help-understand Milleniums?

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i have read a few threads on the subject, people's opinions.

grandkid he turned 19 last Feb. lives 250 mi away. I try to get info from daughter, ( born in '76). all I ever get is the basics. I guess Milleniums start in maybe '80!
he is A student , loves sports especially basketball and track. got a part time job this summer at McDonalds, they live in rural town pop bout 6,000. works out at local Y 3 tomes a week, plays basket ball several times a week. he wants to get further education and job that pays BIG $$. O K.....

I asked daughter to find out if kid wants me to send him old Mopar mags for him to look at. never hear back. do these kids have NO desire to work and have their own car or just drive parents, have grand ma drive them, what ever??????

my 2 daughters born in "65 and '76) had jobs after school weekends, they found, bought and keep their own cars on the road. self sufficient I guess you call it. guts. determination. they did not expect someone to fulfil their needs.

just wondering.
 
Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation[1] orGeneration Y, abbreviated to Gen Y) are the demographiccohort between Generation X and Generation Z. There are no precise dates for when the generation starts and ends. Demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and use the mid 1990s to the early 2000s as final birth years for the Millennial Generation.
 
as a group as I have read some of they tend to think and regard the world. I trust my grandkids will think on their own, but peer pressure is always there. jut wondering if anyone has some knowledge of how they click.
I understand my parents generation, and my generation. have no real idea bout this gen Y, other than what little I read. what I do read does not sound promising.
 
They are now re-tooling jobs to be "new millennial" friendly. Really, it just means less accountability. Start at 7 means approx. 7. Cell phones while working is a right, get the picture?
 
Generally the boys in that generation only work because they have to but would WAY rather play video games, and is generally all they do when not working.
They want a nice car, but would really like someone to give them one and once they have it they would rather play video games than check the oil or coolant in it.
They tend to think getting hired is all they have to do, and not have to actually do any work.
They think they know everything but have actually done nothing, so in my own opinion we are coming up on having a bunch of people who could tell you all about it but no idea on how to actually get it done.

The girls don't seem to have changed as much.
In their early teens they are still snotty little entitled bitches that can't seem to leave each other alone and stay out of each others business.
They would really like a more responsible boyfriend but they are all playing video games instead of building a life.
It seems the girls are realizing more these days that boys are a detriment to their future instead of a necessity for it.
As productive members of society it looks like the women are going to be the ones to count on for our county's future.

Of course there are exceptions, but this is the tendencies I have seen having four kids (oldest in her 30's, and youngest 25) and 6 grandkids the oldest being 18.
And yes, almost all of them think a phone call or text is a higher priority that the job they are supposed to be doing.
 
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good real life info Trail Beast. i'm pretty sure my 4 grandkids, aged 9 to 19 figure i.m a hard, mean, old fashioned, straight talking SOB. ( sorry but there is not a nice word for it! ha)... I politely, say jump, they ask politely "how high? ". No I have never knocked one own their a**. maybe the daughter warned them??
I ne ver even had a cell phone till 10 months ago. the home is heated with wood. we eat real food, not Mc Donalds. get up early and in bed by 8 ha! sometimes 7. we thank the good Lord for each day. and appreciate what we have.

I guess the daughter never let me know what the kids thinks bout the subject of transportation, as no doubt I would not like what he is thinking. whatever it is, I rather know! ha

I would not buy or give him a car no matter how old or cheap ( yea I have plenty that would do), , he would pay for it and learn to fix and maintain it. ha! maybe I will hear nothin! oh well.... ha
 
Agree with the big picture summary about their values but in response to the car subject, what your Grandson's generation is driving are full of technology, they don't see them as something you fix by yourself. They didn't grow up with old Mopars so they don't have that strong feeling like we have. Just like we didn't grow up taking care of horses for our transportation like our great-grandparents did...as I see it anyway.
 
My grandparents were in the horses and buggy era but they owned cars trucks and heavy equipment. This generation is totally different, this servant"internet" has become the master. Now about that infrastructure crash.
 
