6.1 Hemi into 72 Demon March 2018

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Bodyperson said:
And here I thought the coolie was just another template. LOL Thank YOU and Joey. I admire you craftsmanship and your ability to explain and share your build with an entertaining perspective.
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Thank you BP for the feedback. At almost 60 years old this forum is literally my first foray into social media. Frankly it scared the crap out of me. It is quite intimidating at first. My children and grandchildren all use face book but I decided early on that was not for me. But I felt to stay in touch and at very least quasi in tune I needed to adapt to some newer things. The real catalyst was changing my Cuda to EFI. It forced me to utilize the web for knowledge. Wife laughs at me continually for being very tech savvy professionally and so Neanderthal personally. It dawned on me that I could adopt the same Thirst for knowledge in both arenas. I love to teach and am always in hope that someone new to the hobby is gaining something from the posts. Clearly none of us do this for the money as it takes us all years and years for each build. I bit different to TV where the transformation takes a couple of weeks. Like most it is just something I do on the side and do not have unlimited resources or time. Life gets in the way pretty regular. Thanks again for the feedback and have a great year.
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So yesterday I tackled the CAI box, a lot of folks do not make a box around the CAI but I think while it is a pain it does several positive things. Seperate air from road debris a bit and provides a bit of a heat barrier. I had to also get the overflow tank in place prior to the box on the CAI as that is a busy little area. Today is my day to empty my box and wipe it all down as I have a lot of metal dust in the air in my shop. I hate doing it but if you don't you end up with layers and layers of metal debris in your box so I do it on New Years every year. You will note the one pix is a shameless plug for Joey and FABO. This site has been invaluable to me for knowledge and learning this last year. Heartfelt thanks to Joey and all his moderators for keeping us in line. The shot of his beer coolie is least I could do in appreciation for all they do.

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Nice tool box as well.
 
Fred Scigliano said:
Nice tool box as well.
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So this weekend I had a Bantam hockey tournament so time on car was limited. I did however attempt to install the P/U tube and change out the windage tray. Epic fail! When you do this conversion you have to get a different oil pan which is a center pickup vs the factory forward pickup. As the factory pan creates an impedance with the rack and pinion setup. My K frame is an HDK so I have lots of room for headers etc. very nicely built by the way. So anyway I get the factory windage tray off and make sure new one fits etc. I bolt the P/U tube in place and it is a perfect fit....... well except for the whole pointed outside the oil pan part. At this point I am thinking clearly I am an idiot and it must mount somewhere else. Nope, it is in right spot. The only conclusion is that mother Milodon had a jig malfunction during manufacture as the part numbers indicate I have the correct part. Did I mention I waited all summer for the stupid part. Being a welder my solution to everything is to slash and weld. I was so frustrated this summer over the delay I was going to slash and fabricate my own from donor parts. Hemi Denny talked me off the ledge and implored me to be patient. It pays to have wise friends!

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Sublime one said:
So this weekend I had a Bantam hockey tournament so time on car was limited. I did however attempt to install the P/U tube and change out the windage tray. Epic fail! When you do this conversion you have to get a different oil pan which is a center pickup vs the factory forward pickup. As the factory pan creates an impedance with the rack and pinion setup. My K frame is an HDK so I have lots of room for headers etc. very nicely built by the way. So anyway I get the factory windage tray off and make sure new one fits etc. I bolt the P/U tube in place and it is a perfect fit....... well except for the whole pointed outside the oil pan part. At this point I am thinking clearly I am an idiot and it must mount somewhere else. Nope, it is in right spot. The only conclusion is that mother Milodon had a jig malfunction during manufacture as the part numbers indicate I have the correct part. Did I mention I waited all summer for the stupid part. Being a welder my solution to everything is to slash and weld. I was so frustrated this summer over the delay I was going to slash and fabricate my own from donor parts. Hemi Denny talked me off the ledge and implored me to be patient. It pays to have wise friends!

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Looks good Sublime one, will you be ready for paint in time?
 
