Finally getting to it!!! 1970 Duster 340

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My view is, todays paints are so much better than the paint the factory used 48 years ago, I would never use old school single stage on anything that's body color. Well, maybe floor pans and trunk floors for ease of application. If Steve uses base/clear on the exterior of the Duster, and lays the clear down as slick as possible......it may very well have the effect you are looking for as sprayed, minus the cutting and buffing. I don't know Steve personally, but he's been on Moparts since he was a teenager. He is an impressive young man, and I'll bet it was hard for him have that conversation with you about what the finished product you requested may look like. I'll tend to agree with him about the old technology vs new with paint. See what he says about maybe not cutting and buffing the base clear if you decide to go ahead with it in that direction. You could run look at it before he does it to see if what little orange peel in the clear may just be the look that you desire. If it does.....you end up with the best of both worlds. Good luck to you!
 
JDMopar said:
My view is, todays paints are so much better than the paint the factory used 48 years ago, I would never use old school single stage on anything that's body color. Well, maybe floor pans and trunk floors for ease of application. If Steve uses base/clear on the exterior of the Duster, and lays the clear down as slick as possible......it may very well have the effect you are looking for as sprayed, minus the cutting and buffing. I don't know Steve personally, but he's been on Moparts since he was a teenager. He is an impressive young man, and I'll bet it was hard for him have that conversation with you about what the finished product you requested may look like. I'll tend to agree with him about the old technology vs new with paint. See what he says about maybe not cutting and buffing the base clear if you decide to go ahead with it in that direction. You could run look at it before he does it to see if what little orange peel in the clear may just be the look that you desire. If it does.....you end up with the best of both worlds. Good luck to you!
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I think this sounds smart- I don't really care for the "100 point" restorations either, this seems a pretty good compromise...... I have been following your restoration all the way, you've been spot on in my mind, do what you want it will no doubt turn out perfect!
 
FJRdoc said:
I talked with my painter yesterday about the exterior finish of the Duster. I originally decided that I wanted to duplicate the factory finish as much as possible including orange peel. The painter has worked on OE cars before including one that he did for himself. He feels that I will regret painting my car with an original crappy style finish. He feels that it will bother me over time and that most people who look at it will see it as a bad paint job rather than factory correct. I see his point and I can understand that a good painter probably doesn't want to be associated with something that most people see as poor quality. I just thought I would throw this out to the FABO crowd to see what opinions others might have about this isssue.
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I appreciate your painters recommendation....and agree with him.
....well, you asked.
 
I also would use base clear on the car, I have done the single stage orange peel thing in the past, make it slick, you will be happy you did.
 
When your eyes start getting a little weak even the single stage-orange peel looks slick!
 
I have ruminated over the body paint on this car for years. Unlike the factory, we will be painting the jambs, under the hood and deck separately. The single stage Glasurite paint has been mixed and purchased. I still feel that I want some texture on the paint similar to the factory. I always have the option of cutting and buffing the finish later if I decide that I don't like the look. Obviously, It will be more difficult with the car assembled but I can't go back and give it texture after it's been cut and buffed.
 
Factory paint sucks and is best left to the survivor cars. When your car is parked at a cruise night or a show it will be next to a car with nice paint not an orange peeled survivor. To the average person it will look like you went to Maaco.
 
Moparone said:
To the average person it will look like you went to Maaco.
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I have a 27 year old Maaco paint job and is still looks damn good all these years later.
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I understand Moparone, but at this point in my life I really don't car about what somebody thinks about me or my things. In the end, it all comes down to what makes me happy. Every day, I spend my time making people happy or feel better. This restoration comes down to what I want and that's what I'm going to do. I really have no interest in cruise nights or hanging out at local car shows. Call me self-centered but this restoration is all about me.
 
FJRdoc said:
I understand Moparone, but at this point in my life I really don't car about what somebody thinks about me or my things. In the end, it all comes down to what makes me happy. Every day, I spend my time making people happy or feel better. This restoration comes down to what I want and that's what I'm going to do. I really have no interest in cruise nights or hanging out at local car shows. Call me self-centered but this restoration is all about me.
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Glasurit single stage paint made and mixed in 2018 is light years ahead of what the factory used in 69 or 70. Even if your Duster wasn't going to lead a fairly pampered life from here on out, the Glasurit paint would hold up MUCH better than the acrylic enamel that it wore out the door at the factory. Just like at the factory, the amount of texture on any given day will depend on conditions at the time....humidity, temperature, air pressure, etc. I hope it turns out just like you want it, and it puts a big smile on your face every time you pull the cover off of it to go for a ride! And anybody who whines about the little bit of orange peel that you prefer.......tell em to go get heel spurs! :icon_fU::D
 
FJRdoc said:
I understand Moparone, but at this point in my life I really don't car about what somebody thinks about me or my things. In the end, it all comes down to what makes me happy. Every day, I spend my time making people happy or feel better. This restoration comes down to what I want and that's what I'm going to do. I really have no interest in cruise nights or hanging out at local car shows. Call me self-centered but this restoration is all about me.
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I like you doing the paint the way YOU want it.....but why did you bother asking our opinions? Just wondering, my wife does the same thing but I would never ask her....not worth the to price. With you....not a problem.
 
It was my painters idea to ask the forum. After I posted the question, I started to think more about the build and where I wanted it to go. I should have retracted the question. Sorry if I upset any of the FABO members.
 
Shoot it the way you want it.
The same question went thru my head about 10 years ago when I painted my old Willys, I ended up shooting it with single stage, so it did not look over-done.
Get tons of complements, orange peel and all.
 
FJRdoc said:
It was my painters idea to ask the forum. After I posted the question, I started to think more about the build and where I wanted it to go. I should have retracted the question. Sorry if I upset any of the FABO members.
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Impossible to get upset, ....... in the hot rod world, it is outlawed.

....just wonderin' and figured I could ask you and get a straight answer (instead of the death glare I would get from my wife).
 
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I’m just looking forward ( impatiently) to seeing your car in paint Kevin. I’m finding out how long it takes to re-assemble one of these when you have to be so careful and detailed and it was three years since taking it apart.
 
Shoot that thing with single stage paint, and be stoked with a little orange peel finish like the factory.
Youve gone this far replicating a factory finish, with over spray ect. Leave the mirror glass paint jobb for the foose boys. Stick with your plan, and dont look back. :)

Single stage PPG Green Go....Orange peel and all.

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Your Swinger looks great Johnny! I have spent a lot of time restoring components to look original. That's why I decided to go single stage with a bit of texture.
 
Finally some work starting back on the Duster. The shop had a couple of days to work on getting the exterior panels long blocked. Quite a few low spots to take care of on the driver's side.
First round of build primer has been applied to the driver side.
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