**73 Scamp Mini Pro-Street Engine Swap**

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Mad Dart said:
Lol, All that stuff is a MYTH. Matter of fact most everything I have heard or read online is a MYTH regarding anything to do with what can and can't be done with these cars.

I use to run it down the FWY before the rear end swap with 3.91 gears @ 3650 RPM for 30-40 min straight. Not even letting off the throttle. It is in Happy zone. 175* Temps, 60 PSI Oil Pressure. Outside temps 95*+ , Wide Band 13.8-14.1

It is a Stroker too with a Solid Roller...... Ladder Bar & Spool. More than 700 HP on the Juice that Rev's over 7K RPM with a stock block & a 904..... None of this is possible per everything I have read and has been preached.....It should have blew up a long time ago.
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We should start calling you "the mythbuster"! lol Isn't it funny how many myths are out there? Same thing happened to me. Guys told me when I started rebuilding "You won't be able to run pump gas without pinging", "You can't drive a high stall converter like that on the street", "You can't run a spool on the street without problems. You won't be able to turn corners well, you'll break an axle, blah blah blah...". Funny, haven't seen any of those problems...yet! (knock on wood) And then when I see those guys again, they'll ask how the car is coming along. I'll say "Got it going toward the end of last year, drove it around town mostly and made it to the track once". "What'd it run?" "First pass wasn't great. Spun, let out, got back in it and ran a 12.06 or something" "Really? You let out and still ran 12's?" "Yep, next pass I eased it off the line more and ran a 10.99. That was with the street tires, timing set for 91 octane, and no carb tuning. I just took it out and ran it." "10's? Really??? Have you ever raced before?" "Nope. First time out." *dumbfounded look*. I just grin and shrug my shoulders. Cracks me up to see the look on their faces. I suppose I'm enjoying proving their theories wrong as well Louis.

Rodzilla said:
You need a cameraman on your next cruise,,,we need some video from inside/outside of your beast :)
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For reals man. I'm tempted to fly out there and bring all the recording devices I have to see this thing and make some videos!
 
Come on now.... I don't know of anyone who actually drives their old car like I do with a set up anywhere near what mine is..... When I say drive, I mean drive the wheels off of it. Not from parking lot to parking lot, waxing the POS! Lol

Chris Turbodart68 got me going on all of the "Myth Buster Stuff" , He once told me there are people that talk **** and people that actually do it!

I am happy to say I am the latter! :D
 
clinteg said:
We should start calling you "the mythbuster"! lol Isn't it funny how many myths are out there? Same thing happened to me. Guys told me when I started rebuilding "You won't be able to run pump gas without pinging", "You can't drive a high stall converter like that on the street", "You can't run a spool on the street without problems. You won't be able to turn corners well, you'll break an axle, blah blah blah...". Funny, haven't seen any of those problems...yet! (knock on wood) And then when I see those guys again, they'll ask how the car is coming along. I'll say "Got it going toward the end of last year, drove it around town mostly and made it to the track once". "What'd it run?" "First pass wasn't great. Spun, let out, got back in it and ran a 12.06 or something" "Really? You let out and still ran 12's?" "Yep, next pass I eased it off the line more and ran a 10.99. That was with the street tires, timing set for 91 octane, and no carb tuning. I just took it out and ran it." "10's? Really??? Have you ever raced before?" "Nope. First time out." *dumbfounded look*. I just grin and shrug my shoulders. Cracks me up to see the look on their faces. I suppose I'm enjoying proving their theories wrong as well Louis.



For reals man. I'm tempted to fly out there and bring all the recording devices I have to see this thing and make some videos!
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Lol! Yeah people are weird!

I am headed to Tuxies on Friday. It is an old Drive In from what I am told. Car meet and greet type of event. I have never done one before... Not the kind of guy to sit around for too long, I gotta be moving!

As far as recording devices. YES I need to get me a Go-Pro.
 
Mad Dart said:
Yeah I know I'm a wussy.

I'll put 5.56's in and haul *** to Vegas at 6k. I don't give a Fck!!
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Haha make it 6.66's you mad man.

