I would post their name, that’s bad business.The engine builder
By the way, I feel bad that it’s happened to you, you might’ve saved a lot of us some grief.
I would post their name, that’s bad business.The engine builder
In retrospect, I think it's funny how they call that bronze gear "sacrificial" because it gets eaten up before the cam gear is damaged. Yeah, the cam gear may be saved but how much of the "sacrifice" is pumped into the engine to harm other components? Just kinda funny to me. Gotta laugh at this point... !I would post their name, that’s bad business.
By the way, I feel bad that it’s happened to you, you might’ve saved a lot of us some grief.
What brand of timing cover are you using? I was told to use a reinforced cover.In retrospect, I think it's funny how they call that bronze gear "sacrificial" because it gets eaten up before the cam gear is damaged. Yeah, the cam gear may be saved but how much of the "sacrifice" is pumped into the engine to harm other components? Just kinda funny to me. Gotta laugh at this point... !
I have no idea what is on there.What brand of timing cover are you using? I was told to use a reinforced cover.
I’m glad you posted this “Intermediate Shaft Wear“ question, i’m about to install my hydraulic roller cam.I have no idea what is on there.
I would like to know if that gear was run in a HV/HP pump! I really would like to have a better pump than a stock one, but the warning on the Hughes website is concerning, still.Here’s from another forum “After 7,000 plus miles and hundreds of dragstrip passes, here is what the Crane melonized gear looks like after use with a Howards hydraulic roller cam.”
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Well, the verdict is in. Pulled a valve cover and wiped the rail with my finger onto a blue towel. If you look closely you'll see the small brass "sacrifice". Time to pull the engine.
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Did you cut the filter open?Well, the verdict is in. Pulled a valve cover and wiped the rail with my finger onto a blue towel. If you look closely you'll see the small brass "sacrifice". Time to pull the engine.
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I did not. Since the gear was eaten and I found metal in the oil on the valve cover rail I did not see the point. I'm sure the filter picked up a lot of metal, that's it's job. To me the point of inspecting the filter would be at an oil change to ensure the engine was healthy. I now know it is not. I do really appreciate all the feedback folks have given me on this issue. I'm just concerned now about what I will find in my roller rockers & lifters when I tear things down. They were really expensive...Did you cut the filter open?
mmmrrrppphhh.Well, the verdict is in. Pulled a valve cover and wiped the rail with my finger onto a blue towel. If you look closely you'll see the small brass "sacrifice". Time to pull the engine.
I've got a Howard's roller cam (711915-12) installed in a fresh rebuilt 360. Just recieved a reply back from summit that it is a billet camshaft. It hasn't yet been broken in. Now I'm trying to figure out the best street gear for it. I'm no metallurgist, I currently have a factory used intermediate shaft in it. I've just recently learned about this situation. So we've got steel - bronze - melonized??? - composite - and brass!? I just want to do what's correct for longevity. So what is the correct material for a billet cam? Any part numbers, I do not want to destroy this motor.Thanks, I bought the same Milodon bronze gear for my Howards hydraulic roller cam the one they recommended.
Can you replace just the gear with a melonized one?
I bought the melonized gear from Hughes for a big block. Mines a street driven car.I've got a Howard's roller cam (711915-12) installed in a fresh rebuilt 360. Just recieved a reply back from summit that it is a billet camshaft. It hasn't yet been broken in. Now I'm trying to figure out the best street gear for it. I'm no metallurgist, I currently have a factory used intermediate shaft in it. I've just recently learned about this situation. So we've got steel - bronze - melonized??? - composite - and brass!? I just want to do what's correct for longevity. So what is the correct material for a billet cam? Any part numbers, I do not want to destroy this motor.
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Use a melonized gear when it called for a bronze. Bronze are intended to wear.. setup is key or they'll wear prematurely.The cam is a solid roller (#1476) cam by Oregon Cams. I was told by them to run a brass gear.
I can't get over the price of the damn things!Use a melonized gear when it called for a bronze. Bronze are intended to wear.. setup is key or they'll wear prematurely.
It's used to be cheaper.I can't get over the price of the damn things!
Why are there no billet gears available by the cam manufacturers, probably still cost a lot.
I have a 1990 roller block what did dodge use them? If they didn't use a billet camshaft then why are the manufacturers using billet now.
I had a truck with over 250000 miles no engine issues with that.
I'm ranting sorry.
$240 for a small gear on the end of a shaft.![]()
It's used to be cheaper.
Factory used cast iron camshaft with a huge base circle, I mean huge.. and if you run too much spring.. and thats not hard to do... the core goes bye bye. They used the same old gear as they always did with that cast iron core.
Now billet roller? melonized gear is what I use and never look back. I'm a set it and forget it kinda guy, I hate having to check the bronze every other month... its easy, check the free play at the rotor.. but st
Sigh.It's used to be cheaper.
Factory used cast iron camshaft with a huge base circle, I mean huge.. and if you run too much spring.. and thats not hard to do... the core goes bye bye. They used the same old gear as they always did with that cast iron core.
Now billet roller? melonized gear is what I use and never look back. I'm a set it and forget it kinda guy, I hate having to check the bronze every other month... its easy, check the free play at the rotor.. but still.
Tell me about it, I’ve already bought a bronze gear a year and a half ago. It was $150 then now it’s $200. Add that with the $240 I blew a month ago on a melonized gear. I don’t wanna do it twice or replace a cam.damn that's a lot of $$$
Yeah, and what about all that debris from the worn bronze gear getting into your engine? Ask me how I know. The "sacrificial" gear sacrificed my engine.Tell me about it, I’ve already bought a bronze gear a year and a half ago. It was $150 then now it’s $200. Add that with the $240 I blew a month ago on a melonized gear. I don’t wanna do it twice or replace a cam.