Hypothetical 318 Builds

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Thank you for posting JUST a 318 post and made it clear no stroker or "just buy a 360" talk allowed. Posts can get so convoluted with that stuff. Guy asks a questions about a 318 and it always turns to "just buy a 360"
I agree. A lot of times, these guys don't realize that one, a 318 may be all someone has and two, as hard as it may be to believe, a 318 just might be what they WANT. Like me bein a slant 6 guy. I have people all the time askin me "why did you build "THAT", it'll never be a V8?" ......and that's exactly WHY I did it. lol They and the 318 bashers will just never get it. It's like I said in other threads, I'm unsure guys that hate on 318s and slant sixes are true Mopar guys. Those are two of the best engines Chrysler ever made.
 
Just thinking, back in the day Mopar didn't advertise horsepower like Chevy did. Back in the mid to late 60's and early 70's, a 300 horse 327 was a damn good runner. The 350 horse in a Corvette was an animal. Oh, and the 350 horse 350 was a good one too. See what they did there? 350 horse out of a 327 and a 350. Just like us here. Go build your 300 horse Teens and go have fun.
Yeah and don't forget the 327 that also came in 340, 365 and 375HP versions.
 
Yeah and don't forget the 327 that also came in 340, 365 and 375HP versions.
Yep, I purposely left the heavy hitters out. (thinking more fun street engines here) I bet that 375 horse was a nasty Mo Fo. 2.02 double humpers and a big "full race" solid lifter cam. :lol: Then think about the mild combination Hot Rod put together for their 400 horse 318 build. No comparison how easy 400 horse is to get out of a Teen. Better cam technology now days though.
 
GM didn't even have a lean burn system in the 70s.. I mean come on.... 318s were kings of low emissions!
 
GM didn't even have a lean burn system in the 70s.. I mean come on.... 318s were kings of low emissions!
Don't talk too loud about that. The Lean Burn came out in 76' and was known to be the first computer control for American cars. GM started in 77 with a ESC in the Toronados.
 
Don't talk too loud about that. The Lean Burn came out in 76' and was known to be the first computer control for American cars. GM started in 77 with a ESC in the Toronados.
Did they copy how good and dependable the lean burn system was also? :)
 
I'm REALLY bored at work...
Speaking of low emissions and fuel mileage, another pioneer move for Mopar was the lock up torque converter. Back in 78. (that was a very innovative few years for us)
 
Speaking of low emissions and fuel mileage, another pioneer move for Mopar was the lock up torque converter. Back in 78. (that was a very innovative few years for us)
I didn't know mopar came up with that
 
I agree. A lot of times, these guys don't realize that one, a 318 may be all someone has and two, as hard as it may be to believe, a 318 just might be what they WANT. Like me bein a slant 6 guy. I have people all the time askin me "why did you build "THAT", it'll never be a V8?" ......and that's exactly WHY I did it. lol They and the 318 bashers will just never get it. It's like I said in other threads, I'm unsure guys that hate on 318s and slant sixes are true Mopar guys. Those are two of the best engines Chrysler ever made.
Almost every time someone asks me what I have in my Duster, I answer "just a 318." Normal response to that is "nothing wrong with that, one of the best engines ever made". FWIW, I think you running a Slant 6 is cool.
 
Yeah and don't forget the 327 that also came in 340, 365 and 375HP versions.
Richard Holdener dyno the the top hp packages of chev's 302 327 and 350 and all made 350-355 hp in dyno trim. A little off from there ratings but shows 350 hp is a good amount power.
350+hp 318 is a fair easy goal, the 80/90's 5.0l mustang only dynos 265 hp you don't need much hp to have fun.

 
Did they copy how good and dependable the lean burn system was also? :)
When I was doing tech-school '83-'85, My main car pool local's folks had a '77 Chrysler TANK w/a 400 lean-burn, We rode that thing a number of times to school. Ran perfectly, and got~17-18mpg, no balls..but..
 