360PLUS said:
Yep, i used to drive 75 miles from Simi to LACR with 4.88s and drive home slicked up with 10.5 psi. in the tires.
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I remember those days Joe! BTW that Duster is very happy in my garage. Thanks again!


clinteg said:
We should start calling you "the mythbuster"! lol Isn't it funny how many myths are out there? Same thing happened to me. Guys told me when I started rebuilding "You won't be able to run pump gas without pinging", "You can't drive a high stall converter like that on the street", "You can't run a spool on the street without problems. You won't be able to turn corners well, you'll break an axle, blah blah blah...". Funny, haven't seen any of those problems...yet! (knock on wood) And then when I see those guys again, they'll ask how the car is coming along. I'll say "Got it going toward the end of last year, drove it around town mostly and made it to the track once". "What'd it run?" "First pass wasn't great. Spun, let out, got back in it and ran a 12.06 or something" "Really? You let out and still ran 12's?" "Yep, next pass I eased it off the line more and ran a 10.99. That was with the street tires, timing set for 91 octane, and no carb tuning. I just took it out and ran it." "10's? Really??? Have you ever raced before?" "Nope. First time out." *dumbfounded look*. I just grin and shrug my shoulders. Cracks me up to see the look on their faces. I suppose I'm enjoying proving their theories wrong as well Louis.



For reals man. I'm tempted to fly out there and bring all the recording devices I have to see this thing and make some videos!
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Thats one hell of a first day at the track!

Mad Dart said:
Come on now.... I don't know of anyone who actually drives their old car like I do with a set up anywhere near what mine is..... When I say drive, I mean drive the wheels off of it. Not from parking lot to parking lot, waxing the POS! Lol

Chris Turbodart68 got me going on all of the "Myth Buster Stuff" , He once told me there are people that talk **** and people that actually do it!

I am happy to say I am the latter! :D
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You are! I too drive the poo out of my stuff. :burnout: Bring that weed burner up north for the Spring fling and cruise Mulholland with us on Friday.
 
I haven't been around here much at all. Been really busy with work. 3 Kids in College this coming September. Gotta get that dough!

Only thing I have done to the car is take off the 340 Stickers and the window banner.

I am building a 60 Gallon Reverse Flow Meat Smoker on my spare time. Very slow going though.

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just spent 2 hours reading this thread in full ... Love the time you have put into it ... gave me a ton of idea's how/what to do to my daily driven 73 scamp. The battle stance is great on this ... dont change it.


*cheerstoyou*
 
Zelly said:
just spent 2 hours reading this thread in full ... Love the time you have put into it ... gave me a ton of idea's how/what to do to my daily driven 73 scamp. The battle stance is great on this ... dont change it.


*cheerstoyou*
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Cool, that is what it is all about!
 
Took a good long break from here. I will be back to working on the car and upgrading it some more.

I just bought the new Fitech efi system from here.

http://fitechefi.com/default.asp.pg-Products

I picked up the Go EFI-8 Power Adder Plus. It is a self tuning unit and will support & control NOS, Timing and has a 2.5 Bar Map sensor for Boost. It will support any type of fuel. E85, Pump, Race Fuel, alcohol or moonshine. Whatever you want. Says it is good for 1200HP worth of fuel.

After I get this installed and set on e85 I will be adding a Supercharger of some sort. I found out about torqstorm from the guys at Fitech today..... They have a dual and single SC kit for Small & Big Block Mopar's.

http://torqstorm.com/index.html

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I will also be converting my NOS over to e85 as well and bringing the hit down to about 50-75 when the SC is installed. They say NOS is just about double the jetting when on Boost.
 
Mad Dart said:
Took a good long break from here. I will be back to working on the car and upgrading it some more.

I just bought the new Fitech efi system from here.

http://fitechefi.com/default.asp.pg-Products

I picked up the Go EFI-8 Power Adder Plus. It is a self tuning unit and will support & control NOS, Timing and has a 2.5 Bar Map sensor for Boost. It will support any type of fuel. E85, Pump, Race Fuel, alcohol or moonshine. Whatever you want. Says it is good for 1200HP worth of fuel.

After I get this installed and set on e85 I will be adding a Supercharger of some sort. I found out about torqstorm from the guys at Fitech today..... They have a dual and single SC kit for Small & Big Block Mopar's.

http://torqstorm.com/index.html

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I will also be converting my NOS over to e85 as well and bringing the hit down to about 50-75 when the SC is installed. They say NOS is just about double the jetting when on Boost.
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Louis, is this the twin turbo bottom end,underneath this established firepower?
 
Well I finally finished my Smoker build. Just needs to be sand blasted and painted. I built everything from scratch including the wheels. Only thing I didn't build was the compressor tank! Lol

All the Fuel line parts arrived today for the EFI Conversion. I will get after it in a few days. I can't see it taking too long to accomplish it.

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I talked to Kyle at New Era Racecraft yesterday about my goals for the Scamp.

Goal is 1000hp to the tires. He recommended a F1-X and said I will get to my goal on Pump gas with about 16-18 Psi, e85 would make it easier with more aggressive timing.

There are a few things that I most likely will do.

1) Install a motor plate so I can easily incorporate the Vac Pump and accessory's back to the car.

