Metal in oil

[Newbomb Turk]

Look closer. There's a smaller inner spring on the inside of the dampers.

Yup, I see them now.

I take that shitty little wire damper out. All they do is eat retainers and fill the engine with dirt.

So it’s a double with a damper. It must be a cheap spring otherwise they’d be way too much for what the OP is doing.

Or replace that spring with a good single spring.

 

[4spdragtop]

That's what I thought in one of those pics.

Look closer. There's a smaller inner spring on the inside of the dampers.

 

[Newbomb Turk]

That's what I thought in one of those pics.

Looking at pictures on this phone sucks lol.

I looked pretty close at the pictures and still missed it.

Sucks getting old.

 

[4spdragtop]

Looks like a quality build, ARP bolts all marked after torqued. 12 pt. intake bolts, viton valve seals.
Shine a light in on dampers, see if they appear to be rubbing?

 

[Fittrjoe]

Look closer. There's a smaller inner spring on the inside of the dampers.

Ok …but the Dampers ARE dirty/ shed metal correct?
Who are the fans of magnets in the drain areas, beside Perfacar?

 

[Fittrjoe]

Looks like a quality build, ARP bolts all marked after torqued. 12 pt. intake bolts, viton valve seals.
Shine a light in on dampers, see if they appear to be rubbing?

Dampers definitely appear to be rubbing on the inside of the outer spring.
****.
Never messed with springs.
Maybe I’ll leave and just do magnets for now until I can get it to someone who knows what the heck they’re doin.
Al least I feel better that Y’all helped me find source.
Appreciate all the wisdom here.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Looking at pictures on this phone sucks lol.

I looked pretty close at the pictures and still missed it.

Sucks getting old.

It's ok. It took me a second, too. I had to decide whether or not I was seeing a shadow......it's not. They're dual sprAngs with a damper.

 

[Newbomb Turk]

It's ok. It took me a second, too. I had to decide whether or not I was seeing a shadow......it's not. They're dual sprAngs with a damper.

The wife said I need new glasses. I’m going to ignore her for as long as I can.

 

[RustyRatRod]

The wife said I need new glasses. I’m going to ignore her for as long as I can.

I wouldn't.

 

[perfacar]

wether you're a fan or not, truth is, pot holder magnets work period!!!! springs and dampners are the biggest trash makers in an engine. put them in and see . i'm not b## sh##ting any one, they flat work,

 

[RustyRatRod]

wether you're a fan or not, truth is, pot holder magnets work period!!!! springs and dampners are the biggest trash makers in an engine. put them in and see . i'm not b## sh##ting any one, they flat work,

I've not seen anyone argue the point.

 

[Fittrjoe]

wether you're a fan or not, truth is, pot holder magnets work period!!!! springs and dampners are the biggest trash makers in an engine. put them in and see . i'm not b## sh##ting any one, they flat work,

For sure gonna do it.
Thanks so much for great advice … now just wanna make sure placement is correct
PM sent

 

[RustyRatRod]

Did you check the position of the rocker shafts?

 

[Fittrjoe]

Did you check the position of the rocker shafts?

I did on the drivers side and couldn’t get a good picture… but yes, there is a “slot/hole” where you said … front and pointing toward engine

 

[RustyRatRod]

I did on the drivers side and couldn’t get a good picture… but yes, there is a notch where you said … front and pointing toward engine

And the passenger's side?

 

[Fittrjoe]

And the passenger's side?

Haven’t pulled that valve cover yet, but will tomorrow , to inspect and add magnets.
Started cleaning Bulkhead Connectors then ran out of time .
Definitely a “ slot / hole” where you said on drivers side.
Will be first thing I look for on passenger side tomorrow

 

[RustyRatRod]

Haven’t pulled that valve cover yet, but will tomorrow , to inspect and add magnets.
Started cleaning Bulkhead Connectors then ran out of time .
Definitely a “ slot / hole” where you said on drivers side.
Will be first thing I look for on passenger side tomorrow

Good. That means hopefully it's right on the passenger's side.

 

[Newbomb Turk]

I wouldn't.

I have to. If I go get my eyes checked when she tells me she wins lol.

I have to give it a week or two so it looks like my idea.

 

[RustyRatRod]

I have to. If I go get my eyes checked when she tells me she wins lol.

I have to give it a week or two so it looks like my idea.

Stop bein stupid and get your eyes checked. Take it from somebody who has lost one. They're pretty important.

 

[RustyRatRod]

I have to. If I go get my eyes checked when she tells me she wins lol.

I have to give it a week or two so it looks like my idea.

Should I go ahead and send you a white tipped cane?

 

[Fittrjoe]

Good. That means hopefully it's right on the passenger's side.

Ok. Pics of passengers side
Looks clean like other side
No metal debris inside valve cover.
Slot/ hole on bottom on bottom of rocker shaft in rear ( firewall side) like you said.
Same deal with dampers …
Rod clearances definitely OK

 

[RustyRatRod]

Looks like plenty of oil is gettin to the top too.

 

[4spdragtop]

I'm thinking there MIGHT be galling on rockers-shaft?? You would have to remove shaft to confirm.

 

[4spdragtop]

With shafts off that would give you opportunity to inspect springs etc. One thing tho, the factory service manual is WRONG with rocker shaft hold down bolt torque. I think FSM states 30 lb/ft, it SHOULD be 15lb/ft. Someone else please confirm this(I'm wrong lots lol)

 

[RustyRatRod]

With shafts off that would give you opportunity to inspect springs etc. One thing tho, the factory service manual is WRONG with rocker shaft hold down bolt torque. I think FSM states 30 lb/ft, it SHOULD be 15lb/ft. Someone else please confirm this(I'm wrong lots lol)

Yeah, I think it's like 15-17. There's a range. I just forget exactly what it is. 15 would be fine. I agree with removing the rocker shafts. That way, he could 100% inspect the pushrods for contact. Sometimes you cannot see it without disassembly.