Now the B.S. begins

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Maybe talking about burning it to the ground isn’t the smartest thing to do on the internet. Lol
I would never suggest anything that would get anybody hurt like burning something to the ground. Now setting it adrift on a raft in the middle of a big lake....wooof!!
 
I think you need to take a step back,calm down,regroup and you may look differently on this mather tommorow.
 
honestly I think you should just buy a local rust bucket and start working on it to get your mind off of this and start some new memories.
 
Step Daughter ! did I have a Step Daughter. Move on before it gets ugly. Please !
my anger and dwelling would have made do some ugly crap when I was younger.
now that I'm older I find it is best to let some things go, this is one of them.
 
First of all, the detective is not an estate lawyer or a person who can advise you on those matters. You need to contact an attorney and I guarantee this would be solved pretty lickity split. For a police officer to tell you those things makes me very suspicious of his motives.
 
The OP is not thinking clearly, we know he should contact an attorney, instead of seeking advise from a bunch of gearheads.
without funds it's hard for him to pursue this matter. it is best for him to move along.
P.S if the buyer of the car was a legit man, he would give the car back and pursue the matter himself.
again, the buyer is lucky it was not my car in my younger days. time to move on !
 
I had two cars in storage , a 1966 Hemi Satellite and a 1965 dodge Coronet 2dr. post , 383 , 4 speed . The storage manager said it was o.k. to pay him when I took them out . When I went there to take my cars out my cars were gone the building was gone and so was the owner . I found them both , the hemi was in a junk yard and the Coronet was in a used car lot . I called the Mass. State Police re. the Hemi . They suck ! I called the Taunton Mass. police re. the Coronet . They were worse as they were friends of the used car dealer . I had all the legal documentation but it meant nothing . I was told it was a civil matter and it could take years and $$$$ to resolve . Moral : never let something you cherish leave your sight , never . Family will screw you to the wall if $$$ are involved . It took me a while but I moved on . REVENGE is best served cold !
 
You let the car go when you relocated without it. If you don't have the finances to legally fight this with a good lawyer, let it go. You will never get that car back, but the bandaid will be pulled off quick.

Honestly if the dectective said you were legally 1/2 owner, and she sold the car for $6K, you are owed $3K at minimum. The detective does not run you. A good lawyer would get the cash back or charge her but chances are the car's gone regardless. So do what you will.
 
Well it looks like this was all caused by your wife forging your name. Well intended but not exactly legal.

Even if you get the car back you are possibly out storage fees and don’t have the money to get it out to you or even work on it to get it driving.

My advice. And You aren’t gonna like it.

Time to put the big boy pants on and forget about the stupid car and get on with your life.


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Which can be the hardest thing in the world to do.

Letting go of cherished possessions of the lost is like the final nail in letting go of the loved one.

It took me years to finally figuring this out. For some it takes longer. For others less time.

The truth is harsh. Our loved ones are beyond caring. Rather you believe in an after life or not it truly doesn't matter to them at all.

I agree. Time to let it go. Those memories associated with the car are just that: memories. Rather the car still exists or not, those memories will still be there.

The future can only be won by not living in the past. Is being consumed by this worth risking a future?

Sorry, Tom. Maybe not much help to you.

As for the situation: this is the important of a will and setting things in place *before* things like this happen.
 
If you can't afford a Lawyer atleast look for one who will hear your story for 10 minutes.... And then find 2 more just like that and see what the common denominator is. If they all come up with you are SOL, then let it go. If there is substance, then either you work part time at Wendy's and lawyer up or still let it go...

It's going to cost money so that's the first thing you need to figure out for yourself. This is why I ended up with my Dad's duster. It was his baby and he wanted to know where it was and still have some skin in the game. Man and their love for cars.... Gut wrenching for sure....

Good luck Op,
JW
 
My responses are in the quote.

Which can be the hardest thing in the world to do.

Letting go of cherished possessions of the lost is like the final nail in (letting go of the loved one).

Which, IMO, he needs to do badly. Wallowing in grief isn't healthy for anyone. A good, long grieving period is healthy. Continuing to manifest that grief in this thing (the car) and that (other things) just to keep grieving isn't healthy. Tom, you need to find something desperately to take your time up. Part time job, community service, a hobby that fits your budget.......SOMETHING.

