lists 68 convertibles.

This conv has pink going back to 2005. So doesn’t seem related

Stolen A-Bodies From CA High Desert
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A56 said:
BH not BS No 2nd gen Barracudas were BS.
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The title that I have for the car is Vin
BH27P8B198220 not BS. I posted it earlier in the thread. Working with a friend of mine to get earlier history on the car so Will hopefully have more info soon
 
Super-Cuda said:
Agree.

Whoever has the last legal registration and title in their name owns the car.
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According to Been Verified the latest title status is current. One owner. The guy is 85 years old and now lives in Utah.. I have contact information for him as well so I’m going to try getting in touch with him. Obviously there were previous title/titles before that. I’ll see what I can find
 
dwiley41 said:
The title that I have for the car is Vin
BH27P8B198220 not BS. I posted it earlier in the thread. Working with a friend of mine to get earlier history on the car so Will hopefully have more info soon
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I know.
 
dwiley41 said:
According to Been Verified the latest title status is current. One owner. The guy is 85 years old and now lives in Utah.. I have contact information for him as well so I’m going to try getting in touch with him. Obviously there were previous title/titles before that. I’ll see what I can find
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If the car only had one owner and the status is current, He still legally owns the car with that vin # .

Its good you have contacts with the DMV.

You are going to need help with this one I think.
 
dwiley41 said:
You may be correct. I will get with MVD and get it checked out .
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A56 said:
What was the seller's story about the car? Your saying this car was registered in early 2000 and was roadworthy and then was parted out?
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Super-Cuda said:
If the car only had one owner and the status is current, He still legally owns the car with that vin # .

Its good you have contacts with the DMV.

You are going to need help with this one I think.
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Agreed. I actually have his contact info as well. Just curious, were the convertibles produced late in the year or at the end of the line? I know that they started stamping the vins in the body sheet metal in 69 from what I’ve been reading. The SO number on this one is really high.
 
i've been around a fair amount and never heard of "been verified" as a vin check site (only as a background check service), so to me whatever info they have is suspect at best.

the only one i'd trust to tell me if the car is clean is the national insurance crime bureau.

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now here's the rub... you don't have an actual vin to run, you just have whatever the person that reg'd up the car last decided to put on the title.

to me, this reeks of a stolen car or a title wash.

unless you can procure paperwork that pre-dates 05, and said paperwork is extensive, conclusive and has provenance-- ie official, then this whole thing is hinky.
 
junkyardhero said:
i've been around a fair amount and never heard of "been verified" as a vin check site (only as a background check service), so to me whatever info they have is suspect at best.

the only one i'd trust to tell me if the car is clean is the national insurance crime bureau.

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now here's the rub... you don't have an actual vin to run, you just have whatever the person that reg'd up the car last decided to put on the title.

to me, this reeks of a stolen car or a title wash.

unless you can procure paperwork that pre-dates 05, and said paperwork is extensive, conclusive and has provenance-- ie official, then this whole thing is hinky.
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junkyardhero said:
i've been around a fair amount and never heard of "been verified" as a vin check site (only as a background check service), so to me whatever info they have is suspect at best.

the only one i'd trust to tell me if the car is clean is the national insurance crime bureau.

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now here's the rub... you don't have an actual vin to run, you just have whatever the person that reg'd up the car last decided to put on the title.

to me, this reeks of a stolen car or a title wash.

unless you can procure paperwork that pre-dates 05, and said paperwork is extensive, conclusive and has provenance-- ie official, then this whole thing is hinky.
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Super-Cuda said:
Did you transfer the car ownership to your name yet?

Not sure exactly how it works in your State but, here in Canada, it's illegal to remove the vin from the vehicle.

Plus, if I have the original dash with the original vin attached with the unmolested security rivets and I have the current registration, I own the car. The body numbers are essentially irrelevant.

A title search may be needed to verify the legal owner of the car you purchased.

There's very very few reasons why some one removes the original vin and fender tag.
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ThTs a big no no here in the states
 
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