Can you ID this Mopar gearbox?

[JDMopar]

Pretty sure it's 26 splines on an A230.

 

[MidnightSwinger]

Pretty sure it's 26 splines on an A230.

My 71 a230 is 26 spline

 

[French demon]

It's a good news as I'll be able to use my '71 driveshaft onto my '66 output shaft without changing the yoke.... I read in Jamie Passon book that 1966 was the only year the A833 had a 26-teeth output shaft spline
Thanks you, Sirs.

 

[66fs]

It's a good news as I'll be able to use my '71 driveshaft onto my '66 output shaft without changing the yoke.... I read in Jamie Passon book that 1966 was the only year the A833 had a 26-teeth output shaft spline
Thanks you, Sirs.

My 67 Barracuda with the Commando 273 had the 26 spline output shaft A-833 also.

 

[French demon]

My 67 Barracuda with the Commando 273 had the 26 spline output shaft A-833 also.

Yes, I said 1966 to simplify, but in fact it's from 1966 to mid-67.

 

[French demon]

Some news
Today, I disassembled my Inland shifter. It needs a new chrome job


Internal parts :

The screw that hold the cable is really tiny : it's a 1/16 allen wrench.


The good news is that the cable cannot be frayed : it consists of only one steel strand. So, reinstalling it should not be tricky...



Next step now : cleaning and painting the three shifter rods.

François

 

[MidnightSwinger]

WD-40 and tin foil might help that shift handle. Here is what it did for the front bumper on the 65 Dart.

 

[French demon]

The shift handle surface is severely rusted and the chrome is ruined
I would like to have a professional chrome plating job. I’m waiting for a quote

 

[French demon]

A problem about the bellhousing.

I want to install this A833 into my Demon, but my current '71 3-speed bellhousing doesn't accept 4-speed gearbox.
So, I have to use the 1966 bellhousing coming with the gearbox
Ok...

BUT, I saw that the Z-bar linkage attachment is different on the 1966 BH and on the 1971 BH

It took the dimensions of the two BH ball studs
They are both 6 cm long (or 2.36 inches, or 2(23/64) in.) including the bracket thickness

With a little luck, maybe that the BH ball stud, despite the difference of mounting bracket, is in the same location in 1966 and 1971..?





Any help before the 3-speed gearbox removal will be greatly appreciated
François

 

[French demon]

Some news

The /6 bell housing has been degreased and painted. From '66 red to '71 blue (not the correct blue, but it will make the job)

Before


After

 

[French demon]

Today, the Inland shifter is back from the chromer craftman. He made a nice job.
Now and before :




And the gearbox has been degreased and painted.


Now, I'm waiting for a shipping quote from Dan Brewer for some parts I have to replace (bearing retainer, seal, gaskets,...)

 

[French demon]

Reassembling the shifter is very tricky


As soon as the lockout lever is slipped onto the shifter, the cable is invisible and unreachable... no way to guide the cable through the lockout lever hole
I assume that at the Inland plant, they used longer cables that, once installed, were cut just above the lockout lever.

 

[French demon]

With a little patience and resourcefulness, I've been able to reinstall the lockout handle and its cable : I slightly enlarged the lockout lever tiny hole, I centered the cable thanks to a little piece of rubber hose and miracle, when I slipped the T-handle onto the shifter, the cable passed through the hole...
I blocked the cable with the little Allen screw and it was over

 

[French demon]

The gearshift linkage has been reinstalled.



Instead of original clips, I used more modern "R" shaped clips.

The five gears engage easily (the reverse one with a sound "clac"... is it normal?) and the lockout lever works well.

 

[French demon]

Today, I received a bunch of new parts from Dan Brewer
Thanks Dan & Lisa

 

[French demon]

New bearing retainer installation








New extension housing yoke seal installation




Bellhousing with a new boot and new clutch release bearing

 

[French demon]

Hello guys

Now it's time to drain and refill this A833.
Of course, here, we don't have the same oils than in USA, but what do you recommend?
I thought using a german 80W-90 multigrade oil, API GL-4/GL-5.

FUCHS TITAN SUPERGEAR MC 80W90 Gear Oil (MB Spec 235.0, 1 Liter)

François

 

[66fs]

GL-4 would be preferred. GL-5 supposedly does not play well with the brass sychros.

 

[French demon]

Thank you for this precision. I didn't know.
It seems that all modern oils are GL-4/5, or GL-5 only.
I finally found this one, another german made gear oil, but GL-4 only.

Not very expensive, I'll probably go for that one.

 

[AJ/FormS]

I finally found this one, another german made gear oil, but GL-4 only.

As long as you don't install synthetic, you should be fine. I even ran auto-trans fluid for many years; Dextron II ATF,
not FORD type..

 

[French demon]

Mannol 8107 oil is mineral-based...
MANNOL Universal 80W-90 GL-4

all

 

[French demon]

Hi there,

It's Ok, oil drain and refill with API GL4 are done.
I am nearly ready to install my A833 into the Demon

Nearly ready because I have a last interrogation : the starter.

This morning I had a look on Rockauto and I saw that there are starters for M/T 4-speed and starters M/T 3-speed.
Are the starters different?

Will my M/T 3 sp. starter be compatible with the A833 and its bellhousing?

I don't even know my starter part number. I will have a look tomorrow.