66340SEDAN
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duster pistol grip
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j par
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I can't vision how that works in my A-body? The linkage?
I tracked my shifter on the fedex website and it got one mile
away Friday@6pm and the fedex hub is closed til Monday! !!!!!
rotest::banghead:#-o
From the pictures I have seen, cars with bench seats are probably better off just installing the pistol grip shifter as is because the bench seats sit a little higher than buckets. Bucket seat cars sit lower and would in my opinion benefit from some type of bracket to tilt the shifter back. Maybe not the one pictured though.
I can't vision how that works in my A-body? The linkage?
I tracked my shifter on the fedex website and it got one mile
away Friday@6pm and the fedex hub is closed til Monday! !!!!!
That bracket is for the B body cars ONLY. It will NOT work on an A body. It's for the B body bench seat cars, and uses the forward pad on a B/E body dual shifter pad transmission. The bucket seat B/E bodies used the rear shifter location. On an A body 833 that bracket would stick up through the floor!
The 71b body pistol grip works with both bench seat and bucket seat a body cars. You can use an E body console pistol grip in a bucket seat A body if the 71b non console grip is too high for you, but I found the E body pistol grip too short for my tastes even with buckets.
whitepunkonnitro
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Yes, I understand that bracket is ONLY for B Bodies, and I'm not saying anyone should try to use it on an A. What I tried to point out, is that in addition to raising and moving the shifter rearward, that bracket ALSO tilts it back, so that the shifter is completely upright when in neutral. If you install the 71-4 Bench shifter without that bracket, it is tilted forward, as seen in all the pics people have posted on this thread.
To use that shifter in an A body, and have it oriented as it should be, one would have to fabricate some sort of adapter that would tilt it back about 20 degrees.
j par
Well-hung Member
I was wondering if anyone has ever tried doing a little re- shifting
(Cutting and re-welding) under the boot area to correct this problem?
I will see when I get it if I can just lay it back a little, or if i had to raise it to?
The way I see it happening is the original aluminum bracket that bolts to the transmission will have to come off and a new one will have to be made that is clocked a little different than the original. Should be an easy job, just a little time and effort involved.
whitepunkonnitro
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A simple aluminum bracket that raises the shifter about 2 inches, and tilts it back to the upright when in neutral position would be very simple to fabricate. I've driven cars with this shifter...both stock B Body and in an A body the way it's shown in the pics in this thread, and the difference is night and day. It's totally worth whatever it takes to position the shifter to be oriented as intended.
I don't think you'd want to raise the shifter 2". First, I'm pretty sure it would hit the tunnel if you raised it that much. Then you'd need to fabricate new shift linkage, as the stock 4-speed shift rods wouldn't work. And the 71 B body bench handle already sits pretty high in the cabin on an A-body. Raising it two inches would mean you'd have to reach up to shift it. You'd have to go with the E-body handle if you raised the shifter any, unless you wanted your pistol grip to be as high as the steering wheel.
If the angle really bothers you that much, the easiest way to take care of it would be to weld a small pie shaped wedge into the shift handle right above were it mounts into the shifter. The "fix" would stay covered by the shift boot, and if you kept the upper part of the handle cool with a wet rag while welding you wouldn't even need to rechrome the handle.
But seriously, the angle isn't that significant. And as far as "oriented as intended", that handle, or any pistol grip handle for that matter, was never intended to be in an A-body so I don't see how it matters. I personally think the handle works very well just as it is. I actually like the angle of how it sits, and it shifts well.
Same handle in a '71 Roadrunner
Stock E-body handle. More angle than any of them, and that's factory.
whitepunkonnitro
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I see what you mean about the height thing. On a B, that shifter body is actually level with the floor pan when it's installed with the adapter...be yeah, the height seems about right the way you guys have it. As for the angle though...I think you'd need an extra articulation in your wrist to make that feel comfortable in first and third. That idea about taking a small wedge shaped slice from the base of the handle seems to be the perfect solution.
j par
Well-hung Member
:burnout:Got it! !!!!!!:burnout: even got my girlfriend to model the new emblem for us!