2) Order a new camshaft with more duration per Kyle. He said on my engine most likely he would recommend a split pattern. 260 intake -265 exhaust at 50. Lift would stay the same at about .640, he said he would probably lift the exhaust valve a bit more than the intake and it would be cut on a 114. Solid roller like I already have.

2) I will be adding an electric water pump to free up some room for an Intercooler set up of some sort. An intercooler was not part of the end result above. This would be an added feature.

3) I have a brand new AIS Water/Meth injection kit that I may incorporate into this as well.

4) The crank he said should have 2 key ways in it. Fix to this is to drill the snout for a dowel pin in the car and then I will have to order a new Dampener with the 2 keyway provision in it. Someone makes a SBM dampener with SBC Bolt pattern so that is what will happen to accept the lower accessory pulley's.

Picture of the mock up on a SBM.... I am waiting for the Dimensions to be sure this will fit under my hood. If it does not he will switch up the bracket to make it fit.


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Wow! Can't wait to see this. 1000 wheel should get you in the 8s easily. Might want to stock up on some tires while you're at it. Don't think they will last too long with that setup. Also curious to see a blow through with that type efi.
 
racerjoe said:
Wow! Can't wait to see this. 1000 wheel should get you in the 8s easily. Might want to stock up on some tires while you're at it. Don't think they will last too long with that setup. Also curious to see a blow through with that type efi.
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Lol. I don't worry about the little things like tires and fuel..... More interested in the Rush! haha

Ken @ FITech says he has a guy with a Procharger now & about 15psi on e85. Says it runs flawless. I will soon see if that is the case. I run my stuff pretty hard so if there is any Hiccups I will know right away if it can handle it or not.

One of my concerns is that I will run out of injector. If that is the case I will sell this one and go with their new MPFI when it hits the market in a few months. You can run any injector you want on their up coming new system so there will be no limit on anyones HP goals.
 
Hey Louis I'm gonna get the 1200hp fi tech system and I'm gonna try running it with a 200 shot of nos on 91 octain what do you think?
 
jimjimjimmy said:
Hey Louis I'm gonna get the 1200hp fi tech system and I'm gonna try running it with a 200 shot of nos on 91 octain what do you think?
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I would do a separate fuel system for the NOS and use VP110 in a little separate fuel cell. You can see how I did mine somewhere in this thread. 91 in the main tank is fine. That is how I have mine now.

In the instructions they recommend a separate fuel system. There is a loop wire in the EFI system that gets hooked to the NOS Trigger wire that will fine tune the A/F Ratio on the NOS Hit using the Injectors. You set the Target A/F Ratio on the NOS Hit in the set up screens. Pretty cool feature.
 
Mad Dart said:
Well I finally finished my Smoker build. Just needs to be sand blasted and painted. I built everything from scratch including the wheels. Only thing I didn't build was the compressor tank! Lol
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Great looking smoker.

I just got back from a trip to the BC coast with 150 lb of salmon, halibut, ling cod, and snapper. Planning to do some smoking. Got me a simple smoker that has temp control, an upgrade from my Big Chief. Nothing like what you have but it will do.

I also like to do old fashioned Mennonite farmer sausage. Grew up with it and there's nothing like it.
 
Mad Dart said:
I would do a separate fuel system for the NOS and use VP110 in a little separate fuel cell. You can see how I did mine somewhere in this thread. 91 in the main tank is fine. That is how I have mine now.

In the instructions they recommend a separate fuel system. There is a loop wire in the EFI system that gets hooked to the NOS Trigger wire that will fine tune the A/F Ratio on the NOS Hit using the Injectors. You set the Target A/F Ratio on the NOS Hit in the set up screens. Pretty cool feature.
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That is what I will do so one gsl 392 walbro to run the fuel injection and another 392 for the nos hit .
 
jimjimjimmy said:
That is what I will do so one gsl 392 walbro to run the fuel injection and another 392 for the nos hit .
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If you are going to use the GSL-392 for the NOS. I would use the Mallory 4307-M, they have changed the part number though to the one below. It is rock steady on Fuel Pressure and does not creep like the little chrome holley regulators. You will also have a return. I plumbed a return into my "Big End" black pump using the Holley style regulator and a -3 hose with a small Nitrous jet. It works pretty good.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/msd-29388/overview/
 
Idaho said:
Great looking smoker.

I just got back from a trip to the BC coast with 150 lb of salmon, halibut, ling cod, and snapper. Planning to do some smoking. Got me a simple smoker that has temp control, an upgrade from my Big Chief. Nothing like what you have but it will do.

I also like to do old fashioned Mennonite farmer sausage. Grew up with it and there's nothing like it.
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Gosh dang you are a lucky camper! Taste buds are flowing, haha
 
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