the great mask debate

do you wear a mask when you go out?

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Cuda416 said:
Good thing i don't give a rip what you think about me. Not infected, but I will be. Of that there is no doubt. We all will.
Cloth masks actually do YOU, the WEARER harm. Again, ask a medical pro. Doctors don't wear the same mask all day, every day like most mask zombies. I'm not anti-mask. I'm anti-force. You want to wear one, knock yourself out.
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Ok cloth masks are not as good as surgical or N95. But after reading your articles, cloth masks are still better than nothing.

I guess I don't get you, why not choose to err on the side of caution? Your motive seems political or egoistical.
 
chryslerfat said:
I have to disagree with that. I had to go out and went down the freeway I94 into Detroit and met up with only 2 cars for the 30 mile trip on the round trip.
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Yup, I remember in the spring when most people were told to stay home, I was deemed an essential worker, so I have yet to miss a day of work, (other than the one that I stayed home following a root canal last week), when it was almost like a ghost town. Very little traffic was on the road, hell that was great for me. Got to work in half the time, and not nearly as many idiots on the road during my work hours. Now, it's just like nothing changed.
 
Mike69cuda said:
If you are not showing any symptoms, then you are probably not contagious.
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No. That is wrong. You can be asymptomatic. That means yoy show no symotoms but have the virus and are spreading it. My friend at work is quarentined for that exact reason. He has 0 symotoms but, tested positive. He was exposed by coworkers who tested positive and have symotoms.
 
RammerJammer75 said:
One point on the "flatten the curve" thing: as somebody who studied Math for 4 years, that made me concerned. When you flatten a curve, you extend the the range of said curve, and if you have one that peaks very quickly, the range is shortened. Just my observations.
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Yeah, the whole thing started as flatten the curve. Then when that worked , it was switched to save every life even if you were 100 years old and had a do not resuscitate. Nobody dies of old age. I don't have problem w masks but shutting down business and ruin lives is criminal. Governors and mayors should be held accountable.
 
DodgeLad said:
Ok cloth masks are not as good as surgical or N95. But after reading your articles, cloth masks are still better than nothing.

I guess I don't get you, why not choose to err on the side of caution? Your motive seems political or egoistical.
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So do you also not touch POS screens at stores? Do you not touch Grocery carts? Do you social distance? And do you also not interact with anyone in the throws of working such as a UPS driver? Door knobs, that another....

No you have decided the Mask will give you an edge. I am happy for you. Not all of us are buying into it. But that paragraph above I probably practice more than most that think a Mask is the fix.

At the end of the day, you have a plan. We all have a plan. It's that simple. But there are other parts of this virus that certain people will never understand.... So be safe and live you life your way. Just don't infringe on mine... And don't expect someone who doesn't roll your way to agree with you....

Political- you betcha. Been a component all along. How much I don't know and don't care personally. That's out of my control.

JW
 
moparker said:
No. That is wrong. You can be asymptomatic. That means yoy show no symotoms but have the virus and are spreading it. My friend at work is quarentined for that exact reason. He has 0 symotoms but, tested positive. He was exposed by coworkers who tested positive and have symotoms.
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Mhh I've been hearing this, but I'm not sure if I believe it

Never before have I heard of asymptomatic spreaders

It used to be, if you were asymptomatic you also were NOT contagious

I just can't help wonder if this actually changed, or if it just fit the narrative
 
Its been that way from the start. Thats why the doctors and scientists want people to wear masks. Thats how this virus works. Nothin new about that. Thats why this virus is so out of control.
 
diymirage said:
Mhh I've been hearing this, but I'm not sure if I believe it

Never before have I heard of asymptomatic spreaders

It used to be, if you were asymptomatic you also were NOT contagious

I just can't help wonder if this actually changed, or if it just fit the narrative
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I think people are confused about the term asymptomatic and thinking the asym folks are just carriers... 80% of asyms will develop full on C19 according to a bunch of studies. The other 20% have systems that can fight off C19. This corrolates to estimates of people with memory T cells who have been exposed and never have symptoms. I'm not going to play the link game. I suggest people find this stuff and examine it themselves.
 
moparker said:
Its been that way from the start. Thats why the doctors and scientists want people to wear masks. Thats how this virus works. Nothin new about that. Thats why this virus is so out of control.
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Not ALL doctors and not ALL scientists....
 
