What PARTS did Hurst and Chrysler put in the Super Stock Barracuda & Dart not in other factory cars

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SSing said:
Other than a stock A-Body BB radiator, aluminum seven blade fan and clutch drive, eight blade water pump and no shroud, and probably no thermostat, was there anything else to make the cooling system special other than no shroud mounted?
And as for the clutch drive, it was torque driven, not thermostatic run... was this special to this fan unit and engine?
Just curious to get this right...
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I thought it was the 216 fan with clutch. Same as 68 street Hemi.

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SSing said:
Don´t know, may be same fan... But the non-thermostatic torque drive viscous clutch fan unite is mentioned in the SS Guide.
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Non thermostatic and 7 blade in picture I posted.
 
autoxcuda said:
Non thermostatic and 7 blade in picture I posted.
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ok than... clutch you can have Troy ship to me :).
So I had to look a little deeper in to this, and fan is not the same. I may have some good pics from an original engine compartment.
This picture from the SS Guide shows typical pattern of the rivets you found on the fan of the SS Hemi.

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SSing said:
ok than... clutch you can have Troy ship to me :).
So I had to look a little deeper in to this, and fan is not the same. I may have some good pics from an original engine compartment.
This picture from the SS Guide shows typical pattern of the rivets you found on the fan of the SS Hemi.

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Thais is wrong

I also bin questioning this fan and clutch set up. I talked to Jim shields about this. Jim used a generic fan for the picture. The one in the picture is not correct. I sup possible have an original one off a factory SS car. 070 clutch and the fan is aluminum blade

correction I should have said fan looks correct but not the clutch (aftermarket)

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Wrong fan maybe, but I´m referring to the pattern of the rivets, and that is correct.
If you know what to look for, this old picture clearly show rivets are placed in the same pattern as fan pictured in the SS Guide, and of cause the fan in your pics... Thanks for sharing them...

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Hello everybody. Here are a few things that I have learned and I "believe" to be true.
..The fan used is an aluminum bladed fan that was found in C body's that year.
..The "070" fan clutch is correct for these cars.
..On the Darts the front bumper brackets were thinner but they also deleted the two outward brackets.
..Bob Torozzi told me the was they made the bumpers were they took two sheet of steel that equaled the same thickness of a stock bumper, put them in the bumper press and stamped them. Then they prayed out the inner bumper and used the outer bumper. He said it was a real pain in the butt.
..Bob also said the rear ends were B body rear ends but the spring purchase were moved for the new spring location.
..The first run of Darts ( I think it was Darts but it might of been the Cudas) the front fenders and hood were Blue gel coat, not black gel coat. Major vender problems.
..Bob designed the k member but the vender that made the k member did a very poor job making them. Many of these cars had the headers delivered in the trunk because of poor header fitment.
..Last but not least. On the Darts, there were THREE different wheel well cutouts shapes. The first design.....in the front of the wheel well goes straight up and down. This did not work well when the cars went super stock racing. The second and third design, the area in the front of the wheel went down at an angle and that made more room for taller tires.
..one more thing...these cars were thrown together by non union workers. They did not give a darn about these cars and they made things work. I heard from two different people that Hurst had 20 minutes to cut, bang and weld the rear wheels....both sides!! They did what they had to do to get the cars out the door. If they ran out of thin glass.....they put in thick glass. If they ran out of thin bumper bracket then they put in stock bumper brackets.
Hope this helps.
 
davescuda said:
from the spring to the backing plate. If it was a b body rear it would have a lot more space.
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That picture above looks like an 8 3/4.
You must remember that the rear wheels where also modified. The centers were pushed out an extra 1.250 to account for the wider rear end. Chrysler new that the racers were going to tub and narrow the rear end.....they just wanted to make sure the racers had parts they can work with and modify on there own.
In that picture the rim has a lot of back spacing and a slick tire. Look how much "bubble" the tire has and that is why the tire is close to the spring.
 
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Here is a picture of my Dart. B body 8 3/4, Super Stock springs with the correct offset hangers. The differential housing length is not modified at all. Just the saddles have been moved in so the offset hangers can be used.
 
davescuda , isn't that pics of a 8 3/4 r/e , see the tubes getting fish mouthed at the left of the housing .dana tubes are straight . and i thought the b super stock dana was 52'' axle flange to axle flange ?
 
you guys are right with 8 3/4 but goes with the whole theory of B body rears the spring is to close. I think I have another picture.
 
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I talked to Arlen Vanke (RIP) about this and he said they where not 68 B body Dana's. He said they were Dana's built for these cars. Just going on what he told me.
Are 67 B Body Dana's narrower?
 
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From the original cars I have seen there was a space between the seat cushion and back. This observation is based on 2 recent auction cars and 2 original cars a local person has in his collection.
 
Again just based on what I was told...so take it for what it worth...the person I purchased an original magnesium manifold from which was purported to be from a LO23 car....had a Dana which was again supposedly from that same LO23 that I also purchased...it was a B body Dana. And measurements of this axle are the same as a M code A12 RR. I do not say this proves or disproves anything just a contribution to this on going conversation. Just an observation. Nothing more.
 
Maybe I am being Captain Obvious, but I don't think anybody mentioned that one 'piece' the Super Stocks had that the stock cars did not was the 426 Hemi!
 
think you mean just race 426 hemi , the standard 426 hemi was an option in the other bodies , but the a body did not . and the other body types were offer the race 426 hemi option also .
 
pomonamissel said:
think you mean just race 426 hemi , the standard 426 hemi was an option in the other bodies , but the a body did not . and the other body types were offer the race 426 hemi option also .
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You're right, of course. Don't know what I was thinking. But it still hadn't been mentioned. Then again, EVERY single time I take my 69 340 Barracuda to a show or cruise night, somebody tells me their uncle used to have one, but his had a hemi.
 
I've heard that the steering arms were changed to reduce bump steer, which I assume was worse after the K member spacers were installed.
I wonder if they bent stock pieces, or if it was a unique part?
 
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