1965 Dodge Dart Charger

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65dartcharger said:
Thanks!

The 4 points taken off were;
- Two small oil drips on the transmission oil pan
- One anti-freeze drip on the K-frame. Missed when we cleaned the engine after sealing one of the heater hose
- One crack on the looking strip front lower corner drivers side
- Correct date coded spare tire but has probably 100 miles on it

For the Mopar at the Strip show the anti-freeze and transmission oil drips will be removed! :glasses7:
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Ouch. That's harsh. If that's the level of scrutiny, 996 is truly unbelievable. :prayer:
 
Really nice interview and glad they took the time to talk to you. For all the effort and time you put into the Dart you deserve the accolades. Hope you take the time to drive and enjoy a nice piece of art.
 
65dartcharger said:
Thanks!

The 4 points taken off were;
- Two small oil drips on the transmission oil pan
- One anti-freeze drip on the K-frame. Missed when we cleaned the engine after sealing one of the heater hose
- One crack on the looking strip front lower corner drivers side
- Correct date coded spare tire but has probably 100 miles on it

For the Mopar at the Strip show the anti-freeze and transmission oil drips will be removed! :glasses7:
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Obviously these judges have never been in a Chrysler assembly plant! Oil/coolant drips from joints that are not fully sealed are NORMAL!!

I'd argue that given the fact that the locking strip for the windshield was installed in 45 seconds or so, the occasional crack in the mylar is also normal.

I'll concede the `slightly' used spare tire. From the factory that would have still had sprues on the tread face.

In my mind, you have a 999 point car..
 
at least you got to know what the points were deducted for, will be interesting to see the next points alotted...here in Australia only the top 10 cars who's owners know the judges get that kind of information...if your cars is close to getting there they will tell you nothing...knowing why gives everybody the chance to improve their car, isn't improvement what it's all about!!
 
Martythetrimmer said:
at least you got to know what the points were deducted for, will be interesting to see the next points alotted...here in Australia only the top 10 cars who's owners know the judges get that kind of information...if your cars is close to getting there they will tell you nothing...knowing why gives everybody the chance to improve their car, isn't improvement what it's all about!!
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The goal for me during the restoration was to recreate history. I wanted the car to be just the way it was when it rolled off the assembly line.

I must say that after attended the shows at Chrysler at Carlisle, Mopar Nationals and MCACN the judges has been very helpful. From the judges perspective they shall judge the restoration so it is not overrestored. They need to have great experience and a big know-how on how cars was assembled back in the days. Remember that all stations on a line has a certain amount of time for each process. Mounting front windshield = 5 minutes. That gives an idea how much time the assembly line workers had to do a correct job! From that the judges try to see how the car has been restored and if it looks the way it left the factory. If they were not sure they asked on how it looked and how I restored it the way it was. So they were very humble during their work.

Here I must one again say that all the help I have recieved from different FABO members is way more then I could expect. You are a true gold mine!

When I got the sheets from the judges I was satiesfied and felt confident about the process. As you mentioned it is all about improving the restoration on the cars. At the MCACN show we got the sheets on the price ceremony the day after the judging.

One of the head judges, Dave Wise once said that restoring a car is to recreate history! I totally agree on that!
 
My car made it into the last issue of Mopar Action! Can't wait to get it!
 

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Have continued to work on my 65 Darts. I will continue follow ups from the shows (next one is MATS in Vegas) and put new discoveries here from factory how the procedures.

Last night I paryed with a rear axle from a Valiant 65 built at Hamtramck.

On my Dartcharger I had some thoughts about that piece of tejp that was covering the hole for the mpunting bolt for the brake tee. Well, it's the same on this one! It's seems to be some kind of white textile tejp covering the hole for paint or dirt during the factory process. The width on the tejp is 1/2" and the length about one inch.

Anyone else seeing this?
 

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65dartcharger said:
Have continued to work on my 65 Darts. I will continue follow ups from the shows (next one is MATS in Vegas) and put new discoveries here from factory how the procedures.

Last night I paryed with a rear axle from a Valiant 65 built at Hamtramck.

