My Dart Swinger Project!

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Your welder doesn't have the power for .035 wire. Get back down, to.030 which I think is the smallest, get a good wire capable of doing multiple pass, new tips (good ones), and yeah, slow the speed of wire down, heat up. But personally, I would open the bevel up a little past 90, and do multiple pass. With the cut inside, that would be my choice. Unless you grind and put a cover pipe over... That is an option as well.
 
dartfreak75 said:
This whole entire project is setup for failure.
1 lack of money
2 lack of time
3 lack of resources (tools etc)
4 lack of proper space (no garage)
5 lack of experience
But what I do have is a determination to learn and patience to correct my mistakes and practice till I get it right.
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Go Get 'em DartFreak75
I think you are making good progress, learning as you go . . that is what this car stuff is all about. Indirectly you are learning a new skill of welding that will pay dividends for many many years to come on other projects that you dream up and make. Great for repair work too, do it yourself and you are not waiting on someone else and the money stays in your pocket.

I have to kind of chuckle of all the different opinions and suggestions 2, 3, 4 passes . . . more is better . . don't think so.
It is an 1/8" tube you are welding together, get a good close fit. One pass and you are done. Welding has 60,000 lbs tensile strength per inch on a clean pure weld.

Take in the information, follow your own head and you will get it done.
Good For You: DartFreak75 . . .
 
George Jets said:
Go Get 'em DartFreak75
I think you are making good progress, learning as you go . . that is what this car stuff is all about. Indirectly you are learning a new skill of welding that will pay dividends for many many years to come on other projects that you dream up and make. Great for repair work too, do it yourself and you are not waiting on someone else and the money stays in your pocket.

I have to kind of chuckle of all the different opinions and suggestions 2, 3, 4 passes . . . more is better . . don't think so.
It is an 1/8" tube you are welding together, get a good close fit. One pass and you are done. Welding has 60,000 lbs tensile strength per inch on a clean pure weld.

Take in the information, follow your own head and you will get it done.
Good For You: DartFreak75 . . .
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That tube is thicker than 1/8"... Multiple pass welding is for welders that are a little small for the job. He is coming along as a weldor. Though.
 
Eye on the Prize

Your 8.8 will look good up there in your 75 Dart, painted up and all, disc brakes etc.
(kind of like this 8 3/4 in a Dart but with the Cover on the back)

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moparmat2000 said:
You cannot use that flux core welder to weld the tubes to the housing since the housing is cast iron. That will need to be done with a TIG welder and a certain type of rod. Cant remember which rod they mentioned in a video I watched. I do know flux core and mig solid core wire machines wont do it. All the factory did was press the tube in and plug weld the tube in a handful of locations.

You dont need to pre heat the tube, if the machines turned up for the heat all the way, then slow down the wire feed, and work the puddle slower.
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It is a good chance that center section is cast steel, instead of cast iron. Hit it with a grinder quick, if it throws a nice stream of sparks it is cast steel and you can weld right to it.
 
kgip2k said:
I agree, but will disagree. Flux welds a little hotter than mig. Just like running straight co, runs hotter than 75-25 gas on a mig. Now, I will say, it has to be Clean, he better have his A-game on, and he better have the right wire. As long as he stays away from the single pass wire, he should be ok. But that turns around and complicates the other passes. Hard to control warpage with 3-4 passes. Can I ask a question? What is with cutting the middle of the tube? Why not just the outside end, put in a new axle end, weld it in and call it a day?
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Well the reason you cant just cut the end off is because the end of the housing is tapered and is a different diameter. The reason mine is so far in the middle is I messed up. I made a mistake I did my measurements and marked where to cut I was supposed to make the outside cut first so the end would fall off and then I could cut the 2nd time from the housing end. But I foolishly made the inside cut first . So then the loose end was the end that needed to be cut and it was impossible to hold it still and cut it so I made my 2nd cut from the housing end which moved my weld point towards the middle more than I wanted .
 
kgip2k said:
Your welder doesn't have the power for .035 wire. Get back down, to.030 which I think is the smallest, get a good wire capable of doing multiple pass, new tips (good ones), and yeah, slow the speed of wire down, heat up. But personally, I would open the bevel up a little past 90, and do multiple pass. With the cut inside, that would be my choice. Unless you grind and put a cover pipe over... That is an option as well.
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It says in the manual it can run .035 and it runs it better imo.
 
George Jets said:
Go Get 'em DartFreak75
I think you are making good progress, learning as you go . . that is what this car stuff is all about. Indirectly you are learning a new skill of welding that will pay dividends for many many years to come on other projects that you dream up and make. Great for repair work too, do it yourself and you are not waiting on someone else and the money stays in your pocket.

I have to kind of chuckle of all the different opinions and suggestions 2, 3, 4 passes . . . more is better . . don't think so.
It is an 1/8" tube you are welding together, get a good close fit. One pass and you are done. Welding has 60,000 lbs tensile strength per inch on a clean pure weld.

