Looking for any documentation '69 Barracuda Fastback

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IMFURYS said:
I'll be honest, I forgot to check for the torque plates.

I do believe it was built very early in the model year. Chrysler/Plymouth started the production year with serial #100001. My sequential number is 115705. so I believe it was the 15,704 car built. If I have the right info; 31,987 6 cylinders were shipped and 20,337 V8's were shipped for a total of 52,324. I need to research the production numbers. I'd really love to find out about what date mine was built. I haven't found out yet if there is anyway to compare the sequential number to a build date.
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So I'm curious, does the casting date on the rear come close to the early build of the car ie last 6 of the vin? My vin is 305604 and was built 2.26 69
 
4spdragtop said:
George my 67 S is, but my 69 is a "plain jane" S....front drums lol.
So comparing to IMFURYS car would be difficult.
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but check but OP should check Hamtramck website out.
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Well if your 69 is a very than most likely it has a sway bar. If it's not a vert nor a perf. Pkg car and has a sway bar than what I thought may be correct. That they all came with sway bars, just not the heavy duty one
 
IMFURYS said:
Hello, and thank you in advance for any help anyone might be able to provide. I am looking for any documentation, or really anything, related to a 69 Barracuda Fastback. The Vin is BH29P9B115705. Here's my story on it:

I bought this 69 Barracuda fastback from a guy in CA/AZ in 2012. He told me he had bought the car at a police auction in Orange County, CA in 2006. He said it was (plus his pictures) mostly stripped ( engine, trans, parts of interior, front fenders were not originals, and had '68 hood) but body was good (no rust found anywhere and only minor dents). He said he thought he had the fender tag and receipt from buying it. So we made a deal on it and he actually delivered it to me in VA (for an additional fee of course) as he and his daughter rode in their RV to a country music festival in TN. When he gave it to me I asked where the fender tag was. He said I haven't had time to look, it's either in the car (full of junk from floor to roof) or it's in my office at my business. He said the build sheet should be in there though somewhere. Well I've stripped the car to a shell and there is no fender tag or build sheet anywhere. I tried to call him a few times after I completed my search. At first he told me he hadn't found the fender tag in his office yet, but would look. After about 4-6 more calls, he no longer answered me by phone or e-mail. So I guess that's a dead end.

I've tried to look it up in the Hamtramack registry and under lost and found on here with no luck. I have is the VIN decoded as:

B-BARRACUDA

H-BARRACUDA

29-2 Dr. Sports Hardtop

P-340 CI

9-Model Year

B-Hamtramack Assembly Plant

115705- Production # (I don't even know how to relate that to date it might have been built)

I am sure the original color was Sunfire Yellow with black deluxe interior (Interior Decor Package or maybe sport package?), Rallye Instrument Cluster (has 150 speedometer but no tach or performance indicator in the middle), Automatic with console and bucket seats (seats were gone when I got it), Front Disc Brakes. The rear is a Sure Grip (I believe either a 3.90 or 4.10 ratio). I would love to find out if this car was a Formula S or at least had the sport package.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Since the body is so good (I guess being from CA, the body held up well, I wanted to restore it as much as possible to original look, but without really any history to go on, not sure I'll go that route.

Thanks again guys.

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Both my 67 fback and 69 vert are Formula S cars. Sorry George, I misunderstood your question. 741 in my 67 and 489 in my 69.
A56 said:
Well if your 69 is a very than most likely it has a sway bar. If it's not a vert nor a perf. Pkg car and has a sway bar than what I thought may be correct. That they all came with sway bars, just not the heavy duty one
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IMFURYS said:
Hello, and thank you in advance for any help anyone might be able to provide. I am looking for any documentation, or really anything, related to a 69 Barracuda Fastback. The Vin is BH29P9B115705. Here's my story on it:

I bought this 69 Barracuda fastback from a guy in CA/AZ in 2012. He told me he had bought the car at a police auction in Orange County, CA in 2006. He said it was (plus his pictures) mostly stripped ( engine, trans, parts of interior, front fenders were not originals, and had '68 hood) but body was good (no rust found anywhere and only minor dents). He said he thought he had the fender tag and receipt from buying it. So we made a deal on it and he actually delivered it to me in VA (for an additional fee of course) as he and his daughter rode in their RV to a country music festival in TN. When he gave it to me I asked where the fender tag was. He said I haven't had time to look, it's either in the car (full of junk from floor to roof) or it's in my office at my business. He said the build sheet should be in there though somewhere. Well I've stripped the car to a shell and there is no fender tag or build sheet anywhere. I tried to call him a few times after I completed my search. At first he told me he hadn't found the fender tag in his office yet, but would look. After about 4-6 more calls, he no longer answered me by phone or e-mail. So I guess that's a dead end.