Now where do I put that emblem? Or do I just leave it where it's at! ?!:shock:View attachment 20140908_184438.jpg
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Now where do I put that emblem? Or do I just leave it where it's at! ?!:shock:View attachment 20140908_184438.jpg
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360Scamp
Mopar or No Car
Sweet!, leave that emblem right where it is!!!!!!
j par
Well-hung Member
Turns out that pistol grip works perfectly! I'll try and attach a picture here of my son when he was visiting modeling the pistol grip.View attachment 20140913_122018.jpg
360Scamp
Mopar or No Car
Looks awesome!!!!!
j par
Well-hung Member
Hey 360 scanp, I got stuck behind this old bag of dirt in a scamp today he was making a right hand corner and good lord it took him a 2 minutes to eeeaaaaazzzzzzz that thing around the corner!! LOL! what a stock original 2-door classic that was. I rarely see any old people in dusters anymore I catch a few in scamps and swingers here in town in Portland Oregon.
360Scamp
Mopar or No Car
That im aware of, I have the only Scamp in my surrounding area. Everybody oohs and aahs over it
j par
Well-hung Member
I was actually born back East in Michigan. I can only imagine what the salt does to a Mopar there lol. There's quite a few surviving scamps here, but you don't see them everyday that's for sure. Even fewer dusters. Most of which are all done up with a lot of money put into them. I like mine because I think it's the nastiest in town. it's a loud obnoxious nasty beast! Just the way I like it!
j par
Well-hung Member
not technically legal for the street, but legal enough not to get pulled over.
rtee007
Deplorable Texan
j par
Well-hung Member
I did not modify the boot at all I just poked it through the round hole and presto! It became rectangle just like the shifter.:burnout:
but as suggested I had to grind just a little bit off the front face of the bottom of the shifter to get it to fit.
I used a B body shifter boot. It's almost the same size as the A-body, a little smaller, but has the rectangular hole for the pistol grip. I drilled the holes for the trim ring and filled the 4th hole with a plug as it came up short on the tunnel opening.
SpaceDemon
"Wanna toothpick?"
I love the look of these but I also like short throws...I don't think you'd want to raise the shifter 2". First, I'm pretty sure it would hit the tunnel if you raised it that much. Then you'd need to fabricate new shift linkage, as the stock 4-speed shift rods wouldn't work. And the 71 B body bench handle already sits pretty high in the cabin on an A-body. Raising it two inches would mean you'd have to reach up to shift it. You'd have to go with the E-body handle if you raised the shifter any, unless you wanted your pistol grip to be as high as the steering wheel.
If the angle really bothers you that much, the easiest way to take care of it would be to weld a small pie shaped wedge into the shift handle right above were it mounts into the shifter. The "fix" would stay covered by the shift boot, and if you kept the upper part of the handle cool with a wet rag while welding you wouldn't even need to rechrome the handle.
But seriously, the angle isn't that significant. And as far as "oriented as intended", that handle, or any pistol grip handle for that matter, was never intended to be in an A-body so I don't see how it matters. I personally think the handle works very well just as it is. I actually like the angle of how it sits, and it shifts well.
Same handle in a '71 Roadrunner
Stock E-body handle. More angle than any of them, and that's factory.
Do you have any measurements for both of these shifters? I'm actually seeing if I can make a proper bracket to fit the shorter shifter in. fixing the throw, the steep angle, and making it more within reach. I have a few different ideas on how to do it easily; but I don't have any solid numbers to go off of.
GONEFISHIN'
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here's mine ('66 Barracuda)
throw is about 4" max - 1st & 3rd just at the end of my reach, 2nd and 4th really comfortable
throw is about 4" max - 1st & 3rd just at the end of my reach, 2nd and 4th really comfortable
Johnny71dusty
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But what shifter is this ? B or e body bucket shifter ? Or a body bench ? What year ? I like it but looks way shorter than I've seen in other a bodies p
It’s the same ‘71-74 non-console B-body shifter in my car and others here. I think he just took the picture from a different angle…
His Duster
My Duster with the ‘71-74 B-body shifter, from a different angle…
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