That sucks. I went with a Ram 5.7 pan and pickup tube. It doesn't hang crazy low but then again I haven't slid it under the car yet to get a true feeling for what the clearance will be
 
toplscuda said:
That sucks. I went with a Ram 5.7 pan and pickup tube. It doesn't hang crazy low but then again I haven't slid it under the car yet to get a true feeling for what the clearance will be
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So as always Hemi Denny to the rescue. Did I mention he has forgot more about Mopar than I will ever know. Turns out my donor car 2010 SRT is a perfect match for the P/U tube I ordered and have should be no issue at all. Wait for it......... Yep Mother Mopar in her infinite wisdom put a "pre" 2010 block in the donor car pre 09 to be exact turns out pre 09s need a different oil P/U tube then 2010 result of clocking on fittings. So I am now anxiously awaiting my third oil P/U tube.
 
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So as always Hemi Denny to the rescue. Did I mention he has forgot more about Mopar than I will ever know. Turns out my donor car 2010 SRT is a perfect match for the P/U tube I ordered and have should be no issue at all. Wait for it......... Yep Mother Mopar in her infinite wisdom put a "pre" 2010 block in the donor car pre 09 to be exact turns out pre 09s need a different oil P/U tube then 2010 result of clocking on fittings. So I am now anxiously awaiting my third oil P/U tube.
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On plus side I got the drive shaft sorted out! Finally a win! The shaft will have to be a hybrid of old and new style fittings, or so I thought. With a bit of research turns out GM utilizes exact same coupling device for their rigs and in turn created a need for an adaptor! Picture attached, takes the funky European coupling and transforms it into antiquated American U joint technology! Add a slip joint and there ya are! Coolest thing ever! It is literally a perfect fit.

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Sublime one said:
On plus side I got the drive shaft sorted out! Finally a win! The shaft will have to be a hybrid of old and new style fittings, or so I thought. With a bit of research turns out GM utilizes exact same coupling device for their rigs and in turn created a need for an adaptor! Picture attached, takes the funky European coupling and transforms it into antiquated American U joint technology! Add a slip joint and there ya are! Coolest thing ever! It is literally a perfect fit.

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That’s exactly what I used.Works perfect!

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69Dartguy said:
That’s exactly what I used.Works perfect!

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So this evening I installed the drive shaft, had to abort last night as I did not have long enough M12 bolts. 1/2 American is close but just a bit big. The German tranny yoke was quite demanding with its bolt reqs. Suffice to say it is in. Funny how a single easy part to install can really motivate you. I got all jacked up putting in the drive shaft. Who knows I might even make this thing run yet.

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Sublime one said:
So this evening I installed the drive shaft, had to abort last night as I did not have long enough M12 bolts. 1/2 American is close but just a bit big. The German tranny yoke was quite demanding with its bolt reqs. Suffice to say it is in. Funny how a single easy part to install can really motivate you. I got all jacked up putting in the drive shaft. Who knows I might even make this thing run yet.

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Well from what I have seen that you have done so far Sublime one it will work. good job my friend.
 
Sublime one said:
So this evening I installed the drive shaft, had to abort last night as I did not have long enough M12 bolts. 1/2 American is close but just a bit big. The German tranny yoke was quite demanding with its bolt reqs. Suffice to say it is in. Funny how a single easy part to install can really motivate you. I got all jacked up putting in the drive shaft. Who knows I might even make this thing run yet.

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Looking good sublime!I was really wondering what I was going to do with my driveshaft too and stumbled on the Sonnax adapter on a Chevy website.It is a nice piece and worked out great.A lot better than spending $1200 on a Driveshaftspecialty piece.Your build is coming along nicely
 
I find it hilarious you go through all this trouble to get a modern mill in there and then let it shape through cherry bombs
 
diymirage said:
I find it hilarious you go through all this trouble to get a modern mill in there and then let it shape through cherry bombs
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Hah! What can I say? I have a sentimental attachment to them! To add insult to injury I am running a HDK front end with coil overs and rack and pinion steering on wilwood disc brakes, no technology spared. The backend you ask? Why air shocks and drums of course! The boys talked me off the ledge or I would have put fender flares on her as well. I figure as easy as it is for me to change exhaust why not see how she sounds with tried and true advanced technology Cherry Bombs! I run fancy exhaust on my Scat Pack and while it sounds snarly and nasty nothing says retro like headers and cherry bombs! If you can't set off a car alarm or two on the way you have done something terribly wrong!
 