I've tried to look it up in the Hamtramack registry and under lost and found on here with no luck. I have is the VIN decoded as:

B-BARRACUDA

H-BARRACUDA

29-2 Dr. Sports Hardtop

P-340 CI

9-Model Year

B-Hamtramack Assembly Plant

115705- Production # (I don't even know how to relate that to date it might have been built)

I am sure the original color was Sunfire Yellow with black deluxe interior (Interior Decor Package or maybe sport package?), Rallye Instrument Cluster (has 150 speedometer but no tach or performance indicator in the middle), Automatic with console and bucket seats (seats were gone when I got it), Front Disc Brakes. The rear is a Sure Grip (I believe either a 3.90 or 4.10 ratio). I would love to find out if this car was a Formula S or at least had the sport package.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Since the body is so good (I guess being from CA, the body held up well, I wanted to restore it as much as possible to original look, but without really any history to go on, not sure I'll go that route.

Thanks again guys.

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Theres a 69 yellow fastback barracuda on ebay that was built in August of 68 and the last 6 is 106258. Not sure how many the built per day but you can figure yours was close to that date
 
A56 said:
So I'm curious, does the casting date on the rear come close to the early build of the car ie last 6 of the vin? My vin is 305604 and was built 2.26 69
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Is the casting date the smaller numbers below the 2077041 and in front of the 26? There are some smaller numbers there, but can't tell if it just says 222 or if there is a number in front and/or behind the 222? It's hard to tell, even getting up close and blowing up the pics if they are numbers. The 222 is easy to see, but in front and behind it looks like just raised metal, hard to tell if they are numbers or not.

Thanks again,
Dan
 
Dan heres away bar(0.8790" dia) and 489 from my 69. Those mark's by the smaller numbers are screw/rivet mark's from the tag in the casting. You can see them clearly on mine. Your #'s are 222.
Sorry bout the dust lol.
IMFURYS said:
Is the casting date the smaller numbers below the 2077041 and in front of the 26? There are some smaller numbers there, but can't tell if it just says 222 or if there is a number in front and/or behind the 222? It's hard to tell, even getting up close and blowing up the pics if they are numbers. The 222 is easy to see, but in front and behind it looks like just raised metal, hard to tell if they are numbers or not.

Thanks again,
Dan
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IMFURYS said:
Is the casting date the smaller numbers below the 2077041 and in front of the 26? There are some smaller numbers there, but can't tell if it just says 222 or if there is a number in front and/or behind the 222? It's hard to tell, even getting up close and blowing up the pics if they are numbers. The 222 is easy to see, but in front and behind it looks like just raised metal, hard to tell if they are numbers or not.

Thanks again,
Dan
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Here is something else that may apply. found it on Mymopar.com

Any 8-3/4" center section may be interchanged for another as an entire assembly, with the exception of center sections manufactured prior to model year 1964 (See Section 1: "Thrust Block Variations").
 
A56 said:
Here is something else that may apply. found it on Mymopar.com

Any 8-3/4" center section may be interchanged for another as an entire assembly, with the exception of center sections manufactured prior to model year 1964 (See Section 1: "Thrust Block Variations").
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The two Sure Grip types can be interchanged between the carriers if the matching differential axle bearings are retained. The outside diameter of the cups are the same between the '741'/'742' and the '489'; the inner cone differs.
 
A56 said:
The two Sure Grip types can be interchanged between the carriers if the matching differential axle bearings are retained. The outside diameter of the cups are the same between the '741'/'742' and the '489'; the inner cone differs.
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Hey thanks again for the great information. Sadly though, I think I'm reaching the point where I'm going to put it up for sale. I still have house projects going on and I need to re-restore my '72 Fury III with 48,500 miles on it. It was pretty close to being a show car and surely turned heads whenever I took it out. Now, that has sat too and I need to go back over it. I actually have 2 build sheets, fender tag and a couple of records of its past. That one is stored over my son's house under a carport, where my barracuda was in my dad's garage, but got moved out for me, which I found out when I went to look it over and get pics.
It's a really, really hard choice as the Barracuda was my first car and a 69 340S fastback has been my dream car since I sold the first Barracuda back in high school. However, I learned to drive on early 70's Furys and the one I have is very close to how it left the showroom floor. If I had that kind of documentation for the cuda, and it showed it was an S, then I'd keep it and sell the Fury (at a big loss). Pics of Fury below,
Got some thinking to do, but I feel it going to have to be the Barracuda go. Sucks.