Take in the information, follow your own head and you will get it done.
Good For You: DartFreak75 . . .
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Thanks man I really appreciate that. I get frustrated when people say oh just pay someone to do it for you. I understand that something's just cant be done without proper tools and skills. The skills part I'm working on. I'd much rather spend extra time and learn to do it myself than pay someone to do it for me and never know how to do it. This is my project I want to do everything myself. Minus the machine work on the engine obviously i can't go buy a mill. Haha. I see it alot not just here people hating on harbor freight flux core welders. I wonder If they have any experience with them or they just hate them because they are cheap? So far I love mine I'm not the greatest welder but I have fixed alot of stuff with mine and it has worked perfectly everytime and the welds are strong. Iv used it on my lca bushing, fixed my lawnmower deck, gunsmithing projects, some random stuff around the house, and just playing around welding scrap pieces together like above. And never had trouble with it.
 
Yeah I always say it is the secondary effect to the original idea is where the "Gold" lies. Right now you are learning to weld while on a mission to get an upgraded rear end in your 75 Dart. That welding skill is the Gold you are uncovering right now.

Learning to weld and you can build all kinds of cool things in the future. Like building these Dune Buggy / Sand Rails. Welded these all together, bent the tubing with my home made dies mounted on my wood splitter for the hydraulics, and used a Degree Wheel to measure the angles of all the bends while bending them.

So yeah, all done in house, with tools I made myself. Welded the bending dies together with the Wire Feed too.

Many uses for that Welder . . .

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As much fun to make as they were to use . . .
 
Jadaharabi said:
George show a picture of your hydraulic log splitter pipe bender.
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OK
Got to go out and grab some pictures.

The Degree Wheel for measuring the pipe bend angles is the same Degree Wheel that we use for Degreeing in our Mopar Cam Shafts. lol . . .
 
As someone who burns wire every day for a living, i will say this.

Would i weld my axle with flux core....

Yes and no.

No beacuse i have a bad *** machine at the shop.

Yes beacuse if that sucker broke and i was out in the woods with a stack of batteries and a welding lead, i would weld it it with a dam stick lead and a coat hanger if i had to and i bet it would work....

Just keep going.

Clean, clean clean and clean again.
Clean the ground clamp, clean everything.

Good job man! You got the right attitude, you will get it right.
 
Cope said:
As someone who burns wire every day for a living, i will say this.

Would i weld my axle with flux core....

Yes and no.

No beacuse i have a bad *** machine at the shop.

Yes beacuse if that sucker broke and i was out in the woods with a stack of batteries and a welding lead, i would weld it it with a dam stick lead and a coat hanger if i had to and i bet it would work....

Just keep going.

Clean, clean clean and clean again.
Clean the ground clamp, clean everything.

Good job man! You got the right attitude, you will get it right.
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Just an FYI if I ever get into a situation like this just tell me "I can't do it!"....
 
Buddy then id be lying to ya. Ive seen your wedding. It has come a long way from your shifter mount or what ever it was that i started bagging on ya about.
 
Cope said:
Buddy then id be lying to ya. Ive seen your wedding. It has come a long way from your shifter mount or what ever it was that i started bagging on ya about.
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Just the other day I fired up that welder for the first time and then it must have been a year. A customer's 51 Chevy we were putting an S10 axle and I was welding the purtches on. oh my goodness it was the ugliest blobs you never wanted to see in your life! LOL I ground them down and put a lot of paint LOL...
 
In fact im in the process of rebuilding a stupid complex overdrive auto trans..
I can remember when a certain member, (i wont mention any names, @j par ) said i could do it and personally took his time to walk me through it over the phone....

Sometimes all it takes it a push in the right direction and someone who has already been down that road...

Thanks for all the help bud!
 
Cope said:
In fact im in the process of rebuilding a stupid complex overdrive auto trans..
I can remember when a certain member, (i wont mention any names, @j par ) said i could do it and personally took his time to walk me through it over the phone....

Sometimes all it takes it a push in the right direction and someone who has already been down that road...

Thanks for all the help bud!
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Anytime you need a kick in the butt my foot's ready! LOL it was my pleasure...:thumbsup:
 
Dart freak, if you ever need welding help just shoot me a PM and i will give you my cell number.
 
My friend is still enjoying his Trans Am and taking it on trips with the turbo 350 I rebuilt for him. After doing that 904 it gave me the confidence to take a stab at the turbo 350. It was like twice the work as well? Had twice as many clutches and twice as many everything all through the same thing? And put together in a more difficult way? F Chevy...
 
George Jets said:
Yeah I always say it is the secondary effect to the original idea is where the "Gold" lies. Right now you are learning to weld while on a mission to get an upgraded rear end in your 75 Dart. That welding skill is the Gold you are uncovering right now.

Learning to weld and you can build all kinds of cool things in the future. Like building these Dune Buggy / Sand Rails. Welded these all together, bent the tubing with my home made dies mounted on my wood splitter for the hydraulics, and used a Degree Wheel to measure the angles of all the bends while bending them.

So yeah, all done in house, with tools I made myself. Welded the bending dies together with the Wire Feed too.

Many uses for that Welder . . .

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As much fun to make as they were to use . . .
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Whoa that looks fun! Looks like a professional build one ! You did a great job! Now just strap on a 318 to that sucker lol! Haha
 
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