Sublime one said:
Hah! What can I say? I have a sentimental attachment to them! To add insult to injury I am running a HDK front end with coil overs and rack and pinion steering on wilwood disc brakes, no technology spared. The backend you ask? Why air shocks and drums of course! The boys talked me off the ledge or I would have put fender flares on her as well. I figure as easy as it is for me to change exhaust why not see how she sounds with tried and true advanced technology Cherry Bombs! I run fancy exhaust on my Scat Pack and while it sounds snarly and nasty nothing says retro like headers and cherry bombs! If you can't set off a car alarm or two on the way you have done something terribly wrong!
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So today I got the booster and master cylinder mounted, as well as the pedal base located on inside under dash. Some may recall the pix of me and Fred his boy took in my shop here awhile back. I am an avid gym rat and have lifted weights for 40 plus years. I am not a small guy! To fold up and work under the dash suks for me. As I could not find a yoga master dwarf I folded up and took the plunge.
As a welder we wear the funny little caps for a reason. You spin it and cover your ear with the soft bill to keep sparks out of your ear. Yep I did not spin it and got a spark down my ear. There is nothing like sizzling inside your ear. The pedals are simply to long to fit under the dash so I cut them off and will sort out final configuration at a later date. They are quite thick so as I was cutting them I smelled smoke, figured it was under dash stuff.
Turns out it was me, now picture the aforementioned biscuit sized guy in a yoga position under the dash attempting to put himself out. Instantly raised up banged head on dash, tried to spin to get fire on top and got caught on sharp edge from unfinished tunnel. Spin other way and hit the paddle switch for the grinder that was unceremoniously dropped earlier.
Got grinder shutdown before it ate me then decided to put fire out in place. Got it out. Crawled out of car, shut off music and walked away from the car. Took hound in and made a drink. Screw a bunch of hot rodding today, I am going to watch football. Picture is my ruined sweatshirt.

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Sublime one said:
So today I got the booster and master cylinder mounted, as well as the pedal base located on inside under dash. Some may recall the pix of me and Fred his boy took in my shop here awhile back. I am an avid gym rat and have lifted weights for 40 plus years. I am not a small guy! To fold up and work under the dash suks for me. As I could not find a yoga master dwarf I folded up and took the plunge.
As a welder we wear the funny little caps for a reason. You spin it and cover your ear with the soft bill to keep sparks out of your ear. Yep I did not spin it and got a spark down my ear. There is nothing like sizzling inside your ear. The pedals are simply to long to fit under the dash so I cut them off and will sort out final configuration at a later date. They are quite thick so as I was cutting them I smelled smoke, figured it was under dash stuff.
Turns out it was me, now picture the aforementioned biscuit sized guy in a yoga position under the dash attempting to put himself out. Instantly raised up banged head on dash, tried to spin to get fire on top and got caught on sharp edge from unfinished tunnel. Spin other way and hit the paddle switch for the grinder that was unceremoniously dropped earlier.
Got grinder shutdown before it ate me then decided to put fire out in place. Got it out. Crawled out of car, shut off music and walked away from the car. Took hound in and made a drink. Screw a bunch of hot rodding today, I am going to watch football. Picture is my ruined sweatshirt.

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LOL Sublime one glad you made it out alive and didn't catch Hemi on fire in the posses.
You did good today so I agree time for a Bourbon and don't forget to give Hemi a treat also.
 
