Ddaddy
Just doing what I do
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I hope you saw my first photo and not the one below the shingle. LOL Thanks It's a fun house.
Neighbour did something similar,textured. Very nice stuff.
This stuff doesn't have aggregate like most metal look alikes. I asked the contractors what happens when the aggregate wears off. "you spray on some adhesive and dust on some aggregate". Not covered under warranty either.
Makes sense.
Supply and command...
You mean the table that was folding in on itself?
I hope you follow up on the options we talked about.
You're comparing hay to apple trees.
I'm telling you need to talk to a crew that knows the material and isn't afraid of it. Then you won't have to buy any new material, just the labor and the repairs. It still won't be cheap, but its very unusual for roof that still has that much unbroken shingles to be cheaper to replace. With slate the rule of thumb is somewhere around 30% damaged. Terra cotta is a little different but that gives you a general idea of what someone in the field would be using as the typical tipping point.
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I'm telling you need to talk to a crew that knows the material and isn't afraid of it. Then you won't have to buy any new material, just the labor and the repairs. It still won't be cheap, but its very unusual for roof that still has that much unbroken shingles to be cheaper to replace. With slate the rule of thumb is somewhere around 30% damaged. Terra cotta is a little different but that gives you a general idea of what someone in the field would be using as the typical tipping point.[/QUOTE]
Menards had a metal with attached aggregate product that looked like tile. They quit carrying it and the local contractor quit installing it. From what I understand, too many issues. We have a few choices, the product I posted above, rebuild the roof with new clay tile like it is now, or a standard architectural shingle. (which I don't consider an option) There was a gal a few blocks away that had her clay tile redone last summer. A crew from Chicago did it, did a very nice job, and I haven't talked to her as how much. I would easily estimate $100,00+ and her house is similar to ours in size and shape. No one around here will touch clay tile.
I'm telling you need to talk to a crew that knows the material and isn't afraid of it. Then you won't have to buy any new material, just the labor and the repairs. It still won't be cheap, but its very unusual for roof that still has that much unbroken shingles to be cheaper to replace. With slate the rule of thumb is somewhere around 30% damaged. Terra cotta is a little different but that gives you a general idea of what someone in the field would be using as the typical tipping point.[/QUOTE]
Menards had a metal with attached aggregate product that looked like tile. They quit carrying it and the local contractor quit installing it. From what I understand, too many issues. We have a few choices, the product I posted above, rebuild the roof with new clay tile like it is now, or a standard architectural shingle. (which I don't consider an option) There was a gal a few blocks away that had her clay tile redone last summer. A crew from Chicago did it, did a very nice job, and I haven't talked to her as how much. I would easily estimate $100,00+ and her house is similar to ours in size and shape. No one around here will touch clay tile.
Menards had a metal with attached aggregate product that looked like tile. They quit carrying it and the local contractor quit installing it. From what I understand, too many issues. We have a few choices, the product I posted above, rebuild the roof with new clay tile like it is now, or a standard architectural shingle. (which I don't consider an option) There was a gal a few blocks away that had her clay tile redone last summer. A crew from Chicago did it, did a very nice job, and I haven't talked to her as how much. I would easily estimate $100,00+ and her house is similar to ours in size and shape. No one around here will touch clay tile.[/QUOTE]
That's the problem with these new materials. Let someone else be the gini pig. Maybe if we were talking three tab or roll I could undertand someone deciding its worth a gamble.
Start with Jenkins and Ludowici for leads. Jenkins may be the better one but try both.
If that doesn't pan out, let me know.
This is one of those classic situations we come across all too often in the field --- owners told their roof can't be fixed and needs all new tile or slate. As far as you can tell the tile is undamaged. So there's no real reason not to reuse it. At minimum you should get paid for it if they take it. Anyone who can't remove them without breakage them should be shown the door.
dukeboy440
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It is a beautiful place Mike!
zkx14
Duster De-ruster
Is that a roof top deck in between the 2 low peaks?
That's the problem with these new materials. Let someone else be the gini pig. Maybe if we were talking three tab or roll I could undertand someone deciding its worth a gamble.
Start with Jenkins and Ludowici for leads. Jenkins may be the better one but try both.
If that doesn't pan out, let me know.
This is one of those classic situations we come across all too often in the field --- owners told their roof can't be fixed and needs all new tile or slate. As far as you can tell the tile is undamaged. So there's no real reason not to reuse it. At minimum you should get paid for it if they take it. Anyone who can't remove them without breakage them should be shown the door.[/QUOTE]
I will contact the manufacturer of our tile and see what they recommend. Damn, it would be tough to do business with a company from another state. The guy today that ran the drone lives 3 or 4 blocks away. (if you know what i mean) I have already contacted local contractors about the roof and I don't even get a call back. Not interested. I have talked to 3 masons about getting the chimney flashed and tuckpointed and everybody bails out because of the clay tile. Our house was on the market for a couple years and the roof was a turn off. It scared people away. Someday within the next 15 years we will probably sell the house. (I will be 80 then) I don't want to put a ton of money in the roof and still have a house that everyone is afraid to buy. A new type roof (15 years old) with a lifetime transferable warranty is a lot easier to sell than a 120 year old roof that has been rebuilt with no warranty and everybody refuses to work on. That's my way of thinking.
Ddaddy
Just doing what I do
Sounds like you may be talking yourself into standard dimensional asphalt shingles with a 30 year guarantee. Less cost, no turn off to new buyers and still have plenty of life left in it for the new owners.
Not here it has not over 3 dollars a gallon....
Give it a shot Mike. In any of these cases you're getting referals. Jenkins has played a fairly big role in traditional roofing education/training. While they might be interested themselves (coming Wester PA IIRC), I suspect they will give you referals to someone closer to your location.
Yes a flat roof with a membrane type roof. I walk on it to do repairs and hang up Christmas decorations. Oh, I decorate for Halloween as well. It's a great place for batsand my sound system with a sound activated strobe light. LOL
Don't get me started on flat roofs - all it takes is a pin hole....
Or around here sometimes its a bullet hole.
Nope, It will look like the original roof or it won't go on. My wife and I both agree. Like our old cars, I won't put a LS in my car but I would use a 318 MAgnum.
Ddaddy
Just doing what I do
I understand...but it’s also the difference between looking at it as an owner vs. looking at it as a seller.
For me it's all about repairing it with new materials so the next person isn't scared to buy it but still have the original character of the original look. Enlarge and sharpen this photo up if you could Dave? That would be cool. I can send them to you too.
Think of it this way Dave, a new roof would suit me fine regardless of it's construction but in 15 or so years, the right roof will help sell the house, add value, and sell in a reasonable time.
Ddaddy
Just doing what I do
Best if you email it to me in the highest resolution you have. I can work on it from there.
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