Timing sprocket gear loose against cam key.

[Bronze Barracuda]

So I'm installing my new timing chain and gears and the cam sprocket is loose and has play against the cam key so I thought maybe the key was too small I took off my old timing chain gear and it fits snug on the cam and key well as a tiny tiny bit of play but nothing like the new one?
Should I just use the old cam gear with the new timing chain and crank sprocket?

 

[Newbomb Turk]

I’m not a very smart guy but if the new gear is ******* junk, take it back and buy something better.

Why would you run an old gear on a new chain??

Most of these chains and gears are garbage anyway but running a used gear is like making yourself a **** sandwich so you don’t go hungry.

Get a different timing set.

 

[Bronze Barracuda]

I’m not a very smart guy but if the new gear is ******* junk, take it back and buy something better.

Why would you run an old gear on a new chain??

Most of these chains and gears are garbage anyway but running a used gear is like making yourself a **** sandwich so you don’t go hungry.

Get a different timing set.

Yeah I 100% agree with you unfortunately this timing chain set came with an engine rebuild kit off of eBay the Pistons and bearings and everything already installed so I'm not going to take all that apart to send everything back so I'm kind of screwed that way.

 

[barracudadave67]

Check Mancini Racing. You should be able to get some new cam gear keys from them. I know Mopar use to have sets of them.

Dave

 

[junkyardhero]

is it sloppy on the shaft or just the key? you could try another key.

if it's all bobo then just suck it up and order a decent timing kit from summit and call it done.

you might be able to make your case with the supplier and see if they're credit you some dough on the back end. if not, let the air out of their tires and firebomb the place of business. it's the sensible thing to do.

 

[Bronze Barracuda]

is it sloppy on the shaft or just the key? you could try another key.

if it's all bobo then just suck it up and order a decent timing kit from summit and call it done.

you might be able to make your case with the supplier and see if they're credit you some dough on the back end. if not, let the air out of their tires and firebomb the place of business. it's the sensible thing to do.

It's sloppy on the key only. I've got it installed, for the time being. Strangely after tightening the cam eccentric and cam bolt the play is gone. But regardless I'm going to order a new timing chain and gear set. I'm just going to use the current setup to get the Pistons and rods assembled and then replace the timing set when the new set get here.

 

[junkyardhero]

It's sloppy on the key only. I've got it installed, for the time being. Strangely after tightening the cam eccentric and cam bolt the play is gone. But regardless I'm going to order a new timing chain and gear set. I'm just going to use the current setup to get the Pistons and rods assembled and then replace the timing set when the new set get here.

smart play. hope the rest of the assembly goes swimmingly!

 

[RustyRatRod]

Yeah I 100% agree with you unfortunately this timing chain set came with an engine rebuild kit off of eBay the Pistons and bearings and everything already installed so I'm not going to take all that apart to send everything back so I'm kind of screwed that way.

Exactly why I always advise against getting an engine kit. You're subject to someone else's decision of what goes in it. That's about the crappiest timing set money can buy. I've said it time and again. If you don't pay around or over 100 bucks for a timing set, you're gettin a crappy one.

 

[RustyRatRod]

It's sloppy on the key only. I've got it installed, for the time being. Strangely after tightening the cam eccentric and cam bolt the play is gone. But regardless I'm going to order a new timing chain and gear set. I'm just going to use the current setup to get the Pistons and rods assembled and then replace the timing set when the new set get here.

Well of course it's gone. You tightened the bolt down. You better believe it though when it's running, that cam sprocket will probably rock back and forth. That crap wouldn't be in any engine I built. Rock on, brother!

 

[Bronze Barracuda]

Exactly why I always advise against getting an engine kit. You're subject to someone else's decision of what goes in it. That's about the crappiest timing set money can buy. I've said it time and again. If you don't pay around or over 100 bucks for a timing set, you're gettin a crappy one.

It's an Enginetech, with a Cloyes part number. Crazy thing with almost everything coming out of China, how can we know if the parts come out of the same bin and just get thrown into whichever box that some company pays them to toss it into, Cloyes, Enginetech, Melling etc.

 

[TrailBeast]

It's an Enginetech, with a Cloyes part number. Crazy thing with almost everything coming out of China, how can we know if the parts come out of the same bin and just get thrown into whichever box that some company pays them to toss it into, Cloyes, Enginetech, Melling etc.

I sometimes make a comparison like this.
The parts that come out of China are about the same as when they use english in the directions.
Close, but not quite right.

 

[Bronze Barracuda]

I sometimes make a comparison like this.
The parts that come out of China are about the same as when they use english in the directions.
Close, but not quite right.

Good lord tell me about it. A friend of mine bought a radio for his truck off of Amazon some brand I've never heard of obviously from China and the instructions in English are absolutely non-comprehensible it's beyond ridiculous.

 

[RustyRatRod]

It's an Enginetech, with a Cloyes part number. Crazy thing with almost everything coming out of China, how can we know if the parts come out of the same bin and just get thrown into whichever box that some company pays them to toss it into, Cloyes, Enginetech, Melling etc.

JP/Rollmaster. Search it on this site. No tellin how many hits you'll get. Proudly made in Australia and very high quality. It'a all I will use now. Melling is made right here in USA. Cloyes sucks and always has.

 

[Newbomb Turk]

I sometimes make a comparison like this.
The parts that come out of China are about the same as when they use english in the directions.
Close, but not quite right.

lol. Post of the month.