Trick Flow small block heads

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yellow rose said:
Got ham...those are nice rockers. What is the offset? Can you mill the stands and use them on other than Victor heads???
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So far this is the only ones that this can be done too for LA heads. This is because it has alot of material over the ports for a stand to be drilled. but the magnum heads I am working on them now. Not sure when they will be done because its a pet project for me at this time. The magnum heads are stud style rockers so makes it easy to do.
 
Is ain't proper punctuation ? Some race some type Eddy heads were lightly cleaned up same Harland sharp 1.5 rockers and valve springs were put on the trick flows I did go to a bigs 950 carb built to fit my combo ran a 850 quickfuel carb out of the box prior. New comp cam .649 .651 which is barely bigger than before no other changes. Molnar crank 4.125 stroke race tech Pistons 4.080 bore total seal rings solid roller cam Tti 1 7/8 headers 904 trans Dana 60 456 gear also auromotive vac pump and fuel systym super victor manifold . Every thing gets along never dynoed it don't care more into time slips and a well built chassis then a keyboard
 
I think that having the Trick flow heads for small block, that are a nicely made and engineered properly from what I see, so far from pictures off the net. Is the best news for us mopar guys. These heads should be head of choice if any one is building a small block. As I have indy heads Which I paid to much. For something had to fix before I put motor together. Indy has the worst customer service that I have ever seen hope they go broke. I will never buy from Indy again. My buddy has a set of Trick flow big block heads they work very well. I can't wait to see a set of the small block heads up close. Cheers to the guys that made the new trick flows.
 
I haven't run them but I got to look at a pair of these TF heads at Mopars in the Park. The castings looked great as did the machine work.
 
khuebner250 said:
I Dyno'd mine today! Spent yesterday getting it on the dyno stand and broken in. Made a couple 4k pulls today checking vitals, then changed the oil. This afternoon we made some 6K pulls.
I should preface this with... My main objective was break in a solid flat tappet and not max power. I'm going to be running a Holley Stealth Terminator EFI and I'm frankensteining the sniper ignition to work with the Terminator. Therefore, I didn't want to have ignition issues on first startup for fear of flattening the cam. So I wasn't tuning for perfect fuel ratio, timing curve or whatever. It's all changing anyway. We set timing at 36* and afr was 11.9-12.2 for the pulls. Also I know there is more on the table but I wasn't concerned with it, honestly. It was nerve wracking enough! Holy crap is it nerve wracking!

Also, my Dyno operator told me not to get too caught up in numbers or expectations. And that they call his Dyno "the humbler". So, some specs.

Short block:
360 based 414
4.06 bore
4.0 Molner forged crank
6.123 Molner rods
Mahle inverted dome pistons 16cc's
.276 top ring down
~ -.002-004 in the hole
10.87-10.89 compression
.040 custom Cometics
Quench .043 not sure on an inverted dome?
1,1,2mm ring pack .016 top .020 2nd gap
King bearings throughout
.002 main clearance
.0028 rod clearance
1784 bobweight
Arp main, rod and head studs
Milodon road race pan and pick up
Modded windage tray(due to stud clearance)
IJ crank scraper
Melling 72HV(used lol)
Mopar magnum one piece oil pan gasket
MP .557 cam 4* advanced at 106*
Rollmaster billet chain
MP chain tensioner
Flowkooler water pump
Side entrance rear freeze plug cooling
Trick flow balancer internal

Top end:
Howard's EDM solid lifters
Milodon valley tray
Smith Bros custom 5/16 ball/cup pushrods
Erson 1.6 roller rockers
B3re geometry correction
Billet rocker hold downs and studs
Lashed to .020/.024 hot
HD distributor gear/pump drive
A crap ton of driven assembly lube
Trick flow 190 heads
Mopar M1 modded intake (burr finish(done by me and probably a hindrance ,I'm not a pro), epoxied to square bore, back passage coolant lines.
Hvh super sucker (left on for every pull)
Autolite 3924's
A friend's msd distributor and wires
A friend's Holley 750 set up for his 408.
Mix of 91 and 112 unleaded. So 95 octane?

Results:
Dyno's onsite weather station
5200 foot elevation
90* today
25.7 in
42.3 relative
546hp/557tq corrected
Edited to reduce some of my confusion. Thanks

Lmk if I missed something.
Thanks,
Keith

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Looks like you are feeding water to the side of the block.
May I ask what is custom on your Cometic head gaskets?
 
Duane said:
Looks like you are feeding water to the side of the block.
May I ask what is custom on your Cometic head gaskets?
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They are your design. Just in a .040 thickness. It was easier to say custom Cometics then repost all your changes. And didn't want to post pics because your name is associated with the part numbers in Cometics system.
 
khuebner250 said:
They are your design. Just in a .040 thickness. It was easier to say custom Cometics then repost all your changes. And didn't want to post pics because your name is associated with the part numbers in Cometics system.
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Well gosh darn. Glad you had confidence in them.
I have not fired my motor yet.
Do the gaskets seem to work ok. No leaks I assume.?
 
Duane said:
Well gosh darn. Glad you had confidence in them.
I have not fired my motor yet.
Do the gaskets seem to work ok. No leaks I assume.?
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No leaks. Held a vacuum and pressure during mock up. No leaks on the Dyno! I did copper seal them though, just personal preference.
 
khuebner250 said:
No leaks. Held a vacuum and pressure during mock up. No leaks on the Dyno! I did copper seal them though, just personal preference.
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Glad to hear they are working out. I used hylomar around all the water and oil passages on mine. Like you said personal preference and hopefully cheap insurance. If I may ask what convinced you to plumb to the side of the block?
 