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from what I can tell of the back seat black cover....that's the better or up grade from my base 69 Formula S.
 
Hello, thank you for that.
I just wish I had the rest of the seats. It does appear like it had the deluxe interior.
Still trying to decide on holding on to it for after I go thru my '72 Fury III or going ahead and selling it and hope to find another one later.

Thanks again,
Dan
 
Hello everyone, sorry for the bump to an old thread.

I'm Dan's (ImFurys) son. Unfortunately, my father passed away in January. Fortunately, he did not end up selling the Barracuda as he mentioned and instead left it to me. He also left my sister the Fury. He was never able to get around to doing any restoration on either car though. The Fury runs, just isn't as pretty as she used to be. The Barracuda is still a rolling shell. I would really like to try and restore it for him myself but have no idea where to even begin.

Although I liked working on cars with him when I was younger, it's not my forte. I found this thread by searching the VIN since that's pretty much all I had to start with. I know how to do more basic stuff and I can usually figure out how to do something by watching a video or two. However a full restoration is a completely different ball game. I was hoping that someone would be able to give me some tips or can point me in the right direction to good information on the subject.

I know that he has a ton of parts that I still need to pick up. I'm not sure exactly how much, he has boxes everywhere labeled for the cuda/fury. He was constantly buying parts and storing them for when he could finally start working.
 
Sorry to hear about your fathers passing. Hopefully there is a member near you that could lend some guidance to putting the car back together.
 
Yep - really sorry to learn about your dad passing. My dad was hard bent into early Mustangs starting around 1976 after fixing one up for my older sister who was about 25yrs old at the time.
Funny it seamed we all got off trying to figure out that car from the optional parts. A performance Mopar would usually always come from the factory with two muffler hanger brackets you can see from the inside where the back seat goes - one should be bolted thru and the other spot welded. If your car has the valance which is below the rear bumper it should have the two square cut outs for the chrome tips that came with a 340 or 383 motor.

Wonder if your dad had bought some shop manuals for it - or he could have bought the CD's they have now - that would help with the parts and build.

Any way good luck with it - it did look like a good car to build how ever which way you go and again sorry about your dad.

Lawrence
 
Thanks for joining FABO and reviving your Dads thread. All of our condolences on Dads passing.
I believe that @moparmat2000 was a friend of Dads? I know Matt is a busy guy, but you would be hard pressed to find someone more skilled/knowledgeable with cudas. Maybe he is close?
Try not to get overwhelmed with finishing it asap OR with it being perfect.
Get it functional.
Good luck, ask questions and lots of them is ok.
 
Thank you all for your condolences and replies. He had a "Cuda bible" a giant like 4" binder full of papers, notes, codes, service manuals etc. I haven't had a chance to go through it all yet. It's not organized in any way, so that's why I wasn't sure where to even start.

I will try to reach out to Moparmat and see if he's able to help out anymore.

Thank you again,

Jarrett
 
Hi FurysJr ,

Dan and I were good friends going back a number of years. My son and I road tripped from Texas in 2019 to visit my folks, and my brother, and made a stop to visit your dad and see his barracuda collection.

Dan made us a special set of 69 barracuda books for our 69 coupe formula S tribute restoration. When I heard from Lisa of his passing it felt like a ton of bricks fell on me. I just lost my pops in december, and then your dad. The last time I talked w him before things took a turn for the worst he seemed upbeat. Then I had not heard anything. I reached out to Lisa and got the bad news.

Jarrett I am so sorry for your loss. As Dan's son it's got to be terribly hard. I was just Dan's online mopar penpal, for about 4-5 years and it cut me pretty deep over his loss. The manuals he sent has pix of my son working on the cuda that he pulled from our build thread making his manuals extra special. There was something he sent me written on a piece of paper I have kept in my wallet. Your dad was a special guy, but then again I'm sure you know that. I miss talking w your Dad about all things barracuda, just like I miss talking to my dad about all things mopar and model A Ford.

