Stop in for a cup of coffee

[Tooljunkie]

Got quote back from chrysler,
Everything obsolete but the cotter pin...
Ram isnt going anywhere soon...
Only thing keeping the wheel on was the caliper.

 

[Ben Drinkin]

Try another way.
Take your finger and put it on the alternator output stud.
Assume the engine is running and the voltage at the stud is 14.2 Volts.
Use your finger to trace the path electricity will flow to get to get to the main junction.
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Does it make sense now?

Great explanation..

now, can you tell me about the rabbit?

 

[Princess Valiant]

Had a guy stop by, I don't know him but he saw me outside and he stopped to talk about the fury.

when you hear a guy talking about a 440 HEMI and one his uncle used to have and you are like:

 

[Tooljunkie]

Feels good to know you are smarter than that guy,huh?

 

[Princess Valiant]

Feels good to know you are smarter than that guy,huh?

I am not saying I am smarter, I just call mega BS on what he was saying.

There is no 440 Hemi and who knows what his uncle had because the description was sketchy at best and that is a half hour I will never get back

 

[dukeboy440]

I am not saying I am smarter, I just call mega BS on what he was saying.

There is no 440 Hemi and who knows what his uncle had because the description was sketchy at best and that is a half hour I will never get back

Actually.... there is. Well kind of. A company named Stage V made a custom set of aftermarket heads with a special kit and some machining that would turn a 440 block into a hemi headed 440. They ran about 5-6 grand for the adds, more for the kit and I've only seen a few in the wild.

But I highly doubt his uncle had one

 

[MomsDuster]

It’s Alive!

 

[Ben Drinkin]

It’s Alive!

cool! She sounds angry! maybe cuz you kept her locked away so long!

 

[dukeboy440]

It’s Alive!

Nice

 

[MomsDuster]

cool! She sounds angry! maybe cuz you kept her locked away so long!

That could very well be!

 

[Mattax]

So where I'm now confused is as to how that is better than the bypass? If there's no resistance at the ammeter, then where would the increased load come from?

Break this up for me.
So where I'm now confused is as to how that is better than the bypass?
If your question is what I think it is, do the same excercise with your finger for MAD's figure B.
Start at the alternator and follow path the current must flow to get to the main junction (the welded splice).
How many connections are there along that route?
Is the route longer or shorter?
Are the wires larger or smaller than original?

If there's no resistance at the ammeter, then where would the increased load come from?
What ammeter?
When did your finger cross over the ammeter?

 

[Mattax]

Great explanation..

now, can you tell me about the rabbit?

You want me to pull one out of my hat?
OK.

 

[dukeboy440]

Break this up for me.
So where I'm now confused is as to how that is better than the bypass?
If your question is what I think it is, do the same excercise with your finger for MAD's figure B.
Start at the alternator and follow path the current must flow to get to the main junction (the welded splice).
How many connections are there along that route?
Is the route longer or shorter?
Are the wires larger or smaller than original?

If there's no resistance at the ammeter, then where would the increased load come from?
What ammeter?
When did your finger cross over the ammeter?

Break this up for me.
So where I'm now confused is as to how that is better than the bypass?
If your question is what I think it is, do the same excercise with your finger for MAD's figure B.
Start at the alternator and follow path the current must flow to get to the main junction (the welded splice).
How many connections are there along that route?
Is the route longer or shorter?
Are the wires larger or smaller than original?

If there's no resistance at the ammeter, then where would the increased load come from?
What ammeter?
When did your finger cross over the ammeter?

isnt the gauge the ammeter?

And yeah the wires are appear longer and more splices but how does that increase the load? More current in them because of the added length and splices?

 

[Ddaddy]

The longer the wire, the greater the resistance. The smaller the wire, the greater resistance.

When a wire gets longer, it needs to be a larger diameter to have the same resistance as the shorter one.

Splices (connections) add to the resistance. Fewer means less resistance.

Also, the diagram Matt showed demonstrated that the power from the alternator didn’t have to go across the ampmeter to power the system...only to recharge the battery.

