Maybe an other head producer in the game.
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I’m shocked that’s all they flow because I had mine up over 300cfm on a “calibrated” flowbench with a 3/8 stem 2.02 intake valve. With that said you have to understand W2 heads. A stock head on my bench hit [email protected] then fell on its face. When you port them that number only goes right up along with the upper numbers. They are an awesome head.
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B3422w5
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Nice
I find it hard to believe those heads only flow 296cfm. They have a 2.08 valve right ???
Is that their own casting or are they still porting Eddys?
B3422w5
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Yes. I believe that is what those guys said they flowed.
My W5’s went 301 at Best machine, and a set just like them went 299 on Vic’s bench.
Must be a very conservative bench he has, as the other poster noted, he makes a solid 680 horse at the track with them, and the short block is far from fancy. No trick rings or vacuum pump either.
Think it’s only about 11.5 compression too. Mine is a little higher because I milled the heads a little
B3422w5
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An overseas completely bare casting with no holes they put Vic Bloomers port in, and then Bischoff’s(BES) machines them. Vic and Rod set them up( springs,valves etc) and Vic was doing his own valve job on them.
More recent sets I think Bischoff’s is doing the valve jobs, per how Vic wants done.
Lots of fingers on these heads. Everyone gets a cut.
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I've been using a ton of engine pro products for the last 15 years. I recommended the numerous times here and almost nobody takes notice lol
No holes as in no ports, no seats, no pushrod holes
I see more people repairing broken stuff on power adder engines than racing them. It's one thing after another.
B3422w5
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Not really. Vic designed the head by himself, and the cnc program to machine the heads as well. Years ago Vic did all the iron head CNC stuff for Hughes.
BES is a super respected machine shop, any head on the planet has to get machined.
The issue with the original head was Vic wasn’t involved.
I think the price is very fair. Close in price to the Trick Flow head, and makes way more power.
I was second on the original list in line to get a set of Trick flows. I gave a guy on this forum my place in line once I heard Vic designed this head and spent almost 3 years in his spare time doing it.
I am happy, as is everyone else I am aware of who has them.
Mopar small block community is lucky to have guys like you and Vic.
B3422w5
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I’d love to see a picture of the bare heads as received and a flow sheet. You didn’t answer or i
Missed the question about a 2.08 valve.
9secRR
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i think it's fair to say the Bloomer heads are the real deal. the AMX proves it. 9.40's is very respectable for only a few passes. i was going to talk Vic about his heads but i got lucky and picked up W8's from a friend.
I don't know if I will ever get the opportunity. but I would really like to try these heads on a short block with about 14.5 compression gas ported pistons and an 043 ring pack
B3422w5
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Sorry, I answered that by saying yes, probably should have been more clear.
yes, 2.08 intake, 1.60 exhaust, and the port is right at 200cc, it’s 199.xx
B3422w5
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Yea, we both have the old dinosaur ring pack slugs, yours are the Icon flat tops too, right?
I think they are Race Tech. But I could be wrong. The pistons and the crank have Bloomer performance written on them. The crank is a K1 forging machined to Bloomers specs.
I agree but I’d love to see a flow sheet.
B3422w5
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I have never seen a flow sheet Vic did on them, or even asked I don’t think.
I do know they don’t begin to fall off until past 650 lift, which I why I wish my cam that I already had was more than 565 gross lift before deflection and lash. Is what it is I guess.
At one time I know Vic sent a head to Larry Meaux to see what he thought of it before he was done with the project.
Been a while since I’ve had anyone’s fingers on my head…. Maybe I’m barking up the wrong tree?
Don't change your mind lolBeen a while since I’ve had anyone’s fingers on my head…. Maybe I’m barking up the wrong tree?
EdsWelding
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You can't find a better guy alive than Larry Meaux to give an opinion on what you are doing ! He is the KING of cyl. head flow and how to make power, just ask Chad Speier who's another great cyl' head flow guy. Watch out for his SS/GTFA Cavalier this year with a 1970 LT-1 350 combo in NHRA.
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