Yep, I purposely left the heavy hitters out. (thinking more fun street engines here) I bet that 375 horse was a nasty Mo Fo. 2.02 double humpers and a big "full race" solid lifter cam. :lol: Then think about the mild combination Hot Rod put together for their 400 horse 318 build. No comparison how easy 400 horse is to get out of a Teen. Better cam technology now days though.
I bet if spec'd out a 318 with similar cam cr intake carb, would put near the same power with stock heads, I think 318 would come up a little short with no head mods but add a set of X heads bet it smoke the 327.
 
So.. i'm curious.. is the oiling as bad in a small block like some people make it seem? I had a lot of friends spin bearings in small blocks when i was a kid.. but prolly stupid driving..

I see the mods like the crossover in the lifter valley and tubing the oil passages and **** and wonder if it's needed...
 
I need to get my old laptop out with the Desktop Dyno program on it. :poke: :lol: :lol:
It works, like anything else, GIGO....
I have found it to be PDC to My past experiences, all of them, the 1/4 trap speeds and calculated rwhp add up on every one I've retroactively run so far.
 
When I was doing tech-school '83-'85, My main car pool local's folks had a '77 Chrysler TANK w/a 400 lean-burn, We rode that thing a number of times to school. Ran perfectly, and got~17-18mpg, no balls..but..
Lots of reasons for having no balls but usually because of the rear gear. Think of this, a 2.24 rear gear was available in the 8 1/4 rear that came out in 72.
2.24, 2.45, 2.72 and up. Yep, those low ratios and the big car wouldn't fall out of a tree.
 
So.. i'm curious.. is the oiling as bad in a small block like some people make it seem? I had a lot of friends spin bearings in small blocks when i was a kid.. but prolly stupid driving..

I see the mods like the crossover in the lifter valley and tubing the oil passages and **** and wonder if it's needed...
Think that mod is more for high rpm endurance engine maybe super high rpm drag.
My cousin stock car would hit 7000 rpm on the track with stock oil system no damage over several seasons, lots on here rev well into mid/high 6000's without the mod don't hear any complaints.
 
Think that mod is more for high rpm endurance engine maybe super high rpm drag.
My cousin stock would hit 7000 rpm with stock oil system no damage over several seasons, lots on here rev well into mid/high 6000's without the mod don't any complaints.
yeah.. i worry too much and will stay under 6000.. (plus i have no idea how many miles are on my bottom end.. just grabbed something to run) my combo is just a mess at this point :) Plans changed mid build
 
Lots of reasons for having no balls but usually because of the rear gear. Think of this, a 2.24 rear gear was available in the 8 1/4 rear that came out in 72.
2.24, 2.45, 2.72 and up. Yep, those low ratios and the big car wouldn't fall out of a tree.
Or the fact that the 400 was probably lucky to have 7:1 squeeze, it was the best engine Mopar ever built that had no balls...
 
So.. i'm curious.. is the oiling as bad in a small block like some people make it seem? I had a lot of friends spin bearings in small blocks when i was a kid.. but prolly stupid driving..

I see the mods like the crossover in the lifter valley and tubing the oil passages and **** and wonder if it's needed...
The crank is the first to get oil. It sounds like the rod bearings need more. THey usually reduce oil to the top side because it isn't need there as much. IF you rpm a Mopar you need some improvements. 6-8000 rpm. All engines do.
 
I like your idea and build. Mine would be a little different since it would be for a Dakota that would be used as a truck occasionally. Would start with a zero deck build either with stock pistons or kb167 iirc. Since I have them I would use a set of NZ eqs with good valve job and Hughes springs. Spitballing it would wind up at about 10 to 1 compression or so. Probably would use one of the two smallest Hughes 5.9 cams or Oregon regrind 210 or so duration. Stock rockers are fine.. Have a set of Mopar performance mid length headers for it so I would use them. Probably would keep the OBD 1 injection and ignition along with the kegger. Maybe 275 hp and 50ft lbs or so over stock Not a rocket but lots of fun still in the dak and decent mileage to boot. Might even commit sacrilege and use a 4.10 8.8 rear since the dak has a 518.
 
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