DodgeLad said:
Ok cloth masks are not as good as surgical or N95. But after reading your articles, cloth masks are still better than nothing.

I guess I don't get you, why not choose to err on the side of caution? Your motive seems political or egoistical.
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I err on the side of caution all the time. I carry... doesn't mean I'm going to force everyone to.... smdh.. If you don't understand that, we're never going to find any middle ground. You isolate patients, not the other way around. Doctors don't send cancer patients home and tell the neighborhood lock it down.
 
moparker said:
PM

Just covid. Much worse than the flu and spreads easier.
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Depends on who gets it. I know people who got it and it was nothing to them. Everyone is different. Those with compromised immune systems are at greatest risk, as with the flu.
 
92b said:
It says cloth mask are not as effective as medical mask.
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if you read further, I believe both of those also site personal risks based on the mask itself that as nothing to do with C19,that may have been another link tho. Something for you to research.
 
diymirage said:
i find it interesting to see how they managed to promote masks as something you do "for the greater good"

i have found that most of the general population doesnt seem to mind me not wearing mine, but i think on 4 or 5 different occasions people have confronted me in a less then kind manner, and only half of them resorted to threating me/us with physical violence (i did not bother asking them how they intended to do that while also social distancing)
one of those people was escorted out of the establishment by the proprietor

on the other hand, i have also had strangers engage me in small talk when i was not wearing a mask and they were




as for the argument that physicians wear them, it always reminds me of this clip

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if you remember at the end of that episode the guy died because of the junior mint...
 
moparker said:
Ok. Im done.
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All I'm doing is clarifying. You don't get to claim ALL of nothing, since you don't actually know, anymore than you actually know,or not, if the masks help you, or harm me. I've said repeatedly, I'm NOT anti mask, I AM anti FORCE.

be well, really. You do what you think is right, and I'll do what I think is right.
 
I don't say anything to people because I'm not the police and I'm not trying to change how people think... But trust me I don't think well of them...
And the whole doctor thing or surgeon thing is extremely relevant in this case...
I mean who's going to tell their open heart surgeon but that mask doesn't do anything??..
This whole idea that our state has been mandated to wear masks yet the infections are increasing is just a sign of how many people are not following the social distancing guidelines...
The president called this the invisible enemy... Correct?... Does anybody remember early 1940s history? When as Americans we all band together to help fight the enemy? We ration the meat we recycle just about everything that we could and made every effort to band together with a common goal of beating the enemy...??..
As we all that have common sense know that this is not any kind of cure but for goodness sakes all that's being asked to do is wear a mask.. to support the cause of defeating the hidden enemy...
To me not wearing a mask in public places is a slap in the face to your fellow man... I don't wear one at home and I don't wear one when I'm outside.. I tried to stay 6 ft away from my neighbors... I do wear a mask when I walk the dog at the dog park but only pull it up when I'm coming close or passing people...
 
One of the companies that I pick up from periodically went full on, at the start of this. Masks for every employee, all day, hand sanitizer, etc. And every person who enters has to fill in a questionnaire every time they enter the building.
They still had at least one outbreak in the company, as has a few other large employers in town.
The company I work for has currently 10 staff in our building. We are regularly in close proximity with each other, our office is small, none of us wear a mask in the office or the warehouse. So far, one driver has been tested, because he called in sick one day, but he says he feels fine now. He can't return to work until he gets a negative result or self quarantines for 14 days.
 
j par said:
And the whole doctor thing or surgeon thing is extremely relevant in this case...
I mean who's going to tell their open heart surgeon but that mask doesn't do anything??..
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Already been covered. Surgeons wear masks because of HUGE GAPING WOUNDS in front of their faces..... and the possibility that the fluids from the patient might also get to them as well. It's a completely different scenario. Masks do very little if anything in almost all cases. if they did, what difference does it make how close or far I am from you? If we're back to back, 3 inches apart, what then?
 
diymirage said:
Mhh I've been hearing this, but I'm not sure if I believe it

Never before have I heard of asymptomatic spreaders

It used to be, if you were asymptomatic you also were NOT contagious

I just can't help wonder if this actually changed, or if it just fit the narrative
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Asymtomatic carriers of hepatitis have been around for a long time. No symptoms but spreaders.
 
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