It took me years to finally figuring this out. For some it takes longer. For others less time. I agree 100%. But it's been a long time now. Tom needs to let go......and if letting go of the car will help him let go.......then.........

....and Tom, that doesn't mean "forgetting" or "getting over" either. I don't care who you are, you never get over losing a loved one. I still find myself in a decent little cry every now and then over losing Mama in 1984 and Daddy in 1998. Yes, Mama in 1984. I'm still "not over" either. I never will be. You won't either, but you can let go of the hard grief now, it's ok. Your wife doesn't want you to live the rest of your life in emotional ruin. Neither do either of us. Certainly not over a car.



The truth is harsh. Our loved ones are beyond caring. Rather you believe in an after life or not it truly doesn't matter to them at all.

The truth is harsh...and I hope I am not too harsh with all I am saying. You may well be right about lost loved ones being "beyond" caring. We'll never know. One thing's for sure, it's not worth wallowing years in grief and sadness over.

I agree. Time to let it go. Those memories associated with the car are just that: memories. Rather the car still exists or not, those memories will still be there.

The future can only be won by not living in the past. Is being consumed by this worth risking a future?

Sorry, Tom. Maybe not much help to you.

I don't know, maybe. Tom, please take all of this as it is meant, with the love of Christ and good friends. We all love you here. No one is telling you what to do. We're simply on the outside looking in and the past several years have not been good for you. I think it's time you started looking up. You deserve that. It's time to be selfish for TOM. It's ok to do that.

As for the situation: this is the important of a will and setting things in place *before* things like this happen.
 
Which can be the hardest thing in the world to do.

Letting go of cherished possessions of the lost is like the final nail in letting go of the loved one.

It took me years to finally figuring this out. For some it takes longer. For others less time.

The truth is harsh. Our loved ones are beyond caring. Rather you believe in an after life or not it truly doesn't matter to them at all.

I agree. Time to let it go. Those memories associated with the car are just that: memories. Rather the car still exists or not, those memories will still be there.

The future can only be won by not living in the past. Is being consumed by this worth risking a future?

Sorry, Tom. Maybe not much help to you.

As for the situation: this is the important of a will and setting things in place *before* things like this happen.
I agree, It is very hard to let go of this car. But I may be forced to. I am going to try and contact legal aid in North Carolina on Monday and also call the NC DMV Fraud and Theft Division and ask for their advice. other than that I really do not know what to do.
 
It seems like I am being overlooked here. I am a victim of theft on 2 vehicles besides this Duster. And the person who is the "law enforcement officer" in this whole mess seems to not give a rats *** if I get any Justice on this. A crime was committed here no matter what.
 
I sure hope you're not part of the investigation, sometimes cops THINK they know something.
 
Didn't read all the responses but as has been said let it go. Look forward and don't dwell on the past. The car and wife memories will always be yours and cannot be taken away from you.

You're in California? When you have the funds there are and will be good deals to be had still out there. Doesnt matter if that is tomorrow or five years from now.
 
I sure hope you're not part of the investigation, sometimes cops THINK they know something.
Let them try to include me in their investigation. It will not go anywhere. I have been in California since Dec 2016 and the vehicles have been in North Carolina. I have a spotless background and there is nothing they can do to me.
 
It seems like I am being overlooked here. I am a victim of theft on 2 vehicles besides this Duster. And the person who is the "law enforcement officer" in this whole mess seems to not give a rats *** if I get any Justice on this. A crime was committed here no matter what.

No one is overlooking you, Tom. It's all about YOU, not the car, not the broken laws, but YOU. So, lets add this up. You are in California. The car is in North Carolina. You don't have two nickles to rub together. Every idea people bring up your response has been "I cannot afford........" Take a step back and look at the big picture. Even the cops don't seem to be on your side. It's gonna be a LONG row to hoe.
 