So today I braved the cold and headed back into thrash on the Demon. I am running out of time to get into paint before summer. I got the dash all fabricated complete with the evil little side panels contouring to the sheetmetal. I enclosed a pix of a speciality super cheapy tool that sits in your box unloved for years. But when ya need it she is very handy. Just press into uneven surface and it gives you a transfer.

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Sublime one said:
So today I braved the cold and headed back into thrash on the Demon. I am running out of time to get into paint before summer. I got the dash all fabricated complete with the evil little side panels contouring to the sheetmetal. I enclosed a pix of a speciality super cheapy tool that sits in your box unloved for years. But when ya need it she is very handy. Just press into uneven surface and it gives you a transfer.

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Haven't seen one of those in years good idea.
Your Dakota digital cluster will look great installed.
 
Mother Milodon finally saw fit to send me what in theory is the correct P/U tube for my engine. If this one is wrong I will fabricate my own. Some folks I have read suffered with oil pan leaks utilizing the Milodon oil pans. I have several pans and have had great luck with them. I enclosed a pix of what is supposed to be correct part and a handy dandy torque sequence guide for the pan. Anyone out there just diving into this swap, please note you will need to switch from front pick up to center. This requires new pan tube and windage tray. It can be a bit confusing on what is what. Confusion on mine was result of factory utilized a different year block than the car. With Mopar some things never change. I swear they will put em together from whatever they have laying about.

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Sublime one said:
Mother Milodon finally saw fit to send me what in theory is the correct P/U tube for my engine. If this one is wrong I will fabricate my own. Some folks I have read suffered with oil pan leaks utilizing the Milodon oil pans. I have several pans and have had great luck with them. I enclosed a pix of what is supposed to be correct part and a handy dandy torque sequence guide for the pan. Anyone out there just diving into this swap, please note you will need to switch from front pick up to center. This requires new pan tube and windage tray. It can be a bit confusing on what is what. Confusion on mine was result of factory utilized a different year block than the car. With Mopar some things never change. I swear they will put em together from whatever they have laying about.

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Lots of work and not enough knowledge from Mopar but I think your smart enough to get it done. Your wiring diagram was the best and have faith you will get it done.
 
So I have clearly been negligent in my postings. Quite a bit of progress on the Demon and then again several steps backwards. With regard to progress I now have the tunnel mitered and pretty well rough tacked in. See attached picture. I am utilizing the booster and pedals from the Donor SRT which in turn creates some space issues. I have cut the pedals all off the SRT pedal block so that I can modify them to fit under the Demons dash.
Should any one want to attempt this I strongly suggest you hire a midget yoga instructor that knows how to weld. It was like having sex with an 18 year old. I just am to old to get in those under dash positions anymore. The more I had to butcher the firewall the farther I got from being ready to go to paint. Then I attacked the inner fenders, the Demon was a BB drag car with the typical headers out the fender configuration. I hand fabricated about a dozen pieces to patch said openings as a result of my confidence in my welding ability and my complete and total lack of knowledge on body work.
As I was rushing to meet paint shop appt. deadline I began to cut corners. In what was an ah hah WTF moment it dawned on me I would be forever pissed off every single time I opened the hood if I continued down present path. After several single malts of wisdom I contacted my painter and explained car would not be ready. I then hung my head in defeat and contemplated burning car in place!
Hah! Please note I am a combat Marine and as such there is simply no try, either do or do not. On plus side I made huge progress on car today as a direct result of not having pressure of paint deadline looming over my head. I am having fun again. Note to self; this is a hobby it is supposed to be fun. Let it be so! I have now decided to cut out all frame support progress etc. and remove fenders and replace inner fenders. Go head ask me what I know about inner fenders? Jack Sh**! But there are a multitude of folks on this forum that are genuine and highly skilled in areas I am not. These guys never hesitate to share knowledge with some one. FABO rocks! Pix are attached of latest progress. My apologies that this got so long winded!

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Nice work! How is the flood outlook in your area?
 
Those welding goggles look really handy. Do they slide up? I can't wait to see the Demon on the road.
 
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