 

[Tooljunkie]

It’s Alive!

Nice! I prefer to hear em run in person. Wish i was there to see it running. Looks great!

 

[Ddaddy]

Think of it like flowing water through a hose. A big hose delivers more water at a given pressure than a small one does. The longer the hose, the greater the pressure drop. It’s still water at the other end, but less volume. Think of volts as the water and amps as volume.

 

[dukeboy440]

The longer the wire, the greater the resistance. The smaller the wire, the greater resistance.

When a wire gets longer, it needs to be a larger diameter to have the same resistance as the shorter one.

Splices (connections) add to the resistance. Fewer means less restistance.

Also, the diagram matt showed demonstrated that the power from the alternator didn’t have to go across the ampmeter to power the system...only to recharge the battery.

I see

 

[dukeboy440]

Think of it like flowing water through a hose. A big hose delivers more water at a given pressure than a small one does. The longer the hose, the greater the pressure drop. It’s still water at the other end, but less volume. Think of volts as the water and amps as volume.

Makes sense. Especially makes since now what the electrical engineer I had come out to quote installing electric to my 10 acres was talking about. Voltage drop

 

[Princess Valiant]

Actually.... there is. Well kind of. A company named Stage V made a custom set of aftermarket heads with a special kit and some machining that would turn a 440 block into a hemi headed 440. They ran about 5-6 grand for the adds, more for the kit and I've only seen a few in the wild.

But I highly doubt his uncle had one

Did that exist back in the late 70s and early 80s ??

 

[Mattax]

And yeah the wires are appear longer and more splices but how does that increase the load? More current in them because of the added length and splices?

Dave pretty much covered it.
Lets be sure you got it.
Go back to my mark up of MAD's diagram 'B'.
Trace your finger over the purple arrows from the alternator to the main junction.
How many connections?
Did the wire size drop from 12 gage or 10 gage to a smaller wires along the way?

isnt the gauge the ammeter?

Again. How did your finger cross the ammeter while following the wire from the alternator to the main splice?
Lets do one scenario at a time.

 

[Ben Drinkin]

Whelp, the woman who lives in my housewent crazy. I built he a small deck off the front porch to cover a spot where nothing would grow.. Decking boards run at 4 different angles. Well she decided the concrete porch should 'match' the wood decking. I came home to this concrete porch...

 

[dukeboy440]

Dave pretty much covered it.
Lets be sure you got it.
Go back to my mark up of MAD's diagram 'B'.
Trace your finger over the purple arrows from the alternator to the main junction.
How many connections?
Did the wire size drop from 12 gage or 10 gage to a smaller wires along the way?


Again. How did your finger cross the ammeter while following the wire from the alternator to the main splice?
Lets do one scenario at a time.

7.

Dropped to 14 &16

Not sure what the red wire is doing

No sign of ammeter hooked in to the mad B?

 

[Mattax]

Makes sense. Especially makes since now what the electrical engineer I had come out to quote installing electric to my 10 acres was talking about. Voltage drop

You can take this anology a little further. The battery could be thought of like a water tank on roof or small tower and the alternator like a well pump.
If the water tank has a valve at the bottom, it can supply a lot of water - but the pressure is limited and will go down as the tank empties.
The pump can supply most needs at higher pressure. It also has enough pressure to refill the tank. But once the tank is full, no more water flows into it.

 

[Mattax]

Whelp, the woman who lives in my housewent crazy. I built he a small deck off the front porch to cover a spot where nothing would grow.. Decking boards run at 4 different angles. Well she decided the concrete porch should 'match' the wood decking. I came home to this concrete porch...
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That's nuts. I woodn't have done that.

 

[zkx14]

Whelp, the woman who lives in my housewent crazy. I built he a small deck off the front porch to cover a spot where nothing would grow.. Decking boards run at 4 different angles. Well she decided the concrete porch should 'match' the wood decking. I came home to this concrete porch...
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you have a nice small deck