Dan had ideas on how he wanted the barracuda. I remember a lot of what he talked about as far as colors and options etc. I tried to give him some ideas, and help him out.

He was always having me make him stuff for this build. You will also find boxes of stuff like the seatbelt mounts for modern shoulder belts. Dan was always asking questions and writing this stuff down to archive it. Theres a Dan Kelly wiring harness for the console that's custom. It has additional lighting for the storage area and ashtray. He called me Sensei and I called him grasshopper. So that's the joke in the last pic. It's what I keep in my wallet to remind me of your dad.

I am all the way in Abilene Tx. Send me a PM and maybe we can exchange phone numbers. If I can help you with what your dads vision of the barracuda was supposed to be I would love to. He has quite the collection of NOS and repop parts for it. A lot of the hard work which is finding all that hard to find stuff is done.

Keep in touch
Your dads friend
Matt

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moparmat2000 said:
Hi FurysJr ,

Dan and I were good friends going back a number of years. My son and I road tripped from Texas in 2019 to visit my folks, and my brother, and made a stop to visit your dad and see his barracuda collection.

Dan made us a special set of 69 barracuda books for our 69 coupe formula S tribute restoration. When I heard from Lisa of his passing it felt like a ton of bricks fell on me. I just lost my pops in december, and then your dad. The last time I talked w him before things took a turn for the worst he seemed upbeat. Then I had not heard anything. I reached out to Lisa and got the bad news.

Jarrett I am so sorry for your loss. As Dan's son it's got to be terribly hard. I was just Dan's online mopar penpal, for about 4-5 years and it cut me pretty deep over his loss. The manuals he sent has pix of my son working on the cuda that he pulled from our build thread making his manuals extra special. There was something he sent me written on a piece of paper I have kept in my wallet. Your dad was a special guy, but then again I'm sure you know that. I miss talking w your Dad about all things barracuda, just like I miss talking to my dad about all things mopar and model A Ford.

Dan had ideas on how he wanted the barracuda. I remember a lot of what he talked about as far as colors and options etc. I tried to give him some ideas, and help him out.

He was always having me make him stuff for this build. You will also find boxes of stuff like the seatbelt mounts for modern shoulder belts. Dan was always asking questions and writing this stuff down to archive it. Theres a Dan Kelly wiring harness for the console that's custom. It has additional lighting for the storage area and ashtray. He called me Sensei and I called him grasshopper. So that's the joke in the last pic. It's what I keep in my wallet to remind me of your dad.

I am all the way in Abilene Tx. Send me a PM and maybe we can exchange phone numbers. If I can help you with what your dads vision of the barracuda was supposed to be I would love to. He has quite the collection of NOS and repop parts for it. A lot of the hard work which is finding all that hard to find stuff is done.

Keep in touch
Your dads friend
Matt

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Hi Matt, thank you for your reply and I'm very sorry to hear about your father too.

Dad always told me about a friend he would send die cast cars to, I just never knew who it actually was. I remember buying the Coke car that your son is holding in his left hand. Dad would have me keep an eye out for certain cars or I would see a few myself I thought he'd like and get them for him. Most of the ones he asked me about were ones that he wanted to send to you. I'm glad that you and him were friends, you were a huge help in all of his car endeavors and I know that he's very grateful for it. He would be extremely happy that you would still be helping to bring his dream car to life. I guess I'll be taking his role of grasshopper now lol.

I am hoping to get the car towed to my house soon, maybe today or tomorrow. I'm also going to start picking up all the parts later today. Shortly after he passed Lisa got Covid and we weren't able to go over for a while. She's finally in the clear so we can start moving stuff again. He never told me exactly what he wanted it to look like, I just know he wanted it Plum Crazy Purple, my favorite color as well. Being that he already does have a lot of the parts, I would like to get started as soon as I could.

The last major thing that Dad was able to do was be the best man at my wedding in October. After the wedding his health started declining pretty fast. He was doing so well and it seemed like he would still be around for a while. But then the cancer came back with a vengeance. I'm so thankful that he was able to make it and see his last child get married before he passed.

Here is a few good pictures from the wedding in case you haven't seen them.

Talk to you soon,
Jarrett

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Sorry to hear about your dad. He was a very nice guy. I wish you luck with the Barracuda
 
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