A lot of young people have no desire to drive these days :( Many are looking forward to autonomous vehicles so they can play their PSP all the way to work:banghead:
 
ab7fh said:
A lot of young people have no desire to drive these days :( Many are looking forward to autonomous vehicles so they can play their PSP all the way to work:banghead:
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Work???????
 
goldfish65 said:
Agree with the big picture summary about their values but in response to the car subject, what your Grandson's generation is driving are full of technology, they don't see them as something you fix by yourself. They didn't grow up with old Mopars so they don't have that strong feeling like we have. Just like we didn't grow up taking care of horses for our transportation like our great-grandparents did...as I see it anyway.
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I agree with what you said. but even back in the 60's, when every kid got 16 , he wanted a car. any car. rick kids wanted a NICE car! ha ... did they in general want to worl on it, fix it? no.. they wanted a cool ride, add some fancy mags and a tack, and be cool! at 16 I ha a job at the local grocery every afternoon and 12 1/2 hrs sat. dad GAVE me an old 49 chevy,. this was 1964. did I really want to have this job, NOT really..... all but 4 kids in my class of 66 had NO job. sure some had to help on the farm..... BUT I wanted to be self sufficient. buy my gas, pay it all, pay my way.
my real love was my quarter horses. I paid for it all, the horses, the feed, the shoer. I bought them,. broke and trained them, sold them. it paid its way, self sufficient. yes I wanted a FAST car, dad so NO, you will kill your fool self> he was probably right. less likely the horse would kill me. I figured in a couple years Nam would kill me. ( showed what I knew)...
my love of horses I figure is genetic. comes from long line of family. genetic. borm with feel, timing, balance, understanding. but, a horseman will learn till he dies. now,.... I figure people that have that " mechanical ability" that they seem to be born with, it is genetic! ??? ha ... does it come easy for me. NO! do I love it? yes.....
' I figure these kids coming along, like all those generations before them, NEED to understand how automobiles work! even if they never turn a wrench. understand why some cars are better suited, more reliable, than others. generally what it takes to FIX their broken car!!!????? because they pay that bill!!!!!
 
I am 22 and Bought a 73 duster as my daily car. I see kids my age like older stuff but they have no real desire to learn or work on the stuff. They like Diesels and Nissans.
 
I can remember as early as 3 wanting a car. The childhood friend I grew up with and I probably buried more real Hot Wheels redline cars in my back yard than most people have owned. I worked my butt off from age nine to 13 to buy my first car.......and ended up getting two for one. I had three cars when I was 14, before I even had my learner's permit. When I was in the 10th grade, I had four cars. A 67 Triumph Spitfire, 73 Nova with a big block, 73 340 Rally Charger and a 71 440 R/T Charger. All bought, paid for and insured by me.

My son is now 26. Lives in Phoenix. Has never owned a car. Doesn't care. Has the drive for nothing except playing video games all day. That's one reason he no longer lives here. I think he would be content to sit on his *** the rest of his life with his beloved XBox. It's something I will never understand.

Here I am disabled, dying to get a car built and can barely workon something in this heat for 20 minutes and I am done. Really pisses me off. Not all these kids are like that though. I have one regular customer who went to school with my son. They were pretty good friends. This young man makes me proud and I am not even his father. He is already a union Journeyman electrician. Real nice kid. Drives a 2012 Challenger and just bought an 08 Ram 1500. Has a real good head on his shoulders. So there is some hope.............
 
My theory, it started with TV. Made humans passive. Heck I remember as a 3 yr old, my favorite time was Saturday morning I'd jump out of bed and plop down in front of the TV and watch The Jetsons. Key word "watch." Back when my Dad grew up in a small town, they had to go outside to entertain themselves by scrounging scrap wood and building things.
 
I do not know who this performer is, but I feel that he is speaking (or singing) language you can understand!
You've Gotta Love Millennials - Micah Tyler - YouTube

How many of you are like my friend? When his kids were growing up (millenials) he really did not want to do much with them. Never showed them or engaged them in working on his car (a 66 Mustang), yard work or anything. Did not go to their soccer games - always too busy or had some excuse. Now he does not understand why they have no interest in his car, etc.?
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One of my Sons bought a Ford Taurus (well, Mom helped him) and burned up the transmission a year later because he just couldn't bring himself to check fluids even when the car was surging from low trans fluid.
I basically said F it, I'm not doing it for them anymore.
Two of my kids have asked about my Dart (when I don't need it anymore) which was an interesting subject to listen to them try to navigate. :D
When am I not going to need it?, hmmm.
I told them if anything happens to me that car goes directly to their Mom for whatever she needs to do, and if she gives it to one of them fine, and if she makes one of them buy it from her that's fine too.