On my Dartcharger I had some thoughts about that piece of tejp that was covering the hole for the mpunting bolt for the brake tee. Well, it's the same on this one! It's seems to be some kind of white textile tejp covering the hole for paint or dirt during the factory process. The width on the tejp is 1/2" and the length about one inch.

Anyone else seeing this?
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Two things immediately come to mind First, from the jagged edges of the tape, it must have been in something very much like a normal scotch tape dispenser. The jagged edges look like the teeth from one of those holders. Second, if the tape is fabric, then the most commonly available material like that would be the white medical tape that doctors and/or hospitals used if you had a small wound and covered it up with gauze or a pad of cotton batton. I'm not completely sure this tape is still even made. I get a similar type of tape every time I go for a blood test but it appears to be plastic based and not cloth. I also recall that this tape dispense came in a round pressed tin can with a snap on lid and hole through the center. Bottom line, I think your first place to look for it is a pharmacy.

I have picked up the issue of Mopar Action with your car featured but haven't had the opportunity to read it thoroughly. I'm really hoping the author appreciates what you have achieved with the restoration of your car. "Restoration" has become a badly over-used and incorrectly used term in the last 10-15 years. Rebuilding a car to suit the owner's taste and calling it restored is not a restoration. You have achieved an actual restoration (well, next time you'll be able to stay a little closer to those 45 second cycle times - LOL!) and deserve every accolade you have received. I also will repeat my comment that the judges as experienced as they are do not seem to have real world Chrysler assembly plant experience. If they do not like fluid drips, I can only imagine how they would score orange peel and paint runs - all of which are very much "original".
 
kmccabe56 said:
Two things immediately come to mind First, from the jagged edges of the tape, it must have been in something very much like a normal scotch tape dispenser. The jagged edges look like the teeth from one of those holders. Second, if the tape is fabric, then the most commonly available material like that would be the white medical tape that doctors and/or hospitals used if you had a small wound and covered it up with gauze or a pad of cotton batton. I'm not completely sure this tape is still even made. I get a similar type of tape every time I go for a blood test but it appears to be plastic based and not cloth. I also recall that this tape dispense came in a round pressed tin can with a snap on lid and hole through the center. Bottom line, I think your first place to look for it is a pharmacy.

I have picked up the issue of Mopar Action with your car featured but haven't had the opportunity to read it thoroughly. I'm really hoping the author appreciates what you have achieved with the restoration of your car. "Restoration" has become a badly over-used and incorrectly used term in the last 10-15 years. Rebuilding a car to suit the owner's taste and calling it restored is not a restoration. You have achieved an actual restoration (well, next time you'll be able to stay a little closer to those 45 second cycle times - LOL!) and deserve every accolade you have received. I also will repeat my comment that the judges as experienced as they are do not seem to have real world Chrysler assembly plant experience. If they do not like fluid drips, I can only imagine how they would score orange peel and paint runs - all of which are very much "original".
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Thanks Kevin!

I will check with the pharmacy in town. I will keep you posted.

I think Rick and Cliff from Mopar Action did a great job. They asked tjons of questions and really wanted to dig to the deep bottom on the restoratopn project.

In August I will start to dis-assemble my wagon for a ground up restoration. I will talk with my assembly line manager of those 45 seconds for the cycle time. I might get 60 seconds! :glasses7:
 
The TV team emailed me the other day. V8TV has an interview from MCACN last November.

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That is a very cool interview Ulf. I caught it on Facebook and shared it with my Mopar pals there. I picked up Mopar Action and a great article their too. Very well done!
 
Now it's time to round up all my stuff incl my sons and take off to LA. I will be fun to go to the MATS show in Vegas.

We will meet up with another great guy who also has a 1965 Dart Charger so it will be two of them! How cool is that?

:burnout:
 
Finally my car is ready for the MATS, Musclecar At The Strip! Great show and lots of great Mopars. Even a bunch of nice early A-bodies too.

Got to meet some FABO members too! Even Tom Coddington and his buddy from the Ramchargers showed up. They had some ideas for my tribute car!
 

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We're glad you posted this so we can follow along. I hope you are having a great time here and good luck with the competition. We are all behind you all the way! Mike
 
Good luck to you!

Nice looking '66.

I've woatched a little of the live feed from the drag strip that Hot Rod put out. Like the sound. :D
 
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