Alright! Screwed out of my time again!!
Got a call right when we were sitting down to dinner, figures.
Ready for test drive of the $10K Dart!
We got there, her son there, ABB & BOF with me.
Before test drive I wanted more pics.
It was first time I saw in daylight and she almost waited till that was gone!
She maintains car never wrecked or painted all original paint.
Been dancing with her all week. She kept wanting my offer, but I don't offer on anything with out driving it first or EBAY! LOL!!
Last time we were in a dark garage with car cover on half the car!!!
Anyway, I started getting pics with sun hitting. I'm not too good at seeing but when I shoot pic I can see it better. I start seeing dents every where, orange peel, sanding swirls under the paint, body filler filling normally open body lines, flat black paint hiding rust all over leaf springs/boxes, all over underneth. As i was shooting she kept talking Offer, Offer,Offer
Jezz! Somethings up! Something smells fishey.....
I stopped and handed her all print outs of compairables all over US, and handed her the new NADA Classic Cars Price Guide($9.99!) her car page marked and highlighted. Told her son to go over it all while were test driving.
Her; Whats that $8950? I thought you said 9K
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I rounded off for conversation. The top price per NADA for a car like your in MINT condition is $8950.00 and the low side is $3600.00, so my final negotiated offer would be between $5500 (Average quality per NADA)and $8950 for Mint condition.
Oh no your crazy if you think I'm selling my 10K car for $5500!!
I looked at her son who was following and repeated slowly. This is NADA. The Banks use this to make loans on these cars. If you have good credit the bank will loan almost all of top price if MINT condition. YOUR CAR IS NOT IN MINT CONDITION, and I know, you know what that is (looking at her) because you and your husband were so into the car scene, you know what I'm saying.
You not buying my car for $5500 I DON'T HAVE TO SELL IT TO YOU FOR THAT!
Ok, I'm not test driving now.
Why not?
We're wasting each others time unless you want to wait till Monday morning when I'll have all cash on me. You called too late and I only have 2 grand cash, rest when bank opens Monday. You want to negotiate the price now or Monday? Did you talk with your Mother in law who was original owner? Is she now ok with sale?
I talked with her, I don't care it's my car now and can't afford insurance and such with my mustang and other car too.
Ok so, I'll start negotiations so you two can talk while were gone.
What do you mean negotiate?
HAve you seen pawn stars on TV?
NO
How bout American Pickers? Son says yes, she says no.
OK well here's how it starts; You high Ball a price which you already did at $10K. So It's my turn with the lowest possible "FAIR" price. Avaerage price is $5500.00 so I start with my Low ball of $5500.00 That's my first offer with out the test drive.
OH NO I TOLD YOU WERN'T BUYING AT 5500!!
Look you high balled, I low balled now you say 9,000 sense that's the price for mint coondition which your ois not so 9 is still too high but I counter at $6000.00.
OH no you Don't!
Yeah but then you counter with 8500 and you already admitted the other day you would sell at 8,000, so you sya 8 I say 7 then you at 7500 I say deal, get it?
No I don't, looks at son and asks, do you understand and follow what he's saying? Son: YES
Well are we negotiating now or are we driving?
We are NOT negotiating!
OoooKAy! Well You're wasting my time and I'm wasting yours. After a couple more weeks of laughs and smart *** coments on the phone about your price if you finally deside you really want to sell and get it to a good home then call me, I'll come back with cash and we'll do this all over again OK?
What do you mean do what again? looks at son again...Yes he knows what I mean exactly.
I repeated, YOU are NOT going to sell this car for 10K it's not mint. I already told you the front fender and door was repainted and I'm pretty sure the rest of the car has been painted too. Remember when I showed you the "NEW PAINT" over spray area in trunk floor all the way across the back inside? You told me no, it has never been painted, well I'm sorry to tell you it has and the body work and spraying is sub par. Somone also hosed down the leafsprings and underneth with flat black paint. It dried dripping off the springs!
My husband didn't spray anything under there or have the car painted.
Ok well have a great weekend. When you really want to sell for real cash, call me. But I will not give you 20 of my house payments for a price that reflects top price of Mint showroom condition with your car being slightly above average. Looked at son and told him to talk with her about negotiating and call me when they are ready to sell. If it's more than a week, I will have already bought a car. Have a nice evening. ABB and I left.
You tell me if I'm dealing honest and fair. I'm showing up and shareing with her, printouts on a dozen of this weeks compairables and the NADA book.:read2:
Even giving to them both to review BEFORE negotiations!!
My concience is clean and Bad Karma free!:-D
Kinda wodering what else is haveing stories told about on the car. It's not all it appears to be, and some others around are like that too!
The hood and the drivers fender don't line up in pics, look at front edge gap at nose cone! I may be blind but I can see my pics in my camera and they unlike others don't lie!! What an act played. Just cause I'm nice and can talk like a back woods hoosier don't mean you can skin me, even with the sad circumstances that surround the deal.
