For the car, took out all the Honda seat belts (guess thats what they were) took out the back seat to get to, guy had a plywood board jammed in there, had to cut it in half to get out. I was going to use the seatbelt bolts for exhaust hangers, decided to use the factory location on driver side and add the bracket on passenger side - next weekend I am hopeful after this little break I can get some flow going and make some good progress - hopefully we can get some dry warm weather here in the pacific north swamp