Duane said:
Glad to hear they are working out. I used hylomar around all the water and oil passages on mine. Like you said personal preference and hopefully cheap insurance. If I may ask what convinced you to plumb to the side of the block?
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Idk...I read Sanborns threads, big inch strokers and I have a buddy with a 408 that runs hotter than I think it should. Granted I plumbed into the#3 freeze plug due to header clearance. And I'm running spark plug boots and dei thermal barrier on the braided line. Also did the intake plumbing. We'll see how long it holds up.
 
One of the Moparts members has his ProMax heads for sale so he can buy TrickFlow heads. He ran 10.80's with the ProMax so this may be a good test. Personally I wouldn't do that because I know with porting I could get the ProMax to out perform the out of the box trickFlow heads.
 
Duster3406pck said:
On imm engines facebook he built a 506hp 506tq 408 with tf heads
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I am proud to say that is my engine with Trickflow heads. Don't know the cam specs ( he said it is a custom grind from comp) but it is a relatively small hydraulic roller built for driveability more than wringing every last horsepower out of it. I told him I wanted 500 hp and 500 tq and able to run PB and A/C. Said it idles with 13.5 in vacuum. Looks like he gave me exactly what I wanted. Only problem is my car is not ready for it yet.
 
On imm engines facebook he built a 506hp 506tq 408 with tf heads
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I told him I wanted 500 hp and 500 tq and able to run PB and A/C. Said it idles with 13.5 in vacuum. Looks like he gave me exactly what I wanted.
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And just like that the “panic” has been brought down a notch.
 
67dodgedartconv said:
I am proud to say that is my engine with Trickflow heads. Don't know the cam specs ( he said it is a custom grind from comp) but it is a relatively small hydraulic roller built for driveability more than wringing every last horsepower out of it. I told him I wanted 500 hp and 500 tq and able to run PB and A/C. Said it idles with 13.5 in vacuum. Looks like he gave me exactly what I wanted. Only problem is my car is not ready for it yet.
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Are the heads right ootb or did he port them at all?
 
PRH said:
And just like that the “panic” has been brought down a notch.
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I read the same posts. The main reason I posted my numbers was to give folks some solid information from a reputable builder. Can't tell anyone what a max hp build would yield but those are the numbers for my fairly mild build with out of the box heads.
 
67dodgedartconv said:
I am proud to say that is my engine with Trickflow heads. Don't know the cam specs ( he said it is a custom grind from comp) but it is a relatively small hydraulic roller built for driveability more than wringing every last horsepower out of it. I told him I wanted 500 hp and 500 tq and able to run PB and A/C. Said it idles with 13.5 in vacuum. Looks like he gave me exactly what I wanted. Only problem is my car is not ready for it yet.
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Well this is your engine in action:


I looked at the pictures on his Facebook page, looks like a RPM Air Gap with a 1 inch spacer (?), can't tell the header size, but test was ran with mufflers, looks like the combo is working well. IIRC IMM's earlier TFS street engine was in the 460 HP range, so it looks like he has figured something out. Now as far as panic, yea, that was my fault, I'll go sit in my corner and shut up. Congrats on the engine.
 
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Once someone builds a fairly straightforward combo in the 600hp range...... everyone will be looking at each other and nodding their heads saying....... “oh yeh....... that’s what I figured”.
 
DrEamer said:
Well is your engine in action:


I looked at the pictures on his Facebook page, looks like a RPM Air Gap with a 1 inch spacer (?), can't tell the header size, but test was ran with mufflers, looks like the combo is working well. IIRC IMM's earlier TFS street engine was in the 460 HP range, so it looks like he has figured something out. Now as far as panic, yea, that was my fault, I'll go sit in my corner and shut up. Congrats on the engine.
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2 different engine builds..
 
DrEamer said:
Well is your engine in action:


I looked at the pictures on his Facebook page, looks like a RPM Air Gap with a 1 inch spacer (?), can't tell the header size, but test was ran with mufflers, looks like the combo is working well. IIRC IMM's earlier TFS street engine was in the 460 HP range, so it looks like he has figured something out. Now as far as panic, yea, that was my fault, I'll go sit in my corner and shut up. Congrats on the engine.
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Thanks, yes, it is an air gap manifold although I will be running Sniper EFI on it. The compression is either 10.5 or 10 to 1, don't remember. Told him I needed it to run on pump 91 gas if I had to.
 
67dodgedartconv said:
Thanks, yes, it is an air gap manifold although I will be running Sniper EFI on it. The compression is either 10.5 or 10 to 1, don't remember. Told him I needed it to run on pump 91 gas if I had to.
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460hp ain’t no slouch you will be surprised on how well it will go and the bottom end torque will have you grinning, it will be a fun car to drive with good street manners. You will love the sniper once it’s all dialed in.
 
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Thanks, but mine is the 506 hp engine. I'm sure I will like the Sniper .
Will be nice to let it control timing and have the rev limiter built in too among the other benefits.
 
Mine is 460hp 518 flb solid roller not using Trick flows and it’s a rush torque is awesome. Very quick street use car only and a happy sniper customer !
 
pittsburghracer said:
One of the Moparts members has his ProMax heads for sale so he can buy TrickFlow heads. He ran 10.80's with the ProMax so this may be a good test. Personally I wouldn't do that because I know with porting I could get the ProMax to out perform the out of the box trickFlow heads.
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That would be me. You're probably correct. I don't have the knowledge or the time to do port work.
 
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