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ScampMike said:
damn - I get it it with the Duster sharktooth grills - but wow, I am surprised the GTS is commanding so much - it doesn't really seem to be in great shape
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The grill is trash. It's the nose cone that has the value...
 
GeorgeH said:
just kidding @MOPARMITCH
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I'l toss whatever she wants me to.:thumbsup:
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dukeboy_318 said:
nope. Order of Operations my friend.

in the forumula with paraphases, you eliminate those first.

so 6/2(2+1)= x?

6/2(3)=x?

then you work multiplication to eliminate the paraphases

6/6=

Then you divide

6/6=1

Phone is wrong
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This one has been beat to death.
I'm sticking with 9
brackets first
then both M and D, LEFT TO RIGHT
That said, the presentation is the problem. Not the answer.
So, do I mean the answer is not the problem or the presentation is not the answer?
 
Well last coat is on should be dry when I get back then I can put this thing together, seems like a 2mm tip is the answer to spraying that stuff.
 
zkx14 said:
This one has been beat to death.
I'm sticking with 9
brackets first
then both M and D, LEFT TO RIGHT
That said, the presentation is the problem. Not the answer.
So, do I mean the answer is not the problem or the presentation is not the answer?
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It's the method your using.

you're using the flawed PEMDAS method.

PEMDAS in that order......

Paraphases
Exponents
Multiplication and Division(left to right)
Addition and Subtraction(left to right)

The Order of Operations: More Examples


see example 2.....

The PEMDAS system has been mis-taught in some schools for a couple decades now. Even math teachers will argue of order of operations because the centuries long held, scientific method, which is what I described, involves eliminating the paraphrases first, which is what is used in the sciences. Reason being is 2(2+1) stays 2(3) until you do so. 2(3) is equal to 2x3. This is the same as if you were solving for x, and 2x, where the number in front is multiplying what is in the phases. The scientific method states that you solve inside the Paraphases, then any Paraphases Exponents and then any Multiplication/Division of the Paraphases then moving on to Multiplication, Division,Addition,Subtraction. Which is why "Scientific" calculators will give you a different answer than a Algebraic/Graphing calculator.

So the problem is that there's two sides arguing over the "correct" order of operation, thus the teaching of two different methods.
 
dukeboy_318 said:
It's the method your using.

you're using the flawed PEMDAS method.

PEMDAS in that order......

Paraphases
Exponents
Multiplication and Division(left to right)
Addition and Subtraction(left to right)

The Order of Operations: More Examples


see example 2.....

The PEMDAS system has been mis-taught in some schools for a couple decades now. Even math teachers will argue of order of operations because the centuries long held, scientific method, which is what I described, involves eliminating the paraphrases first, which is what is used in the sciences. Reason being is 2(2+1) stays 2(3) until you do so. 2(3) is equal to 2x3. This is the same as if you were solving for x, and 2x, where the number in front is multiplying what is in the phases. The scientific method states that you solve inside the Paraphases, then any Paraphases Exponents and then any Multiplication/Division of the Paraphases then moving on to Multiplication, Division,Addition,Subtraction. Which is why "Scientific" calculators will give you a different answer than a Algebraic/Graphing calculator.

So the problem is that there's two sides arguing over the "correct" order of operation, thus the teaching of two different methods.
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Bottom line is the guys that do this **** all day long can't agree. It depends what the real world problem is that they are trying to represent mathematically.
And that's all I have to say about that
 
zkx14 said:
Bottom line is the guys that do this **** all day long can't agree. It depends what the real world problem is that they are trying to represent mathematically.
And that's all I have to say about that
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Exactly.
 
dukeboy_318 said:
not cut and pasted..... :icon_fU: Working with engineers, you would not believe the number of times this argument comes up
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In real life it would be a meaningless formula. No one in there right mind would write it down looking for an outcome. IMO.
 
dukeboy_318 said:
It's the method your using.

you're using the flawed PEMDAS method.

PEMDAS in that order......

Paraphases
Exponents
Multiplication and Division(left to right)
Addition and Subtraction(left to right)

The Order of Operations: More Examples


see example 2.....

The PEMDAS system has been mis-taught in some schools for a couple decades now. Even math teachers will argue of order of operations because the centuries long held, scientific method, which is what I described, involves eliminating the paraphrases first, which is what is used in the sciences. Reason being is 2(2+1) stays 2(3) until you do so. 2(3) is equal to 2x3. This is the same as if you were solving for x, and 2x, where the number in front is multiplying what is in the phases. The scientific method states that you solve inside the Paraphases, then any Paraphases Exponents and then any Multiplication/Division of the Paraphases then moving on to Multiplication, Division,Addition,Subtraction. Which is why "Scientific" calculators will give you a different answer than a Algebraic/Graphing calculator.

So the problem is that there's two sides arguing over the "correct" order of operation, thus the teaching of two different methods.
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There is no argumentation. The answer is 1. And yes, I'm an engineer.
 
ScampMike said:
NICE!! I see smoke!
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Yup. Overheated. Trying to keep the revs up to try and break n the cam a little better. Kids were complaining on the noise. No exhaust and the thing is right under the living room.

I think a fan shroud might be called for ...
 
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