It seems like I am being overlooked here. I am a victim of theft on 2 vehicles besides this Duster. And the person who is the "law enforcement officer" in this whole mess seems to not give a rats *** if I get any Justice on this. A crime was committed here no matter what.

how are ya being overlooked???? people have thrown out numerous suggestions... and seriously we are only hearing your side of the story... i'm not saying you are making anything up but maybe there is more to the story then we are seeing..

like i stated before the entire thing was caused by your wife illegally titling the car in her name.. yes it was well intended but it was illegal how she went about it... then you pretty much abandoned the damn car because you couldn't afford to get it delivered to ya. then unfortunately she passed away without a will or instructions of what to do with the cars.. not sure what it is that you want to hear... from what you said earlier it sounds like at the most you were/are only 1/2 owner of the car. you left it so the stepdaughter right or wrong sold it.. and come on people buy cars every day with no title. who knows what the story was that the stepdaughter told the buyer.

ok there is sentimental value of the car. understood.... at the same time you don't have a pot to piss in. if you are awarded the car somehow what's gonna happen then? you said yourself you can't afford to have it shipped to you. you can't afford to work on it.. so what's the deal? what do you want to hear? you looking for a handout? someone to deliver it to ya for free because they feel sorry for your situation? tell us.

personally i think you need to stop stressing and forget about the car and seek professional help. grief counseling and maybe more.. the **** you are putting yourself through stressing yourself over this car isn't healthy and will take a toll on your health.... is it really worth al that? especially for a car you can't retrieve and or work on anyway? move on man.. hold on to your memories and forget about a pile of steel that even if awarded to ya you can't do anything with anyway....
 
The guy who holds the car currently is going to rail this deal with Storage fees..... I suspect that even if a judge saw your way in a decision the fees for storing the car will put it way over the top. If I personally spent the money on the car with a clear understanding that nothing prevented me from titling the car the price of the fees would topple the purchase price because I don't plan on being a victim of the deal....I am not even sure the OP could get half of the 6K the car was sold for honestly.

JW
 
I agree, It is very hard to let go of this car. But I may be forced to. I am going to try and contact legal aid in North Carolina on Monday and also call the NC DMV Fraud and Theft Division and ask for their advice. other than that I really do not know what to do.

And it comes back to your first sentence.

You may have to.

Yes, we know a crime has beem committed. In your shoes I'd want to get justice, too.

But, realistically, it's a crime you opened the door for ages ago, by not covering yourself in the first place.

You didn't know NC law enough to know in the event of the deceased that property becomes divided. (That alone sounds suspicious to me... A conservative state that doesn't transfer ownership to the spouse just doesn't sound right.)

There have been crimes against you committed from the start.

I get what situation you were in, but somewhere along the way, y'all lost your heads and didn't protect yourselves by putting a will in place. We're not talking about a few books or movies, we're talking about property that's transferable only by the state.

You didn't go to the DMV as you were able with your marriage license, the titles, and the death certificate to transfer everything into your name. If you were told right then and there that they become shared property then you could have worked to resolve the issue, right then and there.

The crime is mine for not reaching out and helping you as much as I could through this.

The recriminations of the past are part of learning for your future.

The fact is, I see this is you came apart. Completely and totally. And it reinforces my belief that men aren't "allowed" to grieve, so therefore many don't know "how." No wonder so many men turn to drugs and alcohol and cheap sex after the death of a loved one. I say this as a brother. I know. I've been there and got the t-shirt to prove it. And it's had long term psychological damage.

Some of us simply don't want to see you go further down that rabbit hole and sacrifice what you've gained.

Do what you see fit. Be prepared that it won't work in your favor as you're three thousand miles away, dealing with cops and lawyers in another state of which your step daughter is a citizen. And you're not.
 
People buy and sell cars everyday in Georgia with no title. It's perfectly legal. I caint remember....I think it;s older than like 85 or some crap and no title is required. Bill of sale only. Also in Georgia, if a car is ever registered without a title, you cannot ever get one for it again, no matter what. No big fancy lawyer, no snazzy internet title site, no nuthin. It's a bill of sale car the rest of its life.

I don't know the NC laws, but they may be about the same. If a title is not required on it, the law may see the guy in the clear, even though the stepdaughter basically sold the car illegally. It's just a bad deal all the way around.
 
nc laws are hardfast! new owner can get a tittle made if vin comes up clean!! if there was no will then spouse gets a kids equal share!!!! but the executor of the estate can get away with untold fortunes! seen it play out many times! if you push this hard enuff, the car will become a ward of the state and sold at auction and money split between kids and spouse equally!! if the car was put back in the estate then youd halfta buy daughters half from her!!! if the new owner can prove he has put moneys into the car he is entitled to restitution! really ant a way for it to work out and you come away happy! if daughter can prove you abandoned the car, you ant gotta chance, and if it gose to court thats the path her lawyer will seek....dWB
 
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