I also grew up on farms, ranches and did a lot of horse related stuff when I was younger.
Hand me a saddle and bridle and point me to which horse, I can do the rest.
Like you mentioned kind of like riding a bicycle, and funny enough why I knew how to tie a tie when I got older. LOL
I remember asking my Dad when I was about 9 why I had to stand there in the snow storm holding tools he could just as easily put in his pocket, and he told me I wouldn't learn anything if he put the tools in his pocket. :D
I was driving every piece of equipment we had by the time I was 13, and neighbors would come get me to grade a road with our road grader or pull a dead tree out with the caterpillar while my Dad was at work.
Show me any tool or piece of equipment on most any job site, and I can tell you what every single thing in the place is and what it does, as well as how to use it. (after all at one time in my life I was responsible for all the equipment maint and training for 3 rental stores) Taylor Rentals, and have used them pretty much my entire life anyway.
I do all of our house repairs, electrical appliances and any construction related items and all of the repairs on our 3 vehicles, plus a little for friends and neighbors here and there if they need help.
Was an MP in the military because I came from a law enforcement family, and got out in 1976.
Even though I was just a hair young for the draft I joined not long after Viet Nam thinking they might have learned a lesson there and not do something like that again for awhile. :D

I have stacked up a lot of experience in my life of 60 years, and todays youth seem like they couldn't care less about so much as even knowing any of it, let alone how to actually do any of it.
 
Easy now guys! It ain't all of us young guys! I was born in '85, got a job wen I was 15yrs old and have been working since! Moved out at 18 on my dime, got married at 20 on my dime, bought my house when I was 25, owned 45+ cars on my dime, taking the wife to Italy next week on my dime! I'm proud to say that I got *** whoopins' when I deserved 'em, was taught respect and the rewards of hard work! I've got two kids, 10 and 7, and they get the same kind of raising I got!

The problem with the majority of these "millennials" is that they haven't been raised right! You take away parents and teachers right to correct and chastise a disobedient child, and this is what you get! This problem started a long time ago when people chose to take the easy way out and let the kids act how they wanted! Now we've got a nation of lazy, entitled, useless, helpless, educated idiots!
 
You guys quit Snivel-in.. Just come to Grip's with the concept that times are changing, It Don't matter if you like it or not !!!!
Your ether going to be engaged with it? Or your just going to be pissed off and sitting around smoldering about it.
I just shack my head and say (Keep Walk'in)... :)
 
My daughter (currently 21) has been a go getter as far back as I can remember. At 15 she begged me to work at a local pizza joint so she can make her own money for music. CD's, guitar strings, her own Amp.

Her now husband (6 months older) used his own money to school himself in automotive. He is a mechanic and loves it. Whip smart with an excellent memory. Nether or self righteous or snotty. There currently looking to purchase a house. How many 21 year old married couples do you know looking to purchase a house?

My nephew just came to live with us leaving Fl. Behind. He complained it was to hot and no decent jobs available. His mom decided to remove him from the bad friends curtailing his life. Now away from it all, he seeks a job and signed up for HVAC classes at the local community collage.

Moral of the story?

BE a parent and start with telling them the cold hard truth. You want something, get up off your *** and work towards that goal because no one is going to just give you it. Push them towards a goal and then some. Help them, not hand them.
 
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limegreen70 said:
I am 22 and Bought a 73 duster as my daily car. I see kids my age like older stuff but they have no real desire to learn or work on the stuff. They like Diesels and Nissans.
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I'm always glad to see somebody in under 25 into this hobby. You are not alone. The majority are being spoken of in this thread, but there are still some under 25 that work very hard, and there are still some under 25 that like our hobby. This is why I like to encourage the "teen" crowd when they show up here on FABO. Too often they're told "that topic has been covered a thousand times, use the search bar". Or, "you need X amount of dollars to play in our hobby". They probably have a hard time finding friends they associate with to talk to about cars, so they find this site and turn to us.
The very reason I put my 318 magnum project aside and did the 500.00 dollar 318 project with videos to explain.
 
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Barrbee, if your grandsons isn't into cars, then that might just be a non interesting thing for him. You could just pack up the whole lot of mags into a box and mail them off with a note that simply says, "Enjoy! I did. It's a great hobby. It helped save me tons of cash!"
Not hearing back from the family is another issue you will have to contend with. I recommend a in person visit. They yield the best results.
 
vntned said:
Easy now guys! It ain't all of us young guys! I was born in '85, got a job wen I was 15yrs old and have been working since! Moved out at 18 on my dime, got married at 20 on my dime, bought my house when I was 25, owned 45+ cars on my dime, taking the wife to Italy next week on my dime! I'm proud to say that I got *** whoopins' when I deserved 'em, was taught respect and the rewards of hard work! I've got two kids, 10 and 7, and they get the same kind of raising I got!

The problem with the majority of these "millennials" is that they haven't been raised right! You take away parents and teachers right to correct and chastise a disobedient child, and this is what you get! This problem started a long time ago when people chose to take the easy way out and let the kids act how they wanted! Now we've got a nation of lazy, entitled, useless, helpless, educated idiots!
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It's true, and to be raised right you need to have a parent at home and not have to both be out working to make it.
I hold our government and lack of accountability in our financial system partially responsible for how kids get raised these days.



racerhog said:
You guys quit Snivel-in.. Just come to Grip's with the concept that times are changing, It Don't matter if you like it or not !!!!
Your ether going to be engaged with it? Or your just going to be pissed off and sitting around smoldering about it.
I just shack my head and say (Keep Walk'in)... :)
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No pissed off and no sniveling about it, just the way it is and recognizing it.
You can't fix anything if everyone ignores that there is a problem and doesn't discuss it.
It's kind of like having a serious race discussion and all goes well until someone cries "racism" and completely ruins the ability to even discuss it.



rumblefish360 said:
My daughter (currently 21) has been a go getter as far back as I can remember. At 15 she begged me to work at a local pizza joint so she can make her own money for music. CD's, guitar strings, her own Amp.

Her now husband (6 months older) used his own money to school himself in automotive. He is a mechanic and loves it. Whip smart with an excellent memory. Nether or self righteous or snotty. There currently looking to purchase a house. How many 21 year old married couples do you know looking to purchase a house?

My nephew just came to live with us leaving Fl. Behind. He complained it was to hot and no decent jobs available. His mom decided to remove him from the bad friends curtailing his life. Now away from it all, he seeks a job and signed up for HVAC classes at the local community collage.

Moral of the story?

BE a parent and start with telling them the cold hard truth. You want something, get up off your *** and work towards that goal because no one is going to just give you it. Push them towards a goal and then some. Help them, not hand them.
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This is exactly how my youngest Son (25) is.
What's weird is he was the one that caused the most trouble and had the biggest issues with his attitude out of all the rest of them.
Rebellious, angry, aggressive, smart mouth little SOB when he was little, and now the most reasonable and productive kid we have. :D
 
318willrun said:
I'm always glad to see somebody in under 25 into this hobby. You are not alone. The majority are being spoken of in this thread, but there are still some under 25 that work very hard, and there are still some under 25 that like our hobby. This is why I like to encourage the "teen" crowd when they show up here on FABO. Too often they're told "that topic has been covered a thousand times, use the search bar". Or, "you need X amount of dollars to play in our hobby". They probably have a hard time finding friends they associate with to talk to about cars, so they find this site and turn to us.
The very reason I put my 318 magnum project aside and did the 500.00 dollar 318 project with videos to explain.
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I would serve us and our hobby well to remember that fact.
Thank you.
 
Good to read that Trailbeast.

I myself started working nights (12-8) 22 years ago and will continue to do so until my lil'guy is out of school. Which will run me to retirement age.

Small price for being "